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AUDREY
while we chat around here, you are doing the action. Good luck at the festival!!
SIDNEY
“But, in a lot of the pictures I take, I know that ‘something’ is missing… emotional content, fluidity, ‘ephemerality’, impressionism, delicacy of mood, kinetic energy. Or all of the above.”
hmmm… Sometimes I think you are only a little shy when it comes to taking aphoto. Maybe you do not want to get in the way or disturb or … Very often I personally think you should have gotten much closer to your subject. To really capture it. AND wait for the right espression on the face! For a specific look.
How many pictures do you take from a subject before moving away? 1-3? Maybe you should go for 20-30! And then pic out the most intensive one. You should have seen DAH doing it. I am sure it would give you an AHA-Effect!!!
Sidney, from all I have witnessed here in the blog, your main “problem” in doing street photography or the like would be your politeness… Be bolder!! Stop thinking!!!
My personal opinion, of course.
:))
Just reading Patricia’s comment with the lap-photos. :))) Very good idea!!!
Maybe you should have 3 beers before the next shooting session :))
Hervé’s last comment … I think that is what I meant … only he puts it in better words.
:)
Stop thinking and get close :))
BOB, DAVID B…..
let’s go Eastern for just a moment…about editors that is…look at it from THEIR SIDE…
most are caught “between a rock and a hard place”….actually loving photographers and photographs, but having to play so many different sides just to get through the day…
almost every picture editor i know, including the ones at the very top, at one time in their life DREAMED seriously of being a photographer…
to be “out there” with the wind and the rain in their face as are you….
all of them that i know, at some point realized their strength was “inside” instead of “outside”..PUT DOWN THEIR CAMERAS…felt they could do more for photography working the “system” rather than being a “shooter”…
so, they sit at a desk and i would imagine still remember their original passions….they see YOU actually “doing it”…living their original dream…
don’t you think it is just a little hard for them sometimes to see a story that THEY have worked so hard on to see only the name of the photographer in print?? to see only all of the accolades going to the photographer they so once dreamed of being??
editors are no different than any of the people we photograph…we cut the people we photograph a lot of slack because we are “getting our picture”….
listen, i have been just as “burned” by some editors as anyone out there…but, by looking at the big picture and by walking a “mile in their shoes” you may find that you should not “take it personally”….
you should see yourself as the “lucky one” in the equation…not powerless… you are in fact EMPOWERED…
see things from their point of view and you may find they start seeing things from your point of view…
cheers, david
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Now playing: Muddy Waters – Rollin’ And Tumblin’, Part 1
via FoxyTunes
DAH :))
TOTALLY understand the plight of PE’s completely (that’s why i just wrote the 2nd note about my respect for them and their position). I don’t envy their position for a moment at all and totally know must ARE or DREAM or DREAMEd about being a photog…and so, yes, i know my diatribe seemed harsh…like i said, i have good and close relationships with some here in town (who are think are great PE’s and Great people! :)) )..
my lamentation has been that (mayb’e i’ve had poor luck too, or rather limited luck) many i’ve met often have “talked” to me like I was nobody…that’s just been my experience David…with that in mind, i thoroughly welcome to get beat up at fiesta harvey on October 3rd by all the PE;s who want to show me that photographers are the real arrogant ones ;))))))))))….
PE”s are always in the position of rock and hard wall (photographers on one side, the story idea (which IS OFTEN THE EDITOR’S IDEA and the photog gets all the credit) and the publisher/readership/advertisers/sales on the other): i know the calculus totally SUCKS big time :)))
in the end for me, it’s only about the person, not the name or the job…that in mind, i just repeat: one of the smartest persons in the biz i know is a PE and her story ideas are also more brilliant that the photogs she hires…
i hope my second rant above was more understanding :)))))…
LASSAL: :)))
write when you can and i’ll send u a post-card…and yes, we’re still strangers ;)))…(i am not as mean about PE”s in person and much more mellow in real life ;)) )…
hugs y’all
bob
DAH & ALL:
oNE last bit about Pe’s and work. I try and think that IS VERY IMPORTANT that professionalism and respect be the working mantra for everyone! Just as with EFP and Look3 last year, i have always tried to be good for my projects: get them done on time with little trouble or worry. just as with EFP and Look3, i try to get you work on time, without you or Michael doing any worry….just as i think what a PE respects above all is not ARROGANCE or Artistic attitude, but a good work ethic: do the work well, on time and be respectful.
that is how i have always behaved…and what i admire when i get treated like that by others…
it doesnt always work that way ;))
hugs
b
Lassal
I am not suprised your coffee mashine is broke…10 litres of coffee… and probably breakfast only… :)
I had too much coffee last time.
David
“to be “out there” with the wind and the rain in their face as are you….”
hmmmmmmm….. I dream about also.
must run
peace for all
ah ha – and i’m playing
one bourben, one scotch and one beer’
by john lee hooker..
‘i ain’t drunk – i’m just drinking’
too much to write now.. just had a long chat with beate about it.. editors.. the confidence game.. showing vulnerability on here and still wanting – conditioned – to hide it from the editors.. knowing where they come from .. it’s never taken personally from the editors and some of them are good photographers.. all credit to them and all they do.. especially those who do not use their powers for self inflation and ego.
here is something.. my photo editors will not be suprised by ‘decade’ but the editor in chiefs will be.. showing the whole and unvarnished truth will not suit their cause with advertisers or readers.. thats why i need to change clients.
i chatted with a writer colleague on this – now that i have retired from youth culture somewhat i can show what it’s really about.
some of my work which i’ll show would prevent them from commissioning me again – because i want to be honest.
i photograph for myself – the mag used 5 to 15 photos out of 300 to 600.. the photos i took for myself are ‘shoe-boxed’ for now.. until now.. seeing the light of day now.. and it will suprise my editor in chiefs..
the next editors i want to work with will, i hope, be interested in the photos i take for myself rather than the few formulaic ones i take to sell the mag.. will see how that pans out as the wheels on this bus go round and round, round and round.. (ad nauseum)
editors DO deserve credit and i always made sure to compliment when they did a good job.. cropping.. design.. a good cover.. and it is a shame that is the only credit they got for each piece.. but./. i planned the pieces mostly.. found the funding.. did the work.. put my landlord off the rent for this or that month.. they collected ‘idea’s’ and edited them into a whole.. and they did get their name printed high in the front of the magazine… and a fat, regular paycheck.
david – divided soul thanks all – editors foremost – and thats perfect..
lassal
yes.. it takes a long while.. a long long while.. and thought.
this year having the time to ponder the more philosophical aspects.. not worrying about commissions.. funding.. rent.. marketing.. accounts.. it needed to be done..
i’m in a cocoon and the walls of this little womb like room are pasted with memories – good and bad – while i sit and make sense from it.. from it all.. editors.. events.. lost weekends and made friends.. before coming back grown.. and beginning again.. with a headstart and wings already attached.. i am convinced the best part of my life is just begining and the best work i can produce is in the near future… learning lots here.. between the lines there is as much to learn as with ‘i like 5, 10, 15 and 23′.. thats where the gems are, i think.
beate just said
‘you have to be vulnerable on there – otherwise how will you grow?’
yes.. quite.. anyway..
ferries is one way of doing northern europe.. they are great.. to get to bergen from where i am is two long ferries.. fjords.. landslides.. fun.
welcome anytime one and all.. spare bed waiting..
teaching is just perfect.. the perfect way to break from shooting.. that or BEING AN EDITOR was what i hoped for :o)
of course contact off-forum.. people do.. i like muchas..
bob
the desk.. digital..
someone ‘gave ‘ me a canon 10d.. it’s shite.. no – it really is.. hard work to get exposures spot on.. but i love it for doodling..
and my phone..
someone gave me a nokia n73 yesterday – 3.2 million pixels pisses on the nikon D1x.. and a zeiss lens.. one of carls very own.. amazing.. learning it limitations today.. has it’s qualities though.. autofocus.. even exposure compensation.. amazing..
must be off.. may have missed a comment.. if so apologies.. no time to read through all – will do later.
time shift – you guys getting up and typing your hellos late in my day :o)
big-up’s to all…
MARCIN
black tea “diet” now … And Tony (english boyfriend) is grinning …
:))
Have a look at Iceland too.
I am planning a shoot there next year. But I know the place a little already. Magical!!!
Faroe Islands are making me curious now too. Was there not a huge music festival in summer? I remember everybody went there …
ALL…
quick announcement: one of our bloggers just contributed $5000. to the Emerging Photograhers Fund…
i will not say who now, because this generous person may want to remain anonymous, at least for the moment…this contribution will be added to the growing EPF funds contributed by individuals who BELIEVE in you and who will quite literally be helping you to finish a project….
this would seem to me to be a pretty amazing development from a little imperfect photo blog…sure makes me proud of all of you…
so much is happening………this place is “on fire” !!
running to class…
love you, david
Congratulation!
Yes David, This place is “on Fire”!
oh… I am curious who it is :)
peace
Editors … Never had “it” from a photographic point, but working for years with them in illustrations. Similar thing, that is why I dare to compare now in the sentences to follow (please feel free to skip this…). Incredible similar, only that very often they have not been illustrators before. More the other way around: illustrators who had been creative directors, etc. before :)
Up to now I thought it was very simple: they have a job = they have to deliver, and I am their problem solver. So for me to be an illustrator was always something extremely detached. I simply saw it as a service. Not an art. Thus I never experienced any problems with CDs, ADs or other kind of editors. I worked FOR them. I saw my job as to
illustrate THEIR wishes (of course with my means) They came up to me because they liked the way I solved their problems … They liked the interpretations I gave to the thoughts they had (or not). Havin a lot of experience helps you find week spots and fill out the gaps for them. I know colleagues do not agree with me here, but I always found this to be part of my job, too. A very open thing. Cards on the table. I never liked to play games and I witnessed that they usually are glad not to have to.
The magic? Not to see it as art.
:)
I could not really do this now with photography. Even without wanting to get into the art-discussion, I just have a different approach to my projects. To my PROJECTS! They have to be how I see them. Then again, I have a certain look&feel I like in photography and which I pursue. Something specific I want to have in. If any editor would like to have this look&feel for whatever assignment she/he has on the table, I would be glad to talk about it. BUT, I would NOT accept an assignment to copy photographers xyz. WHITHIN my look & feel I would be glad to experiment, as I love to experiment anyway. So here again I would play with open cards. And when it is an assignment, it is about the need of the editors or whoever they are working for. If I have a problem with these guys, then … I should not accept the assignment.
hmmm… Maybe I put this into a wrong looking dress of words now. What I mean is, that I find it very clear what the deal is. So we should look into each others eyes on the same height. No games. No lies. I demand professionalism and I think they can demand that from me too. Apart from that I do not care how the person is. I do not have to be friends with them. I did BECOME friends with a lot of people I have been working with, but it is not necessary for me to like them. I just want a professional relationship as long as the job goes on.
I guess I am not very romantic at this point. I prefer to be romantic on other occasions :)))
Hope I did not miss the question.
Wow, good news DAH!!!
You are doing a terrific job here!
Whoever donated the money: thanks so much!! This gesture is a huge one for many of us, because it shows that you believe. And I think that is what most of us want to get across.
Thank you!
DAVID
wow… good news…
(did send you mail – did u receive?)
(Sorry to innundate the blog once in a while with all my comments…
Looks terrible.
But it is the only way I manage to keep it up at the moment: hickup-wise.)
lassal
i think i get what you’re saying .. and you did not miss :o)
editors are artists.. hey, by my definition of an artists my mate hamish the accountant is one.. and you put it well.. professionalism speaks loudest of all.
regarding the DONATION
that’s just fantastic news..
WHOMEVER DONATED
i genuinely hope you get some of it back through an EPF grant or some such beautiful gesture.. complimentary *something-or-other* just for you as the world turns..
beautiful.. distribution of wealth in action.. with thoughts.
and so, more than ever, it seems that we’re feeding each other here.. without the more usual parading and posturing so common on other, lesser forums for discussion.
one generous thought.. followed with action.. will be returned..
doesn’t that just work much better than ‘the fear of god’ as a motivation for kindness?
really impressed.. if not astonished i’m sure we’re all inspired by that action
and finally..
one note on editors.. editors whos publications business model is based on people working for free..
email just received…
”Hi all,
The Antipodean monsters of rock are sweeping across the globe in a mass of wrinkles, sweat and razor sharp riffs.
I beseech you good XXXXX writers to step forth and offer your services to divulge twelve unknown facts or legends about AC/DC for our new issue.
We want the bizarre, the fantastic, the unbelievable…
So, 12 facts that runs to around 800 words total (including intro), in to me by Thursday 25th September.
Who’s up for it?
SXXXX
Editor
XXXXX Magazine”
really annoys the hell out of me.. and i’ve asked to be taken off the mailing list before.. every week there is someone, wanting something for nothing.. and every time someone helps them it spoils that client for the rest of us..
A JOB IS A JOB > > pay
http://www.chris-bradley.com/#
http://www.lightstalkers.org/karlbadohal
http://www.flickr.com/people/lawrencesumulong/
http://www.nicholasricher.com/
stalking the workshop students?
me?
nosey?
don’t be absurd.
DAVID B
yeah …. :(
You will always have this. And you will always have someone responding positively to it. As long as it is not a matter of quality (and sadly that is often the case) you will find this kind of “jobs”.
It is a matter of education, too. On both sides.
If in university they would teach the young ones to do their math correctly, you would find less people responding to it. At least here in Germany universities and academies are too often with their heads way too much up in the clouds to deal with these kind of issues, to prepare the students for what will happen after the cheerful times of “no worries”. I had huge disputes with my decan about this while I was studying. The answer was always “but the poor students have to learn so much stuff already” …
The only other thing one personally can do about it is to find an own way, a unique language and to be so good in it, that they want YOU and not just anybody.
The good thing about this approach is, that YOU are in charge of the solution. Because waiting for the system or others to change is just a big waste of time. :))
for NICHOLAS RICHER, if i stalked the right one..
http://bp0.blogger.com/_D7BO-iIFIl0/SJLQNKR0YnI/AAAAAAAAAcU/Wud2NYn9E0A/s1600-h/Untitled-5.jpg
that’s very true lassal..
there is a misguided idea that in order to ‘start out’ you have to serve clients needs for free.. and i don’t hold with that.
of course we all work without payment.. thats our thing.. and if working without payment then more reason to do what we want and not serve someone else.. because i bet come the weekend.. this editor will be spending his profit.. stuffing it up his nose.. on the back of hard work by others.
Hi All :)
Congratulations to David on the EPF funding and thank you to the donor for supporting this growing DAH blogosphere..
A hypothetical this morning:
If you were approached with the possibility of two photo assignments – one in your own country/region, and one in some far-flung location across the globe; both are equally hard-hitting and important; funding isn’t a consideration due to, on-topic, the awarding of a stipend to fund whichever project you chose.. Which one would you pick?
Would you head out across the globe and hope to make the one closer to home a personal project later?
Or throwing in the ‘starving child’ factor: Does one project take precedence over the other, either because it is close to home and should ‘matter more’.. or because the other might be in a poorer country and you feel your photos could add ‘exposure’ to a topic?
Just wondering what others think.
Yeah, you are right, David, we are working for free for OUR projects. Which we then maybe sell … as our projects. And then we should know the costs.
This is what I meant now is the difference for me between what i did before and what I am doing now. I never did my own project in illustration. It was only just assignment. And I know exactly what I am worth there, and I know exactly how long I need for a job.
I also do my math for my projects now. Like for the postcard projects … Because it is like doing an assignment for myself. I am a little crazy about numbers, I admit, I have the costs on paper. Without the hours and hours of thinking about it, though :)
For me this is a question of getting a feeling for it (which I do not have yet). How long do I take for this or that? I am someone who likes to know it to be able to plan under tight circumstances. Of course you cannot plan everything, but I like to know my parameters as well as possible.
So yeah, I am working for free for me, but I know my investments :)
ALICIA
for me it would really depend on the VERY specific projects. Cannot answer this in general.
Cheers,
Lassal
hey alicia.
i think i’d go with the one which suited my previous collection better.. keep the theme running.. i would not care where it was.. travel is work in itself.. and personal projects can easily span the globe..
knwing myself i’d probably try to fit in both..
http://www.xlr8r.com/photoblog/2006/05/triptych-outtakes-david-bowen
with the starving child factor.. i think people offer to people known for what they do.. within that remit i have always tried to help those who most need it – and in many, many more ways than just photography.. i doubt anyone would send me to photo starving children based on past work.
good idea to ask.. what would it be for you?
also – got a link for your work?
yeah … if both projects would be equally important etc.etc.etc. I would go as David did and take the one I could best integrate into my work.
lassal.
there may always be a way of gaining ‘hired eye’ work while you do your project.. in flight magazines.. tourist boards.. there are opportunities to get travels funded.. it can work out..
i’m being pulled into a routine now for the first time..
the first commission abroad i was offered was with 4 hours notice to get on the train to the airport.. frankfurt, actually.. for ‘nature one’.. and since then i’ve bearly known what day it was.. (yeps.. i have missed a number of planes.. mostly from barcelona, funnily enough :o)… until now..
with clean blood and routine i’m really getting to grips with life, love and everything.
for electronic music i decided early on that this would be a 10 year project.. i’m way over that in terms of first photoed party, (3 floors of my own house.. wreaked..) and last..
without any responsibility it was easy to focus..
DAVID B
“‘hired eye’ work”? What does that mean?
Sounds like a very special kind of life… :)
They flew me in a couple of times to work with directors in Hamburg, but that was it, actually. I never liked it too much because I did not need to be there – it was more this “being important” show kind of thing. But that never really impresses me much.
I usually sneak away after the briefing and jump into the train back in the middle of the night, to be able to work in peace and without getting high from all the joints that “lay in the air”. :)
If I stay around too long I cannot draw anymore… :))) But maybe I could take pictures?! :))
Jokes aside, I will have to check possible fundings for these travels that are coming up. It is just a completely new world and I do not quite “see” things yet. Will have to do some research.
BTW, just got postcards from Slovenia :))))!
Yeah!
Hugs, yall!
Lassal
Signing off now for at least one week! Maybe two.
Good light for all of you,
Lassal
photographing anything.. hiring out your eyes.. commercial work..
tourist boards want journo’s to visit their country and pitch to magazines..
example..
last year i wanted to go to croatia again..i asked the croatian tourist board to fund my trip.. (they have budget for 60 journalist trips from each european country, each year..)
i pitched a festival to magazines.. gained guaranteed coverage.. – 2 pages – of editorial.
now.. one page of a magazine might earn 1500usd in advertising.. so for the tourist board to fly me over to do an editorial piece it was cheaper than them buying advertising.. and better to get editorial than advertising in any case..
so i got there – do my two pages for a magazine – dj mag (15 000 readership).. for a basic fee (was 500usd).. then try for more press..
the photos ended up in the times 450 000 readership) and guardian (same as times?) newspapers in the uk.. dj magazine and xlr8r.. i-dj.. printz in germany..
the tourist board is then happy.. over a million people seeing ‘nice’ photos of croatia as a destination, not an ex-warzone (although the national parks are not entirely cleared and tourists have been killed).
i am then happy – a couple of weeks away and able to budget for a little trip into serbia to cover another event.. ++ money..
other magazines are happy.. they have a new photographer who works hard to take the stress of of them and supplies new and fresh topics.
i’m also happy because out of that trip i earn’t about 2000usd (after more than a year of selling the stock)..
all i really know is how i did it.. but there are ways..
lets think.. i am a bit ‘off the boil’ for that right now.. not done it for 7 or 8 months.. i used to use websites to research travel boards needs..
here is one..
http://www.travelwriters.co.uk/
tourist boards post via them when they are looking for specific coverage.. in any case – most tourist boards will listen to you if you have ‘guarenteed press’ for them in a national or international publication.. then what i did was satisfy the tourist boards and fill in their requirements for giving funding, and then do my own thing once that was out of the way.
it works..
it’s a lot of work.
these days i’d much rather teach and ‘pay my own way’, as and when it’s affordable.
Lassal –
I agree/can see that. It was a generalized question.
Being a little more specific, I was approached the other day about a project in Vietnam. The woman I was speaking with is an avid volunteer, but said some have asked why she finds more meaning in the work she does in Vietnam than in the projects she works on stateside. She said that while she agrees there are so many projects she can work on here, in Vietnam she feels her work/money/efforts more directly benefit people there who don’t have as many opportunities to help themselves because of the govt.
Thus my photo-based question.
And David B. –
I can see your point as well. I suppose for me, if either project had strong meaning and value, I would jump at the opportunity, regardless of how completely it fit into previous works.. and possibly try to do both if I could.. However, I have had editors comment that some of my photos feel too ‘global’ and not ‘local’ enough (having shot in places like Scotland — liked your link — Italy, and at a Hare Krishna community, albeit in New Vrindaban, W. Va).
I will share a link to photos soon. I tend to agree with whoever mentioned that sometimes their photos feel more ‘normal’ than the photos of some posting.. but I am working on a better way to share some of mine.
Running to work.
Will rejoin the blog discussion later.
~alicia
Wow …
thanks for the explanations David, and for the link. Especially for the last sentence, that puts it all in relation.
Have to think about this. Will think about this next week while on assignment.
Thanks again!!!
Lassal
/\ if you do the above for a couple of magazines, a couple of times – they will then think of you when they have a ready prepared ‘press junket’ trip.. an easy job.. and the ball is rolling..
it’s getting off the ball without falling that then becomes difficult.. again.. that can be done too :o)
DAVID (DAH):
WOW!…:)))…A very Big Heart-Hug (and lots of metta) to whoever donated to David’s fund! Your generosity is EXACTLY the type of action that is the MOST IMPORTANT and not because of the money (the cash or the amount) but because it shows a genuine concern to help others. I wish i knew you to just tell you how important that is as a gesture. As i’ve told David so many times, someday when im rich and famous ;)), i’ll support everyone!…so will do so in thought :))))…but your generosity is extraordinary and i know it will come back to you in a blessed form, whoever you are
DAVID AND ALL:
over a year ago, when David was overwhelmed with the EPF and all the fighting and some of the bad blood, i wrote him a long and passionate private letter of support just to remind him NOT to give up or give in to the demands or the frustration or the cynicism/bitterness because what David began and what ALL OF YOU continue to do was UNIQUE and emergent and important. No other blog/community (including LS, which i love and am devoted to) has done what David’s Road Trip has accomplished:
1) real friendships and relationships
2) real work, real education, real value
3) produce funding for itself and to draw the attention to others and to build photographers and photography through good will and love and support rather than rancor and competition
4) create (without the idea of sponsorship or competition) a real HOME where the full range of photographers, editors, writers, enthusiasts, pros, ams, lurkers, stalkers, lovers, warriors, whoever from around the globe could come, chat commune and HELP one another…
I told David, in a moment of doubt, that what he had begun and what the blog had accomplished was truly revolutionary, because it was begun from the bottom up and PRODUCED good work and great community and bonds…David may never have expected how large and successful and overwhelming it would become (i hope he gets rest and returns to Family Road Trip soon :)) ), but this is really due to him…
David is the captain and the spirit that guides and glues this home together. David made this possible, not because he’s a Magnum/Famous/Successful photographer but because he gives of himself tirelessly and eloquently and lovingly, even when he’s tired and pooped and grouchy ;))…it is that beacon of light that has drawn so many…last year, i told David that I believed in him and in his experiment and in the people of this blog and that i would do all i could (through writing, photography, love, metta, advice, support, whatever) to see it bloom…
but this recent largess of donation will simply help the pull of the love and dedication that glues this madness together simply grow…that kind of generosity and donation is just the kind of example that love bequeaths love and that in the end, above all, the heart gathers more wealth than the bank account…
for the anonymous donator and for David, i continue to pledge my love and effort (and stupid, long-winded posts) to make this special garden grow and harvest
what blooms is never beset by shadow for the sight of light can never be vanquished…
ya’ll are extraordinary folk and have enriched our lives immeasurably…
hugs
b
p.s. David, wouldnt PJG be so proud of you old boy, so proud and grateful to you
Great news, DAVID! And so touching that somebody believes on us and the EPF…
Personally right now I’m in the need to feel affection and care from the others so every single sign of interest makes me feel warm.
Thank you, whoever this person is.
Hugs
Ana
alicia
ahh – i see..
hmm..
i’d go with my heart, wherever it lay.
in Detroit i understand that there are many thousands of people living without water.. due to privatization and high costs..
nachtwey photographed chain-gangs and that was shown in context with other countries.. ron haviv has a project on LA gangs over at the VII website right now..
actually – beate was at her amnesty international meeting last night and came home to tell me they are focusing more and more on the u.s. (is that where you’re coming from?)
social injustice is everywhere.. even here in norway.. and there is always lots to do everywhere.. sometimes it’s hardest to see it close to home..
a trip to vietnam would be good, whatever the subject matter
a colleague is just back from india on a ‘press-junket’ to highlight the work of a charity serving slum-dwellers.. all she now writes about is social injustice, home and abroad.. and i know that for her the destination was irrelevant.. actually – she’s an amazing journalist.. working hard to publicize the breakup and redevelopment of englands northern cities.. a terrible state of afffairs really.
*** DAVID ALAN HARVEY ***
above – i’m talking about ciara leeming – who you kindly pointed towards DAM.. she is now in israel.. west bank.. and is going to a gig with DAM during the month she’s there..
i posted their address a thread or two ago for you and assume you picked it up.. if not, just holla.
DAVID B.
Thanks a lot for your long post. It gives me more confidence. You’re right: I’m writing a mail to the teacher of the company, and ‘wait and see’ ;-) thanks again
Your photo is great ;-) i stopped smoking since 1 year, but cigarettes were really photogenic ;-)
LASSAL
I understand that Meaning is a ‘tricky thing’. It sounds like THE PROJECT of your life, and of course, it can only be interesting. And make me wondering:’what is my project?’.
The other thing that make me jealous :-) is when you say that you’ve seen the pictures in your mind, before everything, it’s like a sort of ‘light’? Lucky Lassal…good luck and never give up this (lifetime?) project.
Thanks for looking my website. Maybe you haven’t seen my last posts, so the back photos were because of missing authorizations. You can see a largest editing there:
http://jnss.x10hosting.com/dah.html
then go to ‘Dancers #2′.
THE PERSON WHO MAKES THE GIFT
Thank you very much for the help and confidence you have in this community and EPF.
Cheers
ANA
“Personally right now I’m in the need to feel affection and care from the others so every single sign of interest makes me feel warm.”
everything ok with you?
(I have to work now – feel free to mail me directly, ok?!)
Please DO SO!!!
A big hug,
Lassal
and.. WHAT BOB SAID..
competition and rancor? that must have been horrible.. thanks for keeping the faith..
i’ve been a forum whore today.. going now.. washing up.. wet clothes to hang.. not a sniff of fishing for a week..
tomorrow.. tomorrow.. they’ll bite, they will.
Ana
Saludos
Hello David,
Hi all,
This is my first post and I think that it’s the perfect time for it, as I’d like to congratulate the generous contributor to the EPF. Great!
After reading/hearing too much (?) about how the “photography world” is in a very tough place, it’s great to see that some out there still firmly believe that it’s about finding new paths, about “being out there”, about teaching and sharing views, about believing!
Often as I read this forum and its interesting discussions (btw, waw!), I find myself in a pretty good mood, thanks to the positive, direct, funny and generous/friendly posts… No wonder generosity flows !
Again, thanks.
I’m in NYC now, so I’ll head out in the city!
All the best,
Tanguy.
ANA
Dear one, I am enfolding you in a big warm hug right now
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((*))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Hope whatever is not feeling in balance will soon right itself so you can again take to the sky and soar…..
TO OUR ANONYMOUS DONOR
Your generosity of spirit is evidence of what makes this community not virtual but real, so very REAL. Thank you for believing in us, in what David is doing here, in the responsibility each of us has to mentor and support our sisters and brothers who are spreading their creative wings but need a hand so they can rise above the gravitational pull of earth’s demands which often involve issues of $$.
DAVID
At this stage of my life, I am fortunate not to need additional funds to pursue my creative projects, so I ask that you not consider me for the Emerging Photographers Fund. There are so many here on the blog whose work deserves to be funded. I will celebrate where these funds will allow them to go, artistically, geographically and personally. Thank you for envisioning the EPF and for daring to make it a reality for two wonderful years…
Patricia
Katharina, about “face” in Asia and wetern women, you ask why I experienced them more frustrated dealing with it. Not an opinion, just a supputation:
Western women are a lot more independant than asian women vis-a-vis social dos and don’ts. They are extremely sensitive (so am I, but I’d feel it more personally if I was a woman) to the unfairness of women being discriminated and not having the direct outlets to express their grievances and effect change. Because of “face” (who you are, what you feel, want, etc… must kow-tow to how you behave, roles and facade are paramount, an ingrained notion).
So, I suppute that experiencing “sisters” mired in ingrained, interiorized notions of facade and make-believe (the worse kind of victimization in feminist terms) on a daily basis may take its toll.
Also the fact that western women will not behave so (something we western men do not have think about once, since we “dominate”), and may even act as if in the West, assertively (very bad behaviour), which in return closes doors, provoke misunderstandings, and breaks the good balance between ying and yang, the “good functionning of things”, ie. the ULTIMATE SIN! (until asians go beserk from too much facade and kill thousands and more of their own…Nobody’s perfect!)
Just a thought.
quick thought
I think winner of EPF is a woman, I have my choose but I’ll be quiet :)
Women rule here!
Sorry guys :)
Panos you will say nothing this year? ha ha ha
ok. peace for all and big hug for our big guy :)
Marcin,
yeah im “hungry”…
but i dont think im gonna “bite” this time..
peace
( but dont forget… again its not about a “Winner”…
its not about the prize..its not only one prize either…
did you read ? another $5K just stepped in… so its a FLOW..
its a continuity… its more like LENDING money to an artist..
“timing-wise”… when the artist needs it most…
but please see beyond money or PRIDE or inflated EGOS…
Even if someone gets a fund today doesnt make that
“someone” an “INSTANT” DAH, or an instant magnum photog…)
Actually after the date you going to “receive” that stipend…
that will be the day that YOUR real responsibilities BEGIN…
towards us and the whole world of photography…
so receiving a stipend it might actually turn your life into more work, more stress,
[...more money , more problems..]… as B.I.G, or Biggie
once said…
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Qaeky3dGSuU
Lassal,
what can i say about your spirit…?
you are making this blog very precious and important…!
without you, We are Nothing…
peace all
( & David B, i enjoy posts you lately . MUCHO INFO…..)
Marcin said:
Panos you will say nothing this year? ha ha ha
Well, good idea… let me say SOMETHING NOW… though
BEFORE we have an actual name…ok?
ok… you got the RESPECT , recognition and some dough…
you playing with big dogs now… great…
you got YOUR 15MINUTES OF FAME…
great , again,…
now, SHUT UP, take your camera and go shows us that your
success wasnt an accident… you are not DAH, or KOUDELKA,
sorry ,but not yet…
so FUCK YOU… and prove to us that you REALLY REALLY
WORTH IT … BITCH… ( we are watching you… ),
but honestly, at least for now you got my respect also…
Hats off… to YOU,
CONGRATULATION…
So, Marcin, i dont want you to wait … ha ha…
that is my speech for the WHOEVER stipend receiver…
( and again, i have a feeling that DAH will “reward”
more than ONE person this time or this season…
(…and again, what do i know )
TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THE LOVIN;
y’ALL saw this at A Photo Editor: Job Opening(s) for photographers…look read here…maybe this might be good for some of y’all:
http://aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/
cheers
b
ok, to spread the loving some more! :))0
just read this at A Photo Editor: job opening for photograph(s), $45,000 + travel…maybe this will help someone here :)))
read:
http://aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/
hugs
bob
on competition and ‘prize’..
i never entered a competition before the self portrait thing.. i think because every commission has felt like winning something.
the hard work spent towards publishing of work and earning probably has better odds than a competition.
i’ve no idea who will be favored and i’m happy for anyone to be helped..
there’s more going on here than money..
remember all – if you have a good idea you will find the money.. hoping too much on a grant needs something about eggs in one basket to be said..
if you want it, then it will happen regardless.. if you really want it, work for it and are honest with yourself about that then no grant, agency, publication or time contraint will stop you – you’ll do it..
cause one thing for certain – it’s never been cheaper to shoot and shoot and shoot and shoot.. … and on.
.
stipend.. the money is nothing.. if you want to do an idea the money will come.. no matter how poor you are now..
the money is nothing.
money is nothing..
relationships.. relationship.. now that’s something.
PANOS!! LOL!!!
Getting ready to go downtown and shoot right now, and YOUR post made me STOP and TALK….
you know we will REMEMBER your speech for whoever the worthy recipients are…I am saving quotes from here just for that kind of time!
but it’s ok I’ve lingered, the light will be getting better in a bit anyway….
ciao all