Big Al – Conversation

Alec Soth photographed in San Antonio , Texas by Panos Skoulidas , April 6, 2011


On Apr 6, 2011, at 3:04 PM, David Alan Harvey wrote: 

many thanks for the transcribe anna…pictures? d


On 4/6/11 2:49 PM, anna maria barry-jester wrote:

Here you go…
There seems to be a little missing in the middle of the interview…I think a sentence cut off between clips you sent me…you should be able to fill it in very easily from the original file….I noted in bold where I think something is missing below.

Here’s the transcript of the Soth interview….this is unedited…this is a FOR REAL CONVERSATION

DAH – Alec Soth Interview

Nat sound (ringing)

DAH: Let me start with the most recent thing that I found out about, and that is Big Al’s printing. The thing that’s always fascinated me about you, other than your photography which of course is how I knew you in the beginning, is your versatility. I mean I knew your work only with Mississippi of course, Sleeping by the Mississippi, before having met you in person. And then very quickly you became a very popular blog person and you’re involved in a lot of stuff- soft industries as I like to call it. And then we’ve got Big Al’s printing. Tell me about this multiplicity of ventures for you, besides your photography.

ALEC SOTH: Well first of all, I mean, I’m talking to you from Minnesota, and I have this sort of midwestern sensibility in which I think everything is always going to come to an end, and I’m gonna fail. And I feel a need for job security. So the most secure thing has been diversifying everything so I don’t have all my eggs in one basket. So that’s where Big Al’s comes in. But I’ll tell you what led up to that is that I was in Alex Majoli’s place in Italy, and he’s got this set up where he’s got a studio, and then there’s this Chesura lab, which is this group of people that use his equipment, but have their own little printing operation as well as all sorts of other stuff that they do. And I thought that was really fantastic, and so I came back home, and I thought, this has always been an issue, where we have all of this stuff, all of this equipment, um, but it just sits there a lot of the time when I’m not using it, so it just seemed like it makes sense. I mean, the people who work for me use it, but why not have them expand that and let other people, charge other people to use it, you know, make a little bit of money. But also there’s this one guy, his name’s Eric, who wanted to do some work with me or whatever, so he can run that thing, it’s not really my business, I’m not that involved with it, a little bit involved with it, but it just made sense. But I’m not like Mr. entrepreneur, you know.

DAH : Well, you’ve definitely diversified, and of course I’m going to copy you on every single thing. Of course I’ve hated every minute of copying you.

ALEC: But that’s what it is, I’m copying Alex. (laughter)

DAH: I know, I know, he’s got an empire there. But it’s a very interesting model for all of us. So you’re main person I guess who was your printer for your shows ended up sort of creating his business through Big Al’s operation.

ALEC: …A little bit, we had a printer that worked up to a certain size, and then we had to outsource a bigger size. and so, at a certain point, it’s just like “I’m going to buy that printer, it doesn’t make any more sense.” But if i’m going to buy the printer we might as well use it, you know, that kind of stuff.
But the thing is, it was being exposed to Majoli’s way of doing things, which isn’t for me, I mean, I’m not gonna have…it’s like a commune out there. You know, they’re all sleeping in rooms above the studio, I don’t want to do that. I just want to pool our resources. I mean, that’s what it’s about, and when you talk about Magnum, that’s what it’s about. It’s pooling resources.

DAH: Right, is that the modus operandi for Little Brown Mushroom as well, is that the same kind of thing?

ALEC: That’s a little bit different. I mean, Little Brown Mushroom is about having fun. So, and, Big Al’s is, well, who knows what it is, it’s about we’ve got some equipment lets use it. Little Brown Mushroom is about having fun, and making cool things. And it’s not about the art world, it’s not about getting caught up in that, it’s not about trying to make money, and if it makes money fine, if not that’s ok, you know, I just want to break even ideally. But it’s about that spirit of when you’re a teenager and you’re just making stuff because you love it. It’s just remembering that feeling you know. When you get caught up in the professionalism of everything, you can forget about it.

DAH: Oh yeah, it ruins everything, right?

ALEC: Well, it’s a danger, and that’s what I would say about the blog. You know, I started the blog as a retreat from the art world, as a place to just talk about issues, and then all of a sudden it turned into another business, and so I dropped it. Little Brown Mushroom hasn’t yet, it’s still, it’s like we’re just having a lot of fun with it.

DAH: Yeah, it looks like it. Yeah, it’s great. Who did the design work, did you do that or did you have a designer do that?

ALEC: It started off, I mean, I don’t know anything about design. You know, I don’t know cmyk from… I’m an RGB, photoshop, that’s all I know. But I wanted to make little things, so I just started making little zines. you know, the kind of thing where you go to Kinkos, you know, staple-bound little things. And then one thing led to another and I met a designer named Hans Sieger, who lives in Wisconsin, and uh, it all kind of came together in my head. Little Golden Books was something I was interested in, do you remember those children books? They were published out of Wisconsin, and it just felt like something that was meant to be. And so here’s this really cool designer, who happens to live there, you know, he does most of his work in New York, really high end, but he lives in Wisconsin. And here’s Little Golden Books, and merging these ideas. And he works unpaid, he just works just for the fun of it too, he’s just into it, and so we collaborate on it, we print it in Wisconsin which is great. It’s a little cottage industry.

DAH: Yeah, well, that really is cool. That’s interesting. You say that you’re, that this was one of the things, Big Al’s, and then just your mentality in general is kind of a midwestern job security thing, which you know, I understand that. And the other thing is just to have fun and a little bit of an escape from the art world. On the other hand, you’ve busted your ass to make it in the art world. So is it just because…you don’t really want to escape the art world do you? I mean, isn’t that your mainstay?

ALEC: Yeah, that’s how i make a living. Um, it’s not that I want to escape the art world, but I have to keep it fresh, and it’s kind of like, uh, to use a music analogy, it’s like. Ok. Maybe I’m not playing arenas now, but I’m playing big venues. And sometimes you have to just go down to the club, and just play, and play some new stuff for a real audience. That’s what I mean, it’s just like keeping it fresh, you know, and also keeping the experimentalism alive so that you can try things. So maybe you can screw up at the little club with 30 people, it’s not that big of a deal.

DAH: Yeah, everybody loves the garage band. The garage band stage of anybody’s career is THE stage.

ALEC: Absolutely, right. Its just keeping some of that alive is all.

DAH: I understand that completely. That’s a pretty good analogy.

ALEC: You know, I want to play arenas, I mean, don’t get me wrong I want the big audience still, I just want to keep it fresh.

DAH: Now, you’re in the art world, you’re selling prints, you played the arenas so to speak. At the same time, you’re doing some editorial work. That certainly isn’t for the money, that editorial work. So is that just part of the fun thing? Or keeping yourself fresh? Or where does that come in? That’s more of the, why would you be in Magnum in the first place since you’re so successful in the art world?

ALEC: (audio missing between clips???) one iota. And if you think about what that collective artist could be, it’s gigantic. The thing is, I started big al’s last week, and I email some people or whatever and it goes around the little blogosphere. But I ask Magnum to put it on their facebook, and to do a tweet about it, and that’s a lot of people. And, we can access just a much larger audience as a group.

DAH: So distribution is still important, it’s just a different kind of distribution. It’s a twitter, facebook fanclub thing. Plus we bring our own audiences in there too.

ALEC: Yeah, absolutely. And bringing our own audiences into that is something that we haven’t really done, or figured out how to do. Um, but we’re working towards it.

DAH: Yeah, well, that’s what you and I are supposed to do. We’re on the committee. I’m a little bit out of the loop. I saw the note from Jonas this morning, but it’s the first time I’ve heard from him, so. There are a lot of reasons for that. I do wish we were a little more coordinated with those kinds of ideas and thinking, cause I think that if we actually really did get you and jonas and chris and I in the same room, even for a short time, we might be able to come up with a bunch of good ideas that could push us forward. Unfortunately we don’t really have the mechanism for that because we’re all out in different places all the time. That’s the bad part about Magnum. The good part is that when we’re together there’s magic often times. But then we go off in separate directions, it’s very hard for us to stay coordinated.

ALEC: For me, I mean, and I talked about this, I don’t know what’s
(rambling about what part of this conversation will be used)

ALEC: This is a real taboo, but it’s something I wanted to talk about…it’s the club element of it. And I hate the word club, but, I think it’s a significant part of what it is for people. You have this brand, you’re attached to this thing, and these other people, and I think so much of the business stuff, which actually doesn’t work, just gets in the way of all that.

ALEC: The retreat was really successful. And it was like, wow.

DAH: Well, I can see, I mean I couldn’t even be there but I was all over that psychologically from the very beginning because I thought, if I can have the Magnum crowd down here like where I’m sitting right now. I mean, I’ve got dunes, I’ve got water, and I’ve got a great front porch. I’ll just show you (sounds of david picking up computer and walking away). This is where I want to hang out with you guys. I’d like to invite a bunch of you down here, you know (sound of creeky screen door opening), and uh sit on my porch right, and look out at the sand dunes over there.
(sound too faint to hear). I would love it if you guys were sitting down here by the fire, and it would be a great meeting of the minds. The truth is that when I do meet Magnum photographers, like one on one, and on assignment, we really do have a lot of good stuff in common, and I’m sure you found that out on the retreat.

ALEC: The business stuff comes out of it too. I mean, like I said, just going to Majoli’s place, suddenly Al’s opens up 3 weeks later just from that experience. And it’s that kind of pooling of resources, which we don’t even have time for, and that’s how the retreat came about is my frustration that the AGM (??), at least for the younger generation, cause we used to not have to be involved, and now we have to be involved, and it’s just ruined it, where we don’t get to hang out.

DAH: It’s a slug, you never get to go out and just have a beer, and somehow you don’t even end up talking about the business stuff. You end up getting into spreadsheets instead of the business, and there’s a difference. Now listen, I know you have to go, and I think we probably have enough…
…wait, but I have to show you my window, just to see where you don’t want to visit. Let’s see if we can get the exposure right (laughing).

ALEC: I have this feeling that Magnum’s just going to turn into BURN.

DAH; No! I don’t mean…

ALEC: No, I mean it in a good way.

DAH: No, to be honest with you, what I really really want to do is probably quit burn in June, or have it evolve into something else, or have somebody else run it or,

ALEC: I know what you mean, but it’s just that the spirit of it, it’s just like funding Paolo’s thing..No, but it’s just like, that’s the kind of energy that we so badly need.

DAH: I know it, but the thing is what I don’t want to do, and I’m sure that you of all people can totally appreciate this, I don’t want to get so involved in minutia and local politics that it just burns up all of the energy. There’s x amount of stuff that we’ve all gotta do in our lives, we’ve all gotta pay taxes, you need to get your kids off to school, you need to fix the garage door. We’ve already got lots of stuff. And I can’t take on a whole other thing with Magnum beyond a certain point. Anyway, many thanks amigo..

Postcards from America

Little Brown Mushroom

Big Al’s

Alec Soth


423 Responses to “Big Al – Conversation”

  • Harry Crew has a tattoo on his right arm that says…
    “How do you like your blue eyed boy Mr. Death”
    beneath a skull…
    extracted from e.e. cummings poem “Buffalo Bill’s.”

  • Ha, on sober morning reflection, changed my mind and removed the photo. Gotta look quick sometimes…

  • mw
    Hey, what better photo on Burn?

  • Paul Treacy

    I just spent some time viewing your galleries. I like what you do.
    Wonderful kid stuff in particular.

  • Gordon, sorry, don’t understand your question?

  • MW…

    Just guessing but, beautiful nude with flames. What better photo for Burn? ;^}

    Great shot btw.

  • Jeff…
    I don’t know if I’ve got the gist of what you’re saying (haven’t seen the video yet away from home on mobile) but I’m convinced many artists cannot ”cage” their creative process because they probably stumbled over this personal process which works for them…they don’t know how or why and have no desire to analyze it accurately as they are in fear of losing it. They just know how to summon it and ride the wave, their unique inspiration whilst it’s there. It’s not something they can tame, only follow.

  • Harry Crews was the eminence grise of the writing program at the University of Florida when I was there. At the time, he was recovering from a punch-up in a bar and had a detached retina. He didn’t remember the circumstances. As you can see in the video, he’s quite quotable and an obvious cult figure for young writers (and by extension, other creative types like photographers).

    My favorite bit of literary advice he would offer when the student’s story was flailing into boredom and predictability — “Put a midget in it.”

  • mw..what michael K said.


    Some recent pictures with my sweet now 81 year old mom and my little brother Bob. We did a short road trip together last month. It’s the first time just the three of us have spent a little time together. We told stories of old times, talked about life, sang along to the Sons of the Pioneers “ghost riders in the sky”, and laughed a lot. It was wonderful. Love my ma and my bro, love my life.

  • Ah, I figured only the Europeans would have seen it. You all most either stay up late or get up early. Or as is the case with me, both.

  • Magnum Foundation: 2011 Young Photographer in the Caucasus Award

    For those living in the Caucasus, deadline June 15th, 2011

  • a civilian-mass audience

    My apologies BURNIANS…situations at home keeps me out of the BURNING tent…

    I have an assignment for all of YOU…”LOVE MY MOM”
    idea came from MY GORDON(love your life)…credit where credit is due!

    you can submit photo of your mom,your grandmom…(if they are both “upstairs”
    submit a photo of any mom…)
    take your time…due date “Mother’s day”!
    have fun …be You!

    P.S…I hope MR.HARVEY won’t read this post…hii…:)shhh:)

  • Boarding in 15 minutes.. Arriving in LA around 3pm…
    I’ll be away from laptop till Monday although the phone is more than enough..
    So DavidB yes, skype after Monday for sure..
    In the meantime I enjoy the Fuji talk and waiting for Obama (live in airport TV) speech
    regarding social security..
    Actually Obama just started his speech..
    Let’s see what he is going to say although I suspect another fancy blah blah .. Etc..
    I’ll check on all comments .. after I land to the Silicon-Landia

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    Safe travels PANOS…
    safe travels BURNIANS

    where is the MW…nude with flames…hmmm???
    I can’t step away from my desk for a day…and you find time to post BURNING links…!

  • Best thing about the Fuji X100… and the enthusiasm surrounding it:

    Other manufacturers will have little choice but to compete in that market. More GF1/X100 types to come… and “full-frame” will be offered as well. This is what I am looking forward to. So thanks Fuji (and Gordon and Paul T, and everyone else talking this bad boy up!) because I just know something to my liking is just around the corner! (I hope, anyway.)

  • Eva…
    I’m curious to hear about your Ernesto Bazan meeting…was it a workshop?

  • Some great news from Anton on his website

    hope you don’t mind me spreading the good news Anton.


  • Michael Kircher,
    Nikon and Canon have said that they have no plans for a non-mirror camera but you have to wonder what they look at considering the buzz about the X100. Photographers are sick of carrying big, heavy DSLS – can someone please make a digital rangefinder with a Leica lens mount to a) compete with the M9 and b) shock Leica into re-designing the pokey M viewfinder!


  • Mike R…

    My guess is folks like us are not a big enough market for N & C. Their numbers must suggest to them it’s a losing situation to do something like Leica or Fuji. Of course, I’ve no brand loyalty. If any manufacturer made a relatively affordable M9-like camera, I’d jump all over it. I still love my DSLRs, of course, but hey a quality walk-around that meets my specs? Don’t care who creates it!

  • Paul…

    No, not a workshop (he does have one starting Saturday lasting over Easter in Sicily, which I cannot attend though).. Ernesto is in Verona printing his book this week. You know what I think about books, so when he told me I could attend the making of, I could not skip that opportunity.

    Besides being an amazing photographer, he’s also an amazing person. I could not imagine two personalities more different than DAH and EB, apparentely, but they both share the same intense passion for photography, and they both deeply care about their students, share their knowledge.. with Ernesto being much tougher to please (picture wise)!

  • Michael Webster –

    I’ve been thinking about what you wrote: “I was mainly there for the free buckets of gin, but after the fourth Martini or so, the people started looking interesting so I took a few photos. Kinda shows how I have it backwards from most people, that I have to be drunk before I find wealthy, beautiful people interesting.”

    I find that after I’ve had a couple, I sometimes notice details that I missed before. Your comment made me think of a Malcolm Gladwell article in which he writes of the effect of alcohol in increased awareness (excerpt below):

    “Steele and his colleague Robert Josephs’s explanation is that we’ve misread the effects of alcohol on the brain. Its principal effect is to narrow our emotional and mental field of vision. It causes, they write, “a state of shortsightedness in which superficially understood, immediate aspects of experience have a disproportionate influence on behavior and emotion.”

    Alcohol makes the thing in the foreground even more salient and the thing in the background disappear. That’s why drinking makes you think you are attractive when the world thinks otherwise: the alcohol removes the little constraining voice from the outside world that normally keeps our self-assessments in check. Drinking relaxes the man watching football because the game is front and center, and alcohol makes every secondary consideration fade away. But in a quiet bar his problems are front and center—and every potentially comforting or mitigating thought recedes. Drunkenness is not disinhibition. Drunkenness is myopia.

    Myopia theory changes how we understand drunkenness. Disinhibition suggests that the drinker is increasingly insensitive to his environment—that he is in the grip of an autonomous physiological process. Myopia theory, on the contrary, says that the drinker is, in some respects, increasingly sensitive to his environment: he is at the mercy of whatever is in front of him.”

    (Link to full article: )

    Regardless, buckets of free gin is always a win in my book!

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    What not to ANTON!
    Thank you MIKER…spread the news.I am a proud civilian…

    ok,after a brief research…I am switching back to red wine…
    one glass (full )of red wine next to my beans,roasted chicken,salad (full)with olive oil and olives
    will make my heart BURNING longer…

    P.S…keep shooting BURNIANS…one hand holding the camera,the other one …a glass of red wine.
    (don’t over do it though…cause I know you,you tend to over do stuff:))))

  • Congratulations Anton…;)

  • Justin…

    I owe you an Email I’ll try and stop for awhile tonight! Spending most of days trying to fix my injury :)

  • Mike R and Michael Kircher…
    There existed or exists an alpha prototype digital rangefinder built by one of the big two which was shelved because of the global crisis and some say it was Leica who begged them not to build it and the Japanese company acquiesced because Leica is revered in Japan.

  • John Gladdy…

    Brilliant Harry Crews video…
    I’m going to have to transcribe this and translate it into Spanish for my pupils…that is the real deal, that guy is so authentic. There is no way one can’t feel inspired by those words and if so you’ve got water running through your veins.
    It made me stop and think what are my photos are about…

  • “The reading public bothers me, though. They don’t want to read about the blood and bones and guts of an issue. They want to read about something they’re not going to have to think about, and if it does hurt them, as say “Love Story” does, it won’t last very long. What has happened in this country is a failure of the imagination.”
    Harry Crews.

  • “But I remained convinced in my belief that all anybody needed to develop as a writer was access to a good library and the willingness to play fast and loose with his life, because make no mistake about it, by the time a person even moderately masters any art form, it is almost too late to do anything else.”
    Harry Crews.
    Well we’ve got the Burn library…
    and yes we have the willingness to play fast and loose with our lives…
    We have no excuses left…

  • Paul, where did you read that? I can’t ever imagine a company not releasing a product because a rival company asks them not to. Japan does have a healthy film photography community and Leica are well represented: check out Tokyo Camera Style at this link

    and look in the archives section.

    I shoot Leica film and keep looking at the M9 but it’s really not worth the money. I still might buy one though!



  • Burnians in the Atlanta, GA area take note:

    Conversation with Martin Parr at 7pm April 14
    at the High Museum

  • Mike R…

    Smiling…I knew I shouldn’t of ever posted this, I’ve been wanting to post this so many times but I hate things that I can’t prove with facts, but anyway…
    My best friend he swears he met a guy whilst on holiday who was testing some new dslr for one of the big ones…he tried his best to see the dslr but no chance. Anyway the guy was friendly and they spoke a couple of times about photography in the hotel bar after dinner …he admitted he worked sometimes testing cameras. My friend is a Leica fanatic and somehow the guy admits he just finished testing last year a digital rangefinder for N or C and doesn’t care mentioning it because for some reason they’ve scrapped it. He said he had no idea why and thought it was an astounding camera… This conversation was about 3 4 or 5 years ago, I seriously can’t remember…I’ve been 17 months on crutches and time just flies.
    My best friend is not one for making up stories. But anyway the other guy, who knows what’s true or not?
    Anyway enough of this crap I hate talking about something I can’t prove and could be a hoax…I should of written “There is a rumour that existed or exists an alpha prototype digital rangefinder…”
    Mike just buy the M9 I’m sure you’ll love it :)

  • Paul:

    The 12 Stages of the Cross procession has finally been released for this year’s event in Toronto:

    It’ll be well attended – especially by the Italian and Portuguese faithful – and I’ll be shooting a couple of rolls to cover it for a workshop assignment. I hope you’ve found something similar for your project.

    Yes, I understand what you’re saying about Crews and others who find their voice and are happy with it. But I also enjoy witnessing the evolution of an artist’s journey, which admittedly doesn’t happen for all. Some photographers are known for a particular style…and others are known for the way in which their style has grown. Both are worthy of appreciation.

  • Jeff…

    I’m mentally preparing myself for next Thursday, starts at 19:00 and ends any time after midnight…still not sure if I’ll be using film or digital! Exactly the same camera the Eos 1vhs and the DsII… I’ll probably go the safe and cheap way and use digital. I know it sounds boring but I just don’t want screw it up, but knowing me I’ll probably take 10 rolls T-max3200 and the 1Vhs…
    This is the very famous gypsy procession in Granada, although in my area they are much more restrained and subdued…
    It is quite an experience even if you aren’t religious. The intensity of the whole situation is astounding, mesmerizing like all things of real faith. I’d love to hear DAH’s thoughts on the whole subject because he does seem to have done quite a lot of work on this subject.

  • Jeff…
    I also enjoy studying or witnessing the evolution of an artist. They don’t seem so daunting and you realize they struggle like the rest of us!
    BTW here is an example of faith…

  • …buckets of free gin is always a win…

    Yes, that’s what I learned in J-School. Important line in the artist’s credo as well.

    Thanks Justin, interesting insights. I think there’s a lot of truth in the direction of myopia theory as you describe it. But I’m not so sure about “superficially” part of the line “a state of shortsightedness in which superficially understood, immediate aspects of experience have a disproportionate influence on behavior and emotion.” Of course it’s not one way all the time, but often alcohol and the myopia that it brings opens a window, or maybe a shines a shaft of light into deeper understanding of a subject. And on a good day that translates into how to photograph that subject in a way that captures something beyond the superficial.

    And if you think about it, even the classic example probably contains more good truth than bad. To quote a favorite song by Ernest Tubbs from my childhood:

    “She’s looking better by the minute well I don’t know what’s in it
    That makes the drink turn a poor boy’s head
    She’s not much to look at a little old and a little fat
    But I’ll hang around and have a beer or two
    For I know if I’ll drink enough she won’t look quite so rough
    Now in the darkness of this bar she looks like a movie star
    That goes to show how wrong the guy can be
    I guess I’d better pick her up fore I start to sober up
    We’ll have a ball this movie star and me”

    Cause, you know, she probably is genuinely beautiful, just not in a movie star kinda way… Isn’t that a lot of what we do?

  • “Alcohol may be man’s worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy.”
    Frank Sinatra

  • a civilian-mass audience

    can I sing now?

  • a civilian-mass audience

    you BURNIAN artists…you are like my eggs…
    and like JEFF and PAUL and …many others…”I also enjoy studying or witnessing the evolution of an artist.”…or of an egg…hmmm:)!!

  • Paul, no worries; let’s hope someone brings out a little rangefinder competition. After the X100 going viral surely some camera manufacturer will notice – and good shooting (and light) next Thursday.

    I like the Frank Sinatra quote.


  • Civi

    My son Brian loves his “wine-juice”, alcoholic cider. He knows his limit however and only has one.

    I on the other hand, have a hard time finding the “off” switch once I’ve had a couple of glasses of wine. It is a problem. I’ve not had a any for a couple of days now.

    I do have to admit that I often make great photographs after a few glasses of wine, it does loosen me up.

  • Has anyone found the second part of the Harry Crews interview? I’ve been searching and it’s out there the problem is it is always private.
    Well I hardly drink any alcohol…Always a can beer on Saturday night and that is it. Why? I know very well my weaknesses, I’ve got enough on my plate as it is! I know damn well it would turn into a problem in my case…only saturdays special parties and of course if I’m ever invited to the Kibutz :) Apart from the fact if one wants to run 10km under 40 minutes it’s a no, no.

  • Paul; I’ve hunted high and low for it but have never tracked it down. My first Harry Crews book arrived a few weeks ago; I just haven’t had the chance to get stuck into it yet.

    Harry Crews from “Searching for the Wrong-eyed Jesus”

  • “There existed or exists an alpha prototype digital rangefinder built by one of the big two which was shelved because of the global crisis and some say it was Leica who begged them not to build it and the Japanese company acquiesced because Leica is revered in Japan.”

    Guys, if you’ve spent the gynormous amounts of money necessary to build the best mousetrap in the world, you don’t scrap the whole thing because the competition asks you not to hurt their business or because you may offend your competitor’s customer base. Capitalism doesn’t work this way. If you’ve got the better product, you go for the gusto and try to sell the thing like there’s no tomorrow.

  • Akaky…
    Remember were talking about the Japanese…
    Whole different culture to ours, honor and honesty is above life and death. Actually more prototype mousetraps are probably scrapped than you could imagine…it’s another way of experiment and developing.
    One of the reasons digital slrs have really advanced so little from the good old film cameras is because it is well known the Japanese as a society encourage unity between them and a groundbreaking innovation as a concept goes against this.
    But yes I also see your point perfectly.
    BTW still thinking over the wheel barrow issue…i don’t think it matters where we sit DaH…i’ve got a suspicion we’re going to have to tie him down…

  • Whoever it was that was waiting for the DXO report on the x100 sensor, here ya go.

  • a civilian-mass audience

    GORDON…”He knows his limit however and only has one.”…we better do as BRIAN !!!

    My Japanese friends didn’t arrive(we will find a way though)…BUT civilian’s house,your house is full with people…easter is coming,so many people to feed,so many smiles to receive…
    busy,busy,BURNING busy…
    keep shooting…
    I love you all…I will be back

  • Yikes Paul, judging from those links, you’ll be playing a much bigger “arena”! The Toronto procession is put on by Franciscan monks, and the crowds are much smaller. Here are some photos from the Church’s site:

    It looks like your march will be at night, whereas mine will be during mid-afternoon. You’ll be shooting @ 3200 or so – no flash? – I’ll be down in the ASA basement with a Vivitar 285HV. Our respective approaches are diverging already at the statement of intent stage; it will be interesting to see how each of us will interpret the day’s events. I’m thinking along the lines of capturing the collective emotional intensity of the crowd, presented as a contact sheet.

    Let’s do a “I’ll show you mine if you show me yours” afterward…

  • a civilian-mass audience

    I wish I can play too…maybe I call all my Greek BURNIANS…our march in Grecolandia will be at mid-night…hey ya…let’s do it…!!!

  • a civilian-mass audience

    and yes…we have good news from the front lines…

    they are working hard…they bonded…
    may the spirits of inspiration be with you …with all of you !!!


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