sunset over Manhattan….

Sunsetovermanhattan

HELLO ALL…

i am having the most amazing afternoon…the sun is setting over
lower Manhattan..such a cliché…Mike and Marie are here and we are having a
rollicking good time….i asked them to do a "screening" of the self
portraits you submitted, none of which i had seen before….as you know,
i have been pretty busy since setting up this lighthearted  judging..

i
always have more going on than i can possibly do, but that leads me to get
done more than i would do if i did not take on just a bit more than i
can actually do…get it??  probably not..well , in fact ,i am a lazy procrastinator by nature….so, i have to "trick myself" in many ways to "get motivated"..can any of you relate to this????

anyway, what fun!!!!  you guys really did it..each and every picture  is a treasure one way or the other…YOU ALL GET FIRST PRIZE!!! (metaphorically)..  but, i have no clue how this can be judged…hmmmm, time to "pass the buck" i reckon…

but i promised a judging , so i guess i (and others)have to do it…but i want to publish a bunch…

so thanks to all of you for giving me so many inner smiles this
afternoon and, more importantly,  no small amount of inspiration….this is my ultimate compliment to you as, in this case, a spontaneous collaborative "whole"….

ok, i gotta get back to seeing all of your work….i want to narrow the whole set down to about 35-40 for the  curators…i just cannot lean on my friends to take the time  to  judge from 175 photogaphs!!! so i will make the "first cut"….

so so sweet the light right now….

cheers, hugs et al…david

161 Responses to “sunset over Manhattan….”


  • david, you’re back! :-)

    but don’t stay too long. enjoy the spectacular cliche first ;-)

    bj

  • hi david

    hope you had a nice time in paris… it seems you did !

    will you be in perpignan this september ? Just had a look on the program : I’ll try to be there ! It would be great to meet there !!

    now going to bed..

  • Hi David, welcome back home.

    Yes- I am procrastinator. But I don’t use any tricks to get motivated. I just wait until the stinking stench of my piled of load of inbox bullshit pisses me off more than I can tolerate. Then I’m motivated to just decimate the entire pile of time-wasting annoyances so I can get back to photography.

    Sorry if I soiled your sunset! ;-)

    Asher

  • @David: btw, I just printed a 57 shot edit of the cardiff night stuff (now going by the codename of ‘last orders’) to stick somewhere on a wall in Arles… more of an anarchic mosaic than a sequenced product… I threw it on a coach in a pub today and it seemed to work ok!

  • There it is! Sunset, Stop sign, Jerry Seinfeld’s bike…all is right with the world!

  • Hey all,

    Wonderful day here too. First few days alone (without family) in Arkansas.

    Seeing your view and all the familiar bric-a-brac of your place brought back many memories. Welcome home.

    I posted an update to the bachelor series but somehow (sure it wasn’t my doing) ended up as #400 under self-portrait.

    There is a fourth bachelor…..

    Lee

  • PATRICIA….

    ok, good thinking…i wanted you to come to the conclusion that i also think is best…the self portrait nature of your work…you used the word “responsibility” and i would wholeheartedly agree…with your talent you do , in fact, have a responsibility beyond what most people on this forum may have…i am pleased that you feel this…

    now, when i go to your links i see two things…one are some of my favorite pictures of yours , but are not included in your main posted essay choices..the other, are some random pictures that just do not have the “tone” of your more personal work..

    overall, you need to clean up your presentations…let’s just have the nuggets!!!! you have them my dear…but please get the mediocre out!!

    basically, for all of us, the bad ones tarnish the good ones…

    as i have said many times trying to edit without the use of an editing program makes me crazy…i gotta be able to move things around…if i could do that, i could “fix” your overall presentation in minutes…just telling you which pics i like the best is not what i mean by editing…

    maybe there is some way to transfer or drop your link into a program…i do not know…if i can do it, i will move on editing your work soonest…

    you are a motivated woman….i am anxious to see a very strong body of work come from your “point of view” that will enlighten all…

    peace, david

  • I see person after person after person having trouble with editing..makes me feel better Im not the only one, LOL…for the record Ive been editing and re-editing and re-editing and Im probably not finished yet….but what stuck in my brain is what you said to me David, to make the story more secretive rather than obviuous, i.e. ask questions instead of telling them…alsthough I still want my story to be basically about family Im trying to emphasize shots that ask questions rather than answer. I have a 30 shot edit sitting on LS now, and I dedided that I will not exceed 35 shots until this year ends. That means each time I add a picture Ill take one out, until the end of the year and have 35 shots for the entire year. 35 of the very best I did ove that time.

  • David,

    Just came back from a painful long business dinner that would not end… Let me tell you that I have been fairly unsociable tonight…. I had to sit there pretending to be interested by the conversation when, for the whole time, I was thinking f**k, how am I going to do what David is asking me here….. I kept thinking….Trying to be intellectual… :):) what do I want to say????

    As soon as back, I went to check on-line who Larry Fink was as I simply did not know the guy…. Hard to find many pictures of him by the way but I have ordered the book so I will check out very soon his work ….Some words that were written to introduce the book were saying: “Fink reveals the spirituality, kindness, and dignity of American boxing culture in images rich with light and shadow, and respect”… Keeps going and says: “Fink’s inimitable style captures the grace, beauty, and paternal love that are the foundations of this brutal contact sport. He creates stunningly lyrical static snapshots which reveal the divine — the hope, the dignity, the perseverance, and the respect — in a fighter’s soul”

    Well well well…..Let me tell you sir that you know how to stress us….:) :) If I get no where near revealing any sort of divine I will buy you a bottle of Champagne!!!! Given Fink has an ininitable style the good news is that I will not be the same….

    Oh boy, too much thinking is killing me….Time to sleep…I know that by tomorrow, I am sure that I will know what I want to say…. Do you enjoy torturing your students? :):):)

    Enjoy New-York before you leave again for your project.

    Cheers,

    Eric

  • So bizarre—I just found a garage sale on craigslist starting Thursday at the house where I grew up. I guess I can’t miss that one.

  • Hey Eric,
    From one fighter to annother!

    The Big Empty: Dialogues on Politics, Sex, God, Boxing, Morality, Myth … By Norman Mailer

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/collective/A2592777

    http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/page/mai0int-6

  • so i’m back home sitting at the kitchen table yesterday looking at the incedible new work of some awesome photogs like ERIC E., Young TOM, PATRICIA and DAVID McG, i had some catching up to do, i’d been gone for a whopping 48 hours, simply unacceptable by the standards at this blog here, when a tiny stream of water started to trickle from onderneath my laptop off the table edge onto my lap.

    I thought this was particularly strange, as i recalled that water should not be a major part of any laptop design or construction, if only because water and electricity don’t mix very well. so i trace the trickle and i see the coffee machine leaking. it is 6pm at that moment.

    now this is a major problem. outside the beautiful sunset is setting in, my mother is coming down the stairs, my brother is sitting in the couch with his girlfriend, and we are all addicted to coffee. there are very few things more important than a morning coffee in our family. except my sister, she’s a tea person. as you can recall a couple of years ago my brother and forced mom to cut down from 40 cups a day to 5 (and we’re not talking about the little teeny weeny moka cups here, we’re looking at the big kahuna mug in all it’s splendour. 40 every day. yep. better believe it).

    My brother and I both lost body parts in that month-long fight, but we got her down to 5 eventually. Treaties signed in blood.

    And now we are in danger of mom missing one of these five shots. And i was sitting at the kitchen table, nearest to the machine. And i’m a realist, i know who’ll take the blame. No time to go to one of David McG’s garage sales hoping for a replacement. So i’m picturing the inevitable murder scene which will result very very soon if there is no coffee fast… I’m not kidding, at times of coffee shortage, i have seen mom go beserk “24 days later”-wise, like a zombie in sight of fresh human flesh. There is no escaping, she needs to be fed coffee. This thing needs to be fixed.

    So i start opening up the machine, my brother pulling out the plug, which was pretty smart considering that i was standing in a puddle of water poking a philips screwdriver down the innards of an espresso machine and dropping screws and other bits all over the place. I’m thinking no way i can fix this before she’s here.

    She walks in and for a brief second the rage rises in her right eye but we counter with our best counter yet: don’t worry, we’re just spring cleaning.

    It’s nowhere near spring, it’s july, and nowhere near cleaning, ‘cos we hadn’t the first clue how to clean the delicate innards of an espresso machine, but she fell for it.

    So basically we did what every tinkering guy does when a household appliance breaks down: open it up and unscrew as many pieces as you can, take a long hard look at it, and then put i back together again. Result: everything should be fixed. Even though you haven’t the faintest clue what you’re doing. But don’t ever tell anyone this. Always maintain the ‘air’ of knowing what you’re doing. In some cases, like here, it can, and will, save your life.

    Of course we got stuck with the dreaded “extra screw”.
    Now, honestly. where did that come from? Two guys, one espresso machine, no clue. Tape it to the side and see.

    So all’s well that ends well, i’ve lived to tell, and i’ve learned some valuable lessons. Which undoubtedly are extremely important to photography:

    - never be afraid to open something complicated. even when your life is at stake. you might just be able to pull it off.

    - love your mom, you’ll live longer

    - the innards of an expresso machine have a grinder to grind coffee beans that hurt when you put your finger in it (it also has a heating element that stays really hot for hours on end)

    - coffee tastes better when someone else makes it for you.

    I am sure my photography took a great leap forward yesterday.

  • DAVID

    Thanks SO MUCH for your ongoing help with this project. As I thought hard yesterday about the options you’d mentioned in your earlier post I realized all I had to do was listen to my heart to know the answer. My passion would not lead me astray. It became more and more clear that my passion lay with the self portraits in which I look INTO and OUT FROM my disability. So that will remain my focus.

    Now, about editing. I am confused about two things…

    The first is when you say, “now, when i go to your links i see two things…one are some of my favorite pictures of yours , but are not included in your main posted essay choices..the other, are some random pictures that just do not have the “tone” of your more personal work..”

    To WHAT links are you referring, David? Where did you go to see pictures that were not included in my main posted essay choices? When you say “main posted essay choices,” are you referring to the 24 images I’d originally posted on Lightstalkers?

    Secondly, I’m feeling pretty ignorant here but I don’t know what you mean by an “editing program.” I’ve never used anything except Photoshop to edit my work. Is there something I’m missing? If you tell me which editing program is best, I’ll download it and try to place my images there so you can help me edit.

    Hopefully we’ll have some time together in person this summer when you come through Detroit on your cross-country American Families tour. Regarding that, I sent Michael C. an email about the families I’ve lined up for you and suggestions for places for you to stay when you’re here. Unfortunately my dear husband is still walking with a walker and in too much pain for us to host house guests as I’d hoped. But you and I can get together as much as you like.

    Again, David, a BIG THANK YOU. You are most generous with your time and expertise. And I’m with you on the joys–and responsibility–of mentoring others as we get older and, hopefully, wiser. That’s what it’s all about!

    Patricia

  • ALL:

    I’m online again after a hiatus. What’s happening in the assignment arena?

    Also, thanks to all for the repeated congratulations. I’ve always shunned any sort of attention so I’m a bit embarassed by it all, but I do appreciate it. I think I may need to move Bob to full time in the publicity department soon!

    DAH:
    In your comments to Patricia you asked about a program. This may not be the best solution for everyone, but it is A solution, and the bonus is that you can kill two birds with one stone as it also handles the photo archive aspect of one’s web site.

    I’m sure you know of it, it’s Digital Railroad as they also do the backend systems for VII and Noor. You can upload lightboxes and then send them to editors or anyone for that matter.

    I’ve tried doing that with some members here and, although, I need to figure out a few aspects of the site, it worked fairly well.

    Anyway, got to run for now as I am working on a site redesign and some edits, but will be checking in later.

    slan,
    Charlie

  • Yeah.. the project was great idea.. i am happy i have last photo with my Tajra because you gave us that assignment…

    also.. i see the view from your flat in Kibutz! Did you move there back David? I wish you did! …

  • PIERRE YVES…

    i may or may not be in Perpignan this year…it is the 20th anniversary, so i may go for that reason alone and may participate in a gratis Magnum portfolio review as i did last year…Jean-François has given me several exhibitions over the years and so my loyalty/gratitude factor could win out over the practicality of having absolutely no time in my schedule to go!!

    ASHER…

    i do know what you mean…most of us have to work very hard just to even GET to the important work…

    JONI…

    sounds like a fine way to edit to me!!! so so sorry i will not be there to see the show…i had to choose between Arles and getting on with my cross country project and the project won out..again, my congratulations to you for exhibiting in such a prestigious venue….

    cheers, david

  • DAVID

    Short words about “hometown”
    When I started working at this assigmnet for you I had idea to work on leica, medium format, and russian “lomo”. It had to do mixed work.
    But first day my medium format camera has been broken, lomo not work either. And some more things goes wrong.

    month ago I have bought mamiya 7 II, but I have not films to load. And no money, I have to wait…. but
    As soon as posible I will buy some films and I will finish this essay. I want to do it like I wanted. No digital rubbish!!…
    just pure my photography…
    but it will take some time…
    Is that ok for you?
    I have some material on films, but no story yet…
    some films to process…

    What you think

    cheers, marcin

  • Pat,
    to do the edit work I use Bridge. You can also use Lightroom or ACDsee or Nikon view (if you have nikon) I think.
    Everone has his favourite.
    My favourite of course was.. the contact sheets on the floor (or table if I was lucky) with a red crayon and a magnifying glass that is becoming bigger and bigger every year.. :)

    About the post..
    I am a procrastinator. (Only shooting or eating or sleeping or enjoying I’m not).
    And a short memory.
    So I use to write down every day what I am suppose to do. If I don’t do it I write it down for the day after… BIGGER!

  • Perpignian, Perpignian…. Same situation with me David.. i may go to Perpignian or not.. will be great to see some of us, but nothing is sure yet…
    I found quite good place to stay but the transportation is crazy expensive…
    Marcin.. are you planing to go to Perpignian?

  • LEE…

    i went back and tried to search out a link for your bachelor work to no avail…nothing on your site either…where is this work??? when in doubt, please always pop in the link again if you suspect i did not see it…sometimes i will read a post, but not have time to open the link…anyway, this sounds interesting, so give me another chance for perusal …please…

    RAFAL…

    you are so so right…very few have any clue how to edit…i am always surprised by this fact…photographing itself is an act of “selection”, so why doesn’t this carry over into editing???

    all i know is that some photogs can do it and others just cannot…and this goes for some very fine established photographers too….for example, one of my favorites, Cristina Garcia Rodero, who works all the time, makes amazing photographs, just cannot edit..cannot make the decision to “let go” of certain pictures…will even have 4 “similars” in a take…but she does surround herself with people who will help her…

    we (Mag photogs) are coming out with a series of published portfolios of contact sheets and sequences of pictures and showing the final “edit”…this spun off of a show we had that was very very popular showing contact sheets..

    in my classes i will show an untouched cf card or contact series to my students…they always tell me they get so so much out of this…

    your approach to the best 35 sounds pretty good….at least, i think it works for you and your essay and that is all that matters…

    ERIC…

    of course, i do not want to “torture” you..but the thinking process is often painful…i am in pain all the time, so welcome to the club!!!

    i will tell you this…that when there is a “breakthrough” and the concept “hits”, there is nothing more rewarding…and, not only that, it usually turns out that it was EASY…OBVIOUS ALL ALONG…do not try to do something HARD…let it FLOW with a NATURAL rhythm…

    you already “know” how to “take pictures”…your “next step” (not someone else’s) is to find the raison d’ete…the overall and over riding philosophical reason for doing what you do…you will need “weight” and “substance”….you must move past finding a good location with good light and add your personality and perspective…the right mix of boxing as a subject and you as a photographer/author…

    DAVID MCGOWAN…

    no, you cannot miss that one!!!

    GLENN…

    missing you mate….and thanks for the links…

    ANTON…

    thanks for the story…i am not quite up to your mother’s intake, but i sure need the coffee pot going too…

    as for the “extra screw”, it just must be one of the realities of life…or, in my case, “the missing screw”…”where did that damn thing go??”…well, most coffee pots will work with either one screw missing or with one too many…which is the same thing mechanically after all..right??? ok, i need another cup of coffee to ponder that one!!

    PATRICIA…

    i assume you are working with a digital camera…if so, you need to have a good editing program in your computer….like Photo Mechanic, IView Media Pro, Lightroom, Bridge (which might be what you have), etc etc…there are many more…you need to be able to easily move pictures around, put in folders, and sequence as you wish…in any case, when i am looking at your links online i cannot drop your work into my editing program..if i could , i could edit for you easily..now all i can do is tell you which pic numbers are “best”…this is painful…slow…and, as i said, i cannot move the pictures around and in a good sequence which is one of “my specialties” in a workshop or when i am doing my own work…

    on one of your last posts you left a link which did not match what i had seen before…i just do not have the time to try to imagine where it came from or to remember what, when, or from whence it came…you must make it easy for me and for any editor you want to see your work..in other words, your current essay should be easy to see..the new work should be new and not mixed with the old if you want me just to look at new work…or , if you are a good editor, just let me see the “whole” , but edited down to a clean clear vision…

    your picture of a flower with a bee for example is right next to a more poignant picture of your husband in the living room…not a match!!! Patricia, i am not chastising, just explaining!!!

    ok, here is a suggestion…i would love to meet you and your husband..and , after all, you are an American family…so, why not let me photograph you and your husband?? i make double sets of contact sheets for all my subjects on this project and you may see all that i shot and pick what you want for your own family album or whatever…then two thumbs up, yours and mine, for the final exhibition, book etc etc..if you do not like the picture for whatever reason, i will not publish…if i do not like it for whatever reason, i will not publish..two votes to go!! fair enough??

    if i am in your home, i will sit down with you and show you perhaps how to think about editing…so so difficult to do online , because it cannot always be “explained”…it is one of those “i must show you” things in life…

    cheers, david

  • If I wasn’t a procrastinator I’d be working right now instead of reading your blog ;) I think I can relate to your “problem”.

    The self portrait challenge was interesting. Liked to see what different types of portraits people came up with. Would be fun to have something like that more often – and without the prices it’d be just as fine, otherwise you’ll run out of bags :p

  • MARCIN….

    take all the time you want….no hurry…and yes, medium format film is expensive…i am struggling with this myself on my current project….

    ok, i must rush now to get my license..yes, the second day in a row!! but back to you and to Aga soonest…

    cheers, david

  • David,
    already wake up at 7? and posting! Let’s wake up Panos and other west people :)

    Of course I’m a procastinator also in editing (the final one). I also have a list with editing stuff…

    Akaky,
    finally I’ve readen all your long post. Yesterday I prinded and read it on the bus the way back home. Have you seen the Monicelli’s film “La mortadella” with Sofia Loren?
    I want to do it also with next Bob Black one. So I can procastin… etc.. other boring staff to the day after.

    Aga,
    I’m going to Perpignan, (I’ve procastinated for the last three years) I’ve a very cheap accomodation but you are right, the transport is expensive. We’re going by car from Rome in three people.

  • PATRICIA…

    i just thought of something…there is a big misunderstanding these days of the word EDIT…edit in my lexicon means CHOOSE/SEQUENCE…i ran into a problem in my last workshop because some thought the word “edit” meant to “change” as “edit” means in computer language i.e. photoshop…

    cheers, david

  • DAVID

    welcome back..best of luck with the motor vehicle dept..maybe they have a wifi connection and you can catch up..

  • David,

    you wrote :

    “if i am in your home, i will sit down with you and show you perhaps how to think about editing…so so difficult to do online , because it cannot always be “explained”…it is one of those “i must show you” things in life…”

    Don’t you think we could try and find a way of showing this online (video or step by step description or… I don’t know)

    Your short explanations have already helped a lot but I think many of us would really appreciate if we could build an online tutorial.

    What do you think ?

  • Procrastinate or flummoxed by the black dog- I can never tell the difference…

    This blog moves at the speed of light, I read Dadakaky’s bit and now I am wondering where Lee’s bachelor’s are…

    Love this rolling, roiling words and pictures place-it is often the light in my day.

  • lisa:

    no rock, but we felt the love big time :))))))…i imagine you’ll get the full on report soon ;)))…

    david:

    dmv: what you need a license for with that gorgeous bike…besides can’t Mike C and Panos drive ya around the country? ;))…

    gotta go gotta go…

    hugs
    b

  • Maybe I am making this up, but i thought I recalled Lee saying she took the images down??

    Bob,

    meeting Tamara tonight :) will have a toast to you..

    Lisa,

    my emails to you bounced back a couple of times, did I already tell you that?

  • 5:22am.. Laura I’m here..
    Reading your stuff..
    ok.. Back to bed till 7:00am..
    then packing up..
    Possible long trip ahead..

    … David thats true, about editing..
    many many people I know they think that
    editing is to “manipulate” colors, crop..,
    fix photos..etc..

  • AGA,

    No money for Perpignian.
    I’m jobless, zero money. Even if I get some money I have many work to do.
    I’m prepering to open photo studio. I will shooting food, cosmetics, people. For that I need money too.
    If I can work as a stonemason or Bricklayer I can work as a comercial photographer… ha ha
    I wish but I could not go to Perpignan this year.

    But who Go???

    peace
    Marcin

  • ERICA

    Glad that you are also catching up with Tamara, no I didn’t know my emails were bouncing, bloody hell…

    You definitely sent to

    lisa@lisahogben.com

    The other emails are decommissioned.

    Could you fill Tamara in on the project we talked about?

    Still trying to draft a proper email about it.

    BRUZ can’t wait to hear about who Family Black are in the flesh! and Erica too!

  • Hello to all,

    I shall be in Perpignan in September, I have the luck(chance) to live to Béziers (the 1 hour by car) also, I am in Perpignan every year, moreover, David, you signed me an autograph last year!
    In the pleasure to meet you all,
    audrey

  • Hello David,

    The reason you can’t find a link is because I haven’t figured out how to do it yet! Being on the road with various upload options (internet by ethernet, wireless, no internet, no phone signal) I have not been successful in giving access. I finally got them to upload with the signal I have at the Marriott and I’m working on moving them in the order I want for the essay. Anyway, normal travel adventures…

    Really want all here to see these guys and hopefully that is complete in the next day or so.

    Lee

  • AUDREY,

    I should be at Perpignan normally. Visiting my parents in the South of France and I have family in Perpignan so the plan is to be there during the first week. If this gets confirmed, will send you a mail. Would be great to meet and speak FRENCH!!!!!

    Cheers,

    Eric

  • GLENN,

    Thanks for the links…will study the words of the man….

    Eric

  • Marcin… i am going to do something similar what you want to do…
    I want to open a company with my friend (photographer) and shoot weddings and comercial things. I hope we will start it soon because i am without regular job looooong time (without money too ;-)) as you are… so the trip to Perpignian is not sure at all…

    David… regarding my project about women in Istanbul … think i can put some photographs from Female Islambul and Modern girls from Istanbul together (as a bigger story about women in that city)… I am not going to go to Istanbul in near future… (life is changing soooo fast!).. and i need to find some interesting project in Poland.

  • ERICA :)…im happy you’ll get to hang with T…we had wonderful night and, we’ll u’ll get the report i imagine…have a drink for us :)))

    SIS LISA :))))…we’re the same in the flesh (well, i am) as here/ls/on line, only i laugh much more in real life that what people probably imagine of me here, much more…and mrs. black also talks much more than on line/emails…laughs more too and is more intelligent and more beautiful that your brother, believe me…marina now wants to come to australia, and hnoping hoping we do, inside of the next 2 years…as i told Tamara, we gotta touch the rock! ;)))))))))

    ok, running away for a while..

    hugs
    b

  • Road Trip meeting in Perpignan ?

    I’ll try to be there, I’d rather communicate physically than with a keyboard…

    maybe we could organise something to make the most of that experience (slideshow with comments from all of us on each other’s pictures, etc.)

    some kind of small and informal workshop, pretty much like what is going on here, but LIVE !!

    of course we can’t ask david to arrange this, but maybe we could bould something together and ask for david’s “expertise”

    just a very spontaneous idea… nothing more !

    please tell me what you think…

  • Ok here is the link. I have designated this for anyone view and I see there is a slideshow link on the page I am linking. If it comes up as unavailable for viewing I may have to ask someone how you make Flickr know you are SERIOUS about letting anyone view your page after clicking and saving it to allow anyone to view.

    Bachelor of Campbell Lane

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/27850900@N03/sets/72157605939820251/

    Lee

  • DAVID

    My mind is whirling, whirling, whirling…

    I woke up at 3:30 a.m. my time and have yet to go back to bed (now it is 10 a.m.). SO MUCH to think about & learn!!!

    Yes, I have Adobe Bridge but had never even opened it until you and Laura mentioned it! Now I need to figure out how to use it. I’m definitely feeling the challenges of being a relative newcomer to photography (2 years), self-taught, and with no photographer friends or community except those I’ve met online. There is so much I don’t know that I didn’t even know I didn’t know! Does that make any sense???

    So sorry to confuse you by posting a link that had nothing to do with this project! Only thing I can figure is that somehow you must have gotten onto my photo-a-day galleries on PBase.com. That is the only place where a photo of a flower & a bee might be next to a pic of my Eddie in the living room. I’ll try to remember to post the relevant link in each post from now on.

    Speaking of Eddie, he says yes to your invitation to take portraits of us for your American Families project. You wanted diversity and here you’ll get a “two-for-one!” Two folks with disabling conditions–one in a scooter & one on a walker!

    David, we’d like for you to stay with us while you’re in Detroit. As long as Eddie doesn’t have to be too entertaining, he’d very much like to have you here. You’ll even have your own bedroom, but it will be a shared bath. We’re 20 minutes from downtown and 3 blocks from a park on Lake St. Clair. You can swim either in the pool or in the lake (It’s a BIG but pretty shallow lake!). Hope you’ll say yes. In terms of timing, anytime is great with the exception of July 31-August 7. I’ll be in the Catskill Mountains that week taking a workshop with Mary Ellen Mark.

    We’ll edit my stuff when you’re here. Hopefully by then I will have gotten everything for this self portraits project up & running on Bridge.

    Again, HUGE thanks to you, Laura, Katharina (by email), and Charlie for all your help. My goodness I have a lot to learn!!!

    http://www.pbase.com/windchimewalker/for_review5

    PASSWORD patricia

    peace
    Patricia

    PS David, our home phone # is 313-886-0967. As soon as you have some idea, please let us know the tentative dates of your visit. Can’t wait to see you!!!!

  • Patricia,

    Just watched your latest link. Image 3182d seems to tell your story to me, almost in one photo. It speaks of the distance between spouses a disability with a wheelchair imposes, the loneliness of being below eye level in society, the mood of the light spoke of beauty in your life as well as indicates the blues on occasion and the husband at the top in the light even though his back is turned speaks loyalty and always there.

    Hope we get to meet one day Patricia.

    Lee

  • LAURA,

    No, I haven’t seen La mortadella. I have heard of La morta d’Ella, by Ricardo DiMerdarico, the tragic opera about the love that made Bologna great. This opera opened at La Scala in 1887 and closed the same night, after an enraged piccolo player leapt up onto to the stage in the middle of Act II and stabbed the soprano to death with his instrument. A riot broke out in the mezzanine section immediately afterwards between beer-sodden mobs of Yankee and Red Sox fans that the theatre management unwisely placed near each other, despite warning that this sort of thing might occur, what with Yankee fans being the standard bearers for Donizetti, Bellini, Verdi, and the Italian classics, while the Red Sox fans, being the sort of people they tend to be, loved the realismo of Leoncavullo and Mascagni. The Carabinieri finally suppressed the riot in 1893 after borrowing some heavy artillery from the army to level the theater, killing about half of the rioters; the government sent the surviving half to Honduras as contract labor for the banana planters. DiMerdarico, the illegitimate son of a millionaire night soil collector from Aci Trezza and his mistress, a well-known circus crustacean from Jersey City, is almost totally forgotten today, and deservedly so, I think, his career demonstrating just how far a total lack of musical ability will get you in the cut-throat world of classical opera.

    LISA,

    I wrote the note to the Real Estate as you requested. How much good it will do you, I don’t know, but it never hurts to try.

  • David, Marcin,

    Sometimes you can find cheaper medium format film on ebay – the film will be either just expired or about to expire – this will be more of a problem with colour than B&W. One seller which seems to be highly recommended is huntsphotoandvideo.com.

    http://stores.ebay.com/huntsphotoandvideo-com_5-FILM-FUJI-AGFA-KODAK-ILFORD_W0QQcolZ2QQdirZQ2d1QQfsubZ6QQftidZ1QQtZkm

  • PIERRE YVES…

    i really cannot imagine how i can teach editing here on line…that is, beyond what i write about already…the way i edit with one person and their story , is not the way i edit with another…

    i have tried reviews here too…it just does not work….it takes me an hour or more to write a one or two paragraph review…and then that only leads to more questions etc etc….or, as in many cases, they do not even acknowledge that i gave a review at all!!!

    surely my basic teaching plan is best done in a workshop…i do those officially and unofficially…and , of course, people are coming to my loft all the time for portfolio reviews…i do my best here to simulate the workshop experience and we have done some very concrete things, but i cannot replicate here the the live one on one experience…

    by the way, i taught myself how to edit…by just looking at pictures…one learns to edit i think by studying the work of the photographers or painters they respect..by knowing what works and what does not work….listening to music enhances ones appreciation of music…but many photographers seem to ignore doing the same thing with pictures…

    in any case, i hope we meet in Perpignan…i will be quite happy to find a nice quiet table in the corner of a cafe and look at your work again…fair enough??

    PATRICIA…

    once i am out on the road, hopefully right after July 4, i will let you know my schedule…i would love to photograph you and your husband and can bend my program accordingly…thank you in advance for your hospitality…i think i will be self sufficient i.e. a van/camper to sleep in, but your courtesy is most appreciated…

    ERIC….

    nobody speaks French in Perpignan!!!

    AUDREY…

    you mean we have already met?? hmmmm, i had no idea…well, in that case, i look forward to meeting you again..

    BOB…

    now i am really “imbedded” …yup, i now am the proud owner of a New York drivers license…yes, i think Panos and Mike will at various times drive me around the country..can you imagine??? well, stay tuned!!

    AGA…

    yes, let’s have a look at your Istanbul women….and , yes, we have to find a new project for you in Poland…

    ALL…

    i smell another reunion for some of us in Perpignan…i am not sure i can take it!! i am still recovering from the last two blasts in both Virginia and Paris…well, ok, one more time can’t hurt….

    peace, david

  • There is nothing like the the summer sunset… I am glad you had a great day David.

    I have been working on my “crime scene” story. I will be working a a couple different aspects of the story this month, some families who are suffering the consqeuences of violent crime here, the hospitals that treat the wounded and the prisons that house the murderers.

    I have spent about 24 hrs with Baltimore’s Eastern district Police and I am going out tonight and tomorrow with them. Below are links to what I have so far, I have to admit, I am not happy with it yet. I dont think I have made it personal and I am lost at how to do that, the images reflect the old montra “if you are not close enough….” I think its not the distance in this case, but the emotional closeness perhaps? Its a strange thing to be in a cop car chasing people and then photographing them at their worst moment….

    I will say though that the project has made me ask myself a lot of questions about the state of our neighborhoods and our involvement in them. Its an eye opening experience.

    I would appreciate any feedback people can offer before I had back out tonight. Below are the links to the work I have done…. I am off for a run to clear my head and get ready for tonights shoot. I have been working the 4-midnight shift, fours of great light and 4 hours of night…. cant think of a better time to be awake!

    Hope to hear from you all, many thanks.

    http://www.sportsshooter.com/jonathanhanson/baltimorepolice1

    http://www.sportsshooter.com/jonathanhanson/baltimorepolice2

    http://www.sportsshooter.com/jonathanhanson/baltimorepolice3

  • David said …

    “….you must move past finding a good location with good light and add your personality and perspective…”

    ERIC, it’s a good kind of torture at least … bloody hell … where is it, where is it, where, who, how ……… getting the window, where the fuck is the mirror ….

    sorry, do i sound frustrated? ;-)

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