ashe kazanjian – garden

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Mary Jane in the garden    by  Ashe Kazanjian

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  • I’ve loved watching Mickey Rourke ever since Rumble Fish. And that head-butt scene in Angle Heart is one of the finest moments ever committed to celluloid.

    I’m looking forward to seeing The Wrestler.

  • Hello All,

    I’m incredibly overwhelmed at the response to this photo. I’ve been in transit from NYC to Prague, so this is the first moment I’ve had to check the site- I’m glad of it, as the time has given way to great discussion! Many thanks for both your compliments and your criticisms- I appreciate and learn from them both. I’ll try to respond to a few comments specifically, but I prefer not to say too much about it. While I learn a great deal from reading your responses, talking about photography is not really my forte. I always come out sounding like a hippie- “I love life and I want to remember everything!” etc. People seem to take my work less seriously when I say I do it for fun, so I just try to stay out of it and let them judge the work on its own merit, whatever that may be. I’ve said what I wanted to say through my medium of choice. However you receive it is up to you. I like to take photos, and I’ll continue to do so, even if nothing ever comes of it. However, if I do want to make a career out of it (and I do, very much) talking about my photos is necessary I suppose.

    SO, about the colour balance: I took this shot at dusk with a digital camera. I’m used to working with film, but for the sake of time during the workshop I switched for this assignment. (Thanks to Spencer, for loaning me his spare 5D!) I’m rather pre-intermediate with photoshop- I prefer to limit my post production to as little as possible, so I’m not an expert. I just tried to make the shot look like the moment I remembered. I have the most trouble with saving images for upload so they look the same on the web as they do in PS. While it turned up perhaps slightly saturated, that was the colour of the light- at least how I remember it. I would be interested, however, to learn how to save my files so that people can’t download and dissect them! I must say, that makes me feel rather violated. That, and I’ve always found that a little mystery is always more alluring than full disclosure. In fact, I’ve already said much too much!

    I would like to address one last comment of interest to me. Zeljko said:

    I conclude that Ashe’s feeling about the girl is more important to her than the image of the girl herself. It seems pretentious to me, that artist wanted us to think about her attitude rather than about the image. It’s probably only me, and the general audience (non-photographers) may find this appropriate regarding artist’s expression, but I am more in documentary photography than anything else, and will never understand such need for manipulation of reality.

    I think this is a truly interesting point, and it’s something I’m exploring in my work now- the idea of ‘attitude’ or perception versus “reality.” I consider myself a documentary photographer as well- I document actual moments that are occurring in life. But yes, the moments I choose to document speak a great deal as to who I am and how I perceive things- perhaps more than I’d ever say about myself. I wouldn’t have it any other way. The only difference between you behind a camera and me behind a camera is you and me. We could stand in the same spot, with the same equipment and take completely different photos, and that’s what makes photography great- the variations possible within such small parameters are infinite! ALL DEPENDING ON THE PHOTOGRAPHER. You would’ve taken this photograph with the “correct white balance,” but Darlin, your photo ain’t up here, is it? … yet! ;) I’m sure the subjects and moments you choose to capture betray a great deal more about you than you think.

    Mike R. asked me what I took from David during the workshop. The thing that struck me most and has altered my attitudes and approach towards my career is this- he said that he isn’t able to shoot whatever he likes because he shoots for Magnum and National Geographic. He was able to shoot for Magnum and National Geographic because he has ALWAYS shot what he loves. When he said that, it was as though I was suddenly released from the pressure to fit into the mold, to follow a certain path to success. The great ones have always beaten their own paths. I can to- or at least have a great time trying!

    Okay- enough for now. Thanks again, y’all. As someone very new to this game (and stumbling down her own path) your comments are invaluable!

    xx
    A.

  • I would like to apologize for analyzing Your picture, Ashe. I’ve did it because I misunderstood the other member’s question, and was trying to explain what I’ve meant by “proper white balance”.

    But let’s move on. You’ve said:

    “The moments I choose to document speak a great deal as to who I am and how I perceive things”

    That’s right, but I didn’t questioning your moment of choice. The moment is great! Basically it is a great portrait!

    I have submitted one photograph today, hopefully David will publish it, and I will be glad to discuss it with You. And one more thing… from now on, You are my Darling!

  • Hi Honey!

    Just got back, and it’s much too cold for me!
    I did bring my rollerskates, and as soon as the snow melts
    I’ll be searching for some smooth pavement!
    I’m very interested to see any shots you got that night at the loft-
    YOU TOO, DAVID! (Get those letters out?)
    Thanks!

    xx
    A.

  • “”"panos skoulidas
    January 6, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    mr.soso & ben,
    also agree…
    For your taste or style of
    portraiture.. please visit
    flickr..
    Don’t waste your precious time
    getting “BURNed” over here..
    plaaaaese!!!!”"”

    I call this a typical “group” behaving, somebody who does not belong to the “we” feeling of the group comments, at the moment he writes something critical somebody jumps out and tells him that is he is a idiot and he should leave!

    why you dont jump at people who write these empty comments like “fantastic picture again”?

  • STEFAN

    just had a look at your portfolio – especially Morocco! Was this all shot in Fes?

    In 1989, I was still a schoolkid, I got the chance to travel through Morocco by train for several weeks with an older friend. I was not into photography back then but I did start taking some shots with a little camera I borrowed – it was just irrisistible!! I could not NOT shoot. It was so beautiful, alien, mysthique … So incredible that I feared I missed most. I needed a photo to be able to go back to a specific situation to have a look at it again, to appreciate it once more. Most of the times I took photographs hidden from the hip, as people back then really did not appreciate being on photographs. I felt a little bad about it and … yeah … really tried not to photograph any faces, because I felt I was doing this against their wish … :))
    Fate had it that almost all of the films got lost anyway. Few frames left, mostly from Essauira. Amazing place back then (do not know how it is now) have you been there?

    I know a guy here, almost a friend, an artist cook, who is from Morocco. His Grandma still lives in the mountains with the rest of her family … no electricity … but very happily. My boyfriend and I are trying to convince this young man to take us around there. Hope it works out. He is not so very interested, because he sais he travels to Morocco every year and would rather see other countries. So we are trying to arrange to go with him the next time he is over to visit his family.

    Wish us luck! I am curious to see how everything changed. Or at least partially changed. Guess I’d stay a little longer to do once again this train route I did 20 years ago. But this time with camera!!!

  • Oh and by the way. I see what you meant with your original comment (you posted it twice ?!) and I see why it appears like this to you but believe me it is not this way.

    Firstly there is no “in” or “out” in this group. It really fluctuates a lot. Basically if you consider yourself as being a part of it, then you are a part of it. But by talking about not being a part … well … then you yourself kind of put it this way. So just do not bother so much with who is part or not. I had never before heard of Sean Gallangher, the winner of the first EPF grant, before he was presented as a winner. Maybe he had written a couple of times before I was around … So what? He was out there shooting, he did not have time or the possibility to participate. Writing in blogs takes up quite a lot of time so people sometimes disappear for a while. New people appear. It flows. That is just fine.

    I guess people here are a little upset when they read posts that are … how shall I put it? Well I was not here regularly during the last weeks but I read some comments where I had the impression the writer was really expecting some kind of hostility from the beginning, so he/she wrote something that was in a way already a response to this expected hostility which then … well …
    It turns out to be self fulfilling prophecy. :))))

    But if you go back in the archives, you will see unknown people dropping in all the time. Mostly in a very friendly and curious way. Some will feel more comfortable here and some less. That is normal and ones own responsibility to cope with.

    And speaking of “friendly” or “overly friendly” … you obviously have not witnessed some of the major … Ähm … fights going on here. More than once I thought that we had reached the end of the road. But it always went on. Most of the times because David just has this very appeasing way. He can smile when others shout out in anger and all of the sudden you see how childish everything was and then you make a group hug and … walk on. Like in a family. And that is one of the reasons the association with “family” keeps on comming up. Because of the fights and the making-up. I imagine it would look funny for me too, if I sumbled into this place without knowing about it. But as I have witnessed this for a while already, I know it is more a hippie family than anything where you need a membership card or so.

    Actually the only one who can say that you are “not in” is you yourself… Otherwise they would have thrown me out long ago :))) I am bloddy beginner in photography and you notice it when I write. So … I am accepted here … and if I write bullshit … nobody answers. Fair enough. Like when people write something “empty”, as you have said, just ignore it. Do not bother about it. There is no one reading proof here and no one editing in the back. Maybe one day a person just says “WOW!” and the next day he/she might find the words to explain why. Or maybe not.

    The worst thing is to be ignored – like Joe put it so nicely in one of his comments. So … yeah … to ignore someone might teach them to try to do better in a more powerful way than to write a negative comment. My 2 cents.

    So I hope you stay. And let’s talk about Morocco some day, yeah?! I’d be happy to hear some of your stories!

  • STEFAN

    you posted this twice. I took the liberty to answer to your reply-comment above :))))

    Cheers,
    Lassal

  • hello Lassal,

    Casablanca, Marrakech, Rabat, are modern citys… but the country side….wow!

    do it! Morokko is still “beautiful, alien, mysthique” Morokko is wonderful… I have been there 4 times, always with a van, driving around, north, south, west, east, sea, mountains, valles, citys, villages….
    the atlas is the most amazing thing, there you can drive around for days without seeing any civilization, look careful where you go, no gasoline stations, no shops ;)

    yes, it is difficult to photograph people in Morocco, it needs time to connect to people, no machine gun photography possible in the streets, the best is to have time, get to know people, once your in, then
    your able to take pictures. I even had the chance to photograph woman washing each other there hair and then cutting each other their hair.

    I dont think that the country side has changed a lot since you have been there, maybe they have better streets, some villages may have electricity now, but life in these mountain villages is very basic, for us
    modern people maybe “romantic”. look at these three pictures, number: 18, 19, 22 http://www.still-dancing.com/stefan-rohner-morocco these are taken in the atlas, far from anything what reminds of civilization.

    drive to the Rif from Chefchauen to Ketama, stop in the small villages, thats like wild west, only men around who want to sell you dope, they bother you every single step you do … mountains, only men, old cars falling apart, but still driving, following you, marihuana plants all over the place, many people will tell you: dont go there, it is dangerous…
    these people are farmers, picture: 30, the plant dope and ant to sell it, thats how they make their living, normal that they try to sell you their stuff.

    also stop by at Fez, the medina of Fez will leave you with the mouth open for some weeks….

    and when you arrive with a local, then all doors are open, so go for it. ;)

    regards Stefan

  • there was some accident when I posted, first I saw nothing, then suddenly two posts. first reply above…

  • Lassal, one sentence was not finished:

    I dont think that the country side has changed a lot since you have been there, maybe they have better streets, some villages may have electricity now, but life in these mountain villages is very basic, for us
    modern people maybe “romantic”. look at these three pictures, number: 18, 19, 22 http://www.still-dancing.com/stefan-rohner-morocco these are taken in the atlas, far from anything what reminds of civilization.
    people having a basic country side life, living with and from animals, seeps, olive trees, almond trees. stone houses, dirt floor, open fireplace, no bathrooms, many children, water from the well some km away.

  • Yeah, it has happened to me too… We are still not used to handle this new site :) And maybe the site is not used to us yet eihter … :))

  • STEFAN,
    …. wow, now I do not know what to say besides that this sounds absolutely amazing!! Did you drive there with an onw van (like people for example like to do when going to Iceland), or did you rent one there? I saw that in Tanger you could get practically everything for such a trip – although you had to be quite careful.

    You are from Munique, aren’t you? Denn das wäre großartig! Muss demnächst für mein Fotoprojekt dorthin und dann würde ich Dich auf einen marrokanischen Kaffee entführen!

    Muss sagen … jetzt habe ich Fernweh.
    Morocco was one of the most interesting places I have ever been to. A most amazing combination between old and new, tradition and modernism, creativity!!! You could get everything you wanted made out of old truck tires!! It smelled terribly but it was absolutely incredible.
    I am glad to hear that not all has changed.

    Thanks for your so very detailed description – seems to me that you are a great fan of the country too … I will check your photographs again!

  • “A most amazing combination between old and new, tradition and modernism, creativity!!! You could get everything you wanted made out of old truck tires!! It smelled terribly but it was absolutely incredible.”

    Lassal,

    we went with our on van, boat from Ibiza (I live on Ibiza) to Valencia, then 750km to Algeciras, from there boat to Ceuta, passing 4-5 times the super security boarder to Morocco.. no! wait to get in it is easier, coming back to europe they control you 4-5 times…something like the former inner german border! dogs and many policeman..

    you know how we meet our best friend in the mountains… we have been sleeping in then van, in the night one of the curtain lets it place and the window was open, in the morning there was a man close in front of our window ;) sitting on his donkey… ;)! situations like this you get every day! ;)

    his children: http://www.still-dancing.com/sdgallery/displayimage.php?album=81&pos=11

    we can also talk through skype if you want to know more.. regards Stefan

  • Hi Eva.
    I think “a selected photograph” should be an outstanding photo, and here I see only a “slightly out of focus” photo.
    So I’d like to understand why Mr. Harvey has chosen this photo. That’ all!

    Ciao
    Giovanni

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