
It might seem to you, albeit by pure coincidence twice in a row here, that I lean heavily in the direction of photographing at the beach. Often very specifically women at the beach. This photograph made just yesterday, and in keeping with my oeuvre of just shooting whatever is around me anyway. So Michelle was just hanging with us on what started as a cloudless hot sunny day, and then the afternoon front rolled in and it was time to take a picture. Of a woman on the beach. One of my great motives for being a photographer in the first place to be quite honest. Not high minded enough? Please. Isn’t “attraction” what we all think about the most? Hasn’t attraction, love, sensuality inspired more art than anything?
Most of the women I photograph are with other men. Much safer that way. Michelle and Bryan live practically next door. So we know each other’s biz. Bad idea? Not really. I like the family thing. That’s even why I like Burn, and Magnum and well all the peer groups that are in fact versions of family. Michelle has her hands full. She must maintain her relationship with Bry AND sort of make sure that I well, stay out of trouble.
My own instincts have provided me with a lot of adventure, but right now my work and peace seem like the right way to go. Besides Michelle is totally dedicated to protecting me from all kinds of things – mostly me!. And because of this I am for sure in the most productive time of my entire career. Weird. Nobody could TRY for a late career boost. As you can imagine that sort of thing is just fate or luck or …?? Michelle makes sure I stay on track. That does not mean I can’t go out on a date. It does mean that I will think about it more than twice as opposed to my oftentimes less than once back in the day.
Does this mean I don’t have fun? Well go back and look at the riobook saga and see what you think. The upcoming book, designed by Bry, is all about me being myself which is of course where I try to take my students. And a move towards the purest of visual literacy. I have honestly managed to stay in the zone now for a long time. Deep in November and December, but even before and after as well. Michelle and I do the best party dirty dancing performance with Bryan often smiling from the side. So we have the most most fun. My family days all around are surely my best days.





Uh oh.. BRUCE DAVIDSON.. trees.. photography.. light..gloom..
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/photobooth/2012/04/bruce-davidson-los-angeles.html
Video!!
Eva…
Thanks for the video link. Saving it for late tonight far away from work.
Paul..
way way way too short! Or way too too too short?
EVA, fair enough.
regarding the TOS, I would like to ask a question – as a provider, you want to protect yourself and your users against certain problems, like copyright infringements or unlicensed use. Your requirement therefore is, that your users have to agree to only show stuff they own or produced, and to allow them to show their user-generated content and share it on the site, i.e. one can use e.g. a picture and show it to others within the site. How would one write down this statement, so that it can stand a law suit?
I posted this sometime back but it seems appropriate with this conversation:
http://vimeo.com/20718237
Noam Galai’s photography was stolen hundreds of times for years without his knowledge. This is his story.
I’m not really concerned but I’m still looking, reading and following closely all of this apparent mess (FB buying instagram) that this is creating. 2 contacts I was following have left instagram already.
Eva,
Nice find! thanks for posting. Too short! that’s for sure.
Casual interview with me here on this blog. Two parts.
http://riffraf.typepad.com/riffraf/2012/04/great-rock-photographers-the-charles-peterson-interview-pt-i.html
Thomas… Once again, stating the obvious, I am not a lawyer. But of the two statements below, which would you rather sign on to?
From Instagram:
“Instagram does NOT claim ANY ownership rights in the text, files, images, photos, video, sounds, musical works, works of authorship, applications, or any other materials (collectively, “Content”) that you post on or through the Instagram Services. By displaying or publishing (“posting”) any Content on or through the Instagram Services, you hereby grant to Instagram a non-exclusive, fully paid and royalty-free, worldwide, limited license to use, modify, delete from, add to, publicly perform, publicly display, reproduce and translate such Content, including without limitation distributing part or all of the Site in any media formats through any media channels, except Content not shared publicly (“private”) will not be distributed outside the Instagram Services.”
From PicYou:
“PicYou does not claim any ownership in any of the content, including any text, data, information, images, photographs, music, sound, video, or other material, that you upload, transmit or store in your PicYou account. We will not use any of your content for any purpose except to provide you with the Service or to promote this Service.”
congratulations CHARLES!
i enjoyed the Interview!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Carlo it has been re appropriated like Munch’s Scream, Rembrandt’s Nightwatch, Warhol Marylyn, etc etc etc …as more and more of the third world gets on line copyright laws will lose their bite. The biggest losers the lawyers.
MICHAEL,
one is an explicit, the other is implicit.
With PicYou, you don’t know what they mean “promote the service”*) , so you’re signing to something you do not know, while with the Instagram, you at least know what you are signing. At the end, maybe both using the pictures for the same things.
*) what, if they start printing housewalls with the pictures, use them in TV-ads or in Magazines to promote the service. (Yes, I know I am constructing something, but you get the point…)
The image whether still or moving is fast becoming like language just a tool like and, but, dog, laughter, esoteric etc
Thomas…
You are stretching too much. ;^}
Michael,
maybe :)
I’m not a lawyer, either.
What could be removed from Instagram’s list without harming “provide the service and promoting the service” for Instagram?
Imants,
Or maybe they’ll become mere symbols
“Instagram would like to provide a forum for you to share your photos with friends, family and the world. They are your photos. Owned by you. We have no interest in “using” them for any purpose other than their display here on Instagram. Have fun.”
Or something like that. (Not being a lawyer, I realize it’s not nearly as obtuse and confusing as it probably should be, but what the fuck. Works for me.)
Thomas..
not a lawyer either.. but Michael’s non obtuse terms would work for me ;)
And I’d even add: we charge $1 a month so that you can have fun, and we can have our pennies..
Look, here on Burn all the images © is by the respective photographers.. and that is it.
In addition, us burn viewers/readers can link to our stuff here in the comments, and if I decide to delete it tomorrow, it is gone, my pic, my decision. Easy, no?
And I am free to decide if and how much all the content and service is worth to me by clicking on the “support us” button.. :)
Individually photographs in the future or even now in most cases will/do have little monetary value
If Coca Cola uses your image it is they who create the monetary value
Picked this up on Twitter.. Duane Michals, discovered his work in Arles, fascinated by his picture stories and his writing.. great stuff, with sense of humor:
http://vimeo.com/40237404
Michael, Eva,
ok – I have to admit, I am a lawyer. – smiling.
At least lawyer enough to understand that the TOS of Instagram or Facebook do not harm my rights. They make explicit, what my right are and what their rights are. That means, there cannot be a different understanding of the respective rights.
Burn does not over-complicate things, which I appreciate, too. (I did not find a TOS at all, so it is built on mutual trust and everybody understands the implications)
Burn has two different types of content – curated content – which means I can offer my pictures, text, videos but it is the decision of burn to show it. And there are comments. A picture, or video I link to burn is not content on burn. (The link is content, the linked picture not) That is important to understand.
In this context, I also looked at the Google TOS. They make it very different. Instead of telling me, what they will do with my IP content, they tell me, that I am not allowed to use content I find on Google without permission from the creator of the content. …and they avoid lawyer-speech, by staying explicit. :)
http://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/terms/
“Using our Services” and “Your Content in our Services”
Eva,
thanks for the link. Great :)
Thomas… I genuinely appreciate your professional legal take on all of this. The back and forth has been helpful. Many thanks.
Now if you’ll excuse me…. I’m way behind on my Hobo Chronicles! ;^}
-M
Another great link…thanks Eva.
http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/cispa_facebook/?source=fb
u guys made me search more about that FB subject, thank you all!
http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/cispa_facebook/?source=fb
PETITION TO MARK ZUCKERBERG: What is Facebook thinking? You’re encouraging Congress to obliterate online privacy — Even as your users express increasing concern about the privacy of their accounts on your site. Please withdraw your support for CISPA right away.
http://www.thegrio.com/specials/trayvon-martin/miami-heat-players-pose-in-hoodies-to-support-trayvon-martin.php
on another note
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/28/trayvon-martin-rep-bobby-rush-house-floor-hoodie_n_1385258.html
Panos…
He’s @mrzuck on Instagram. I say we drop him a line! Say Hi! (or something!)
hmm… maybe yes, a good idea!
Michael….you couldn’t resist!
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/04/11/snoop_dogg_s_rolling_words_is_just_the_latest_book_as_art_object.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HkfC2dfNHGM
ANOTHER AMAZING BOOK…BUY IT!
Carlo… True. ;^}
Sorry i meant to say : SMOKE IT :)
That was a fun link, Eva – epecially the series that started out with the standing by his old grandpa as he died. At first, I thought it a very serious statement about the brevity of human life… but when it turned into a seriously funny statement statement about death… I just had to laugh.
I love you ALL…
I am getting ready for Easter…I am Universal and I celebrate all kind of holidays…
therefore
may the party begins !!!
Easter lamp…and wine…THOMAS drive west…Viva!!!
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/forecasters-warn-life-threatening-storms-011855690.html
take care my BURNIANS…be safe out there
RE. Instagram app.
I love this app, it took me quite awhile to get into it, I had big doubts I’d like it. But seeing Thomas’s Eva’s, Panos’s and of course David’s work finally won me over. I use it with my iPad, I don’t own an iPhone. I purchased the new Panasonic GX1 about a month ago which is utterly marvelous, but it’s strange how I’m hardly using the machine since I signed up to instagram. I don’t really know why, but for some reason I see differently, I just don’t make the same kind of photos I get with the instagram app. I feel relaxed and very free and above all it’s so much fun. The fact that I can an get image with colours that are personally very satisfying means a lot to me, as with all my other cameras I always have to get into Lightroom and probably photoshop to feel equally satisfied. I’m not very happy about the Facebook news but there isn’t much I can do about it. I would happily change of app if all those I follow and those who follow me also as a gigantic part of all the instagram fun is seeing others and showing your work.
Paul.. Michael..
have had a look into PicYou, looks basically the same.. BUT no private setting.. so for now at least no point to me to migrate..
As for photography and cameras, same counts as for all photography.. the camera is a tool, each with its limits.. the biggest limit though is not this or that camera, but the one using it..
Civi.. rain rain rain nothing but rain..
Happy Easter!!!
Happy Easter!
Hmm, it seems I often regret the questions I ask of your guests David. With DQ’s followup I suppose it could offend. Not my intent.
200…200…AKAKY…for you;)
Good morning MY BURNIANS…!!! it’s raining…raining…raining…thank you EVA
you saved my chickens again…
KATH…yes,”brilliant” as PAUL said…and PAUL …you do “post good stuff” as KATHY said…
it’s Sunday…Easter Sunday…time for lamb…thanks the spirits I am vegetarian..;)
and THANK YOU BURN…cause when I am here…it feels good…
Spread the love
Spread your smiles
Spread your souls
life is life=
Love
Invades
Fast
Everyone…What not to Love!!!
200…MICHELLE…you are beautiful!!!
THANK YOU ALL…I will be back with wine,feta,olives and meat…!!!