i am not a fisherman….if you want to catch a fish, do not go fishing with me… i bring almost as much bad luck to fishing as i do to computers…i did catch a pretty good sized bass once with my grandfather, but that is about it….but, never mind, i do love the thought of fishing….and i live in a place where if the talk is not about surfing, it is about fishing…and i end up staying pretty silent on both…down here on the Outer Banks, my trade is just not in the conversational mix…in New York of course, photographers have some clout, but here, well, if i wanted to talk photography, i would have to take a picture of the locals with a big fish, or riding a big wave…
i do however gravitate towards the 7 fishing piers here, and most often the Avalon Pier….if this pier did not exist, then it would have to be invented…a classic structure from the 50′s which has survived many a storm and not survived many a storm…but, this old pier just keeps getting re-built and is a cultural haven if fishing, pool playing, fuzbol competition and people watching are your game…the latter is my sport of choice…someday i suspect this primo waterfront property will end up covered with time-share condos or whatever, but in the meantime i can go have a beer and watch the waves roll in between rounds of 8-ball…
the beauty of Avalon for me is that it is a total diversion for whatever i am supposed to be seriously doing…i suspect all of you have your Avalon…an escape from the must do activities of your day….a place where nobody really knows what you do, nor cares, and you are only judged by whether they like you or not…well, in the case of Avalon, if you have a big jacked-up pickup truck, that helps, but i just have to go on eye contact and a decent game of pool….
now, i basically have not worn shoes for weeks….but the summer of my content is almost over…..and the timing of the sun working its way towards the south each day pretty much matches my mood to get back to New York…funny, but when i tell the guys down here that i spend lots of time in New York, they really give me a look of sympathy…..and having spent weeks here this summer i am starting to see what they mean…
it is a good thing i had so much leisure time this summer…because now i go full bore into a very busy fall….i receive so many private emails from readers here asking for my schedule, so here is the official dah program…
first order of business will be your Burn gallery shows in New York and Washington (contact for you: Michael Courvoisier)…simultaneously i have my fall workshop schedule starting in San Francisco where i do a short weekend shooting seminar – starting September 25th – with the Momenta folks organizing(see Workshops)……
then comes my annual loft seminar “At Home” in the now historic “kibbutz” where about half the readers here have been at one time or another, and the other half are on their way…we will also do your Burn gallery show right around that time … incidentally, i have our first Burn intern, Vivek Manik, who has come all the way from Calcutta, to give us a hand with the show….Vivek will be a work/study student in the loft class….from now on i will always choose someone from the readership here on Burn to be an intern either in New York or with me on assignment…
after the New York Burn show, i roll back down here to the Outer Banks for my first gathering of photographers at my beach home who want to publish books or work on an essay …we will do hand-made books and discuss and prepare layouts for mainstream books as well….others may just want to shoot instead of make a book…their choice…my darkroom will be set-up…the pigment printer at the ready etc….my Outer Banks beach cottage will become for sure my #1 workshop location, but for very small selective classes…
at the end of October, i roll down to Oaxaca, Mexico for the colorful Day of the Dead class (see work from students last year on workshop link) …. and finally, capping off my month of mentoring, i will join my friends Ira Block and Kris LeBoutillier, both NatGeo photogs, in Bangkok and Phnom Penh in early November…
so anyone wanting to join me with my obviously eclectic lifestyle has a few choices……afterwords i plan to disappear into a magazine assignment….shhhh, secret…. and work only on my book project which is a bit behind…well, i am always a bit behind on book projects……anyway, lots going on…
all this world travel and setting up of exhibit space for your work is hard work , but fun work…but, without Mike, Michelle, and Marie, i just could not make it…Mike Courvoisier makes my collectors prints, will manage the Burn shows, and runs the New York loft workshop … Michelle Smith and Marie Arago run the OBX beach and Mexico workshops respectively …Michelle has produced ad shoots for me which is the test of all production tests…Marie worked for me every day in NYC before she moved to the warmer climes of Miami…. now, all of this has to do with balance….my main mantra…balance…making hard work fun and making fun hard work….or, actually , just getting the most out of life…
ok, enough said…. it is about time to head for Avalon…the wind now is starting to clock around from the northeast…that means good fishing, poor surfing, and winter is coming…
do all of you have your Avalon??? i do recommend creating an Avalon if you do not have one…to catch a fish?? maybe…but, that is not the point…the act of fishing is more important than catching fish…or, at least that is what i tell myself when i am fishing with my camera and it just is not happening…
-david alan harvey
one of my old camera bags goes to the first person who can name the movie that featured this house….
My “personal” avalon is back in Armenia – the roof of the apartment building – hidden sanctuary behind some archaic ventilation structures. I’ve lost it and can’t find it. USA is too fast for my nature to be able to stop and go to Avalon. But I have to help Civi with the F11 problem before i can stop. Maybe.
but I do find my rest in her: http://conversesrouges.com/2009/05/31/happy-again-let-there-be-bubbles/
CIVILIAN
Send me an email at m-e-s-r-o-p-i-a-n at gmail or come to converses….. will enjoy unF11ing you …
I love those two quotes Ross.
I forget who said that “youth is wasted on the young”.
I’d love to have my 20 year old body back, but the rest?, no thanks. I think my brain didn’t really kick in until I was in my fifties.
nights in rodanthe
Gordon;
Twenty again? Only if I knew then what I know now!! :-) Or maybe not; the joy of discovery is pretty damn good too…
GORDON
I’m with you. Funny thing, my 82 year-old friend Dorothy and I were just talking about this subject yesterday. I was saying I wouldn’t even want to go back one month much less 20-30 years. Dorothy said she wouldn’t mind having her young body back but not all the rest. We agreed that NOW is the best time of our lives!
ERICA
I sure hope your news about LOOK3 proves to be the real thing. I would LOVE to return to that world of “peace, love and photography” in 2010. 2011 seems SO far away!
KURT
Yes, Carl Bower’s work is exceptional. And he is an exceptional human being as well. Carl is the person who made an overnight trip to Detroit in July to help me with the text for my book. And he did so simply because he’d seen my book dummy and had heard me speak to Gene Richards workshop class in C’ville. Talk about a generous-spirited man!
Patricia
my personal “avalon” is … usually , the bathroom…:)
Patricia,..yes absolutely.
I’m not even sure I’d want my younger body back. There is comfort and something spiritual about experiencing the aging of our bodies. I don’t mind getting older, and as I get older, the reality of my mortality matters less and less. I’m even starting to feel a glimmer of wisdom.
My wife Martha and I, when we do our daily little connection ritual, often speak about this being absolutely the best time of our lives.
I’m fascinated and very inspired by your project. I can’t wait for the book.
Heaven’s to Betsy, why does Bob have to use so many words? I guess it’s the essay accompnaying the exhibition because if its just for Burn, its just too much for me and I almost missed the most important fact that I needed to make this essay work for me. Grrrrrrrrrrr.
When i’ve recovered, I can go and have another go at a comment. Later. Later.
Out on a limb.
Ok. Can someone please enlighten me. How do you all know each other? Do you even all know each other? It often looks like it. Is this forum a private affair? It rather looks like that which means that I must be an intruder. But I am inclined to think not.
I have other questions, about photography, but I’m afraid I will be shot down for my ignorance, so I don’t ask since no one here asks questions of a similar nature. And while you might think there are other places to ask these questions, I’ve not found them. I know many of you would know the answers though.
Gordon;
All this talk about age reminded me of a conversation I had with my mum and dad the other day. We were talking about the terms “old man” and “old lady” as being regarded a term of disrespect when used instead of “mum and dad”. E.g “we’re going to visit the old man and old lady tonight”
It’s not a phrase I use, but plenty do. But if you had said someone was a young man or lady no one would take offence? Is it because we (speaking mostly of modern western cultures) hold anyone who is “old” as being lesser?
I often think that we don’t hold older people in high enough esteem. Whereas in many other cultures older people are looked up to and highly respected. Maybe it’s a trait of consumerism? I don’t know, I just thought it was an interesting concept.
Andrea;
“How do you all know each other? Do you even all know each other?”
Many people on here have met up in real life in the US and in Europe, for the rest of us it’s an “online friendship” It’s pretty difficult for us in the Southern Hemisphere (for me; NZ), to meet up with others :-) But the online friendships are great.
As for questions; just ask away; someone usually answers. It just depends how “active” things are that day. However we usually shy away from “technical” camera stuff. I hope that helps!
Cheers
andrea – yups.. ask away.. it’s a friendly crowd here..
andrea c:
‘heavens to betsy’….
it’s the forward i wrote for the book…..and it’s not a ‘comment’ for burn, but an essay written to accompany Marc’s project….no, not exclusively for burn, but published here first….
it was written for marc…..
bob
in book form it’s going to be great bob.. a really well crafted introduction which will add to the ‘reading’.. – perhaps you can tell us – will more of marcs ongoing project feature in the book?
i remember seeing the workshop photos and an evolution on that story as well..
sumptuous
d
Andrea finds it difficult to see beyond herself………
NQ ????
ANDREA…
you are in the right place to ask questions…so, please ask away…..many writers here simply
“know each other” from right here…..just as we are getting to know you….i had a blog Road Trips for about three years and that evolved into Burn where readers could have their work published and viewed worldwide..one of the spin offs from the blog and Burn as well, is that in my travels i have met many of the readers and writers here..whenever i go to anywhere in the world, i tip off the audience here and we all meet..i have also mentored several photographers here by editing their work if they take the time to track me down….i.e. Patricia’s soon to be published book Falling Into Place was a work in progress that all who have visited here in the last couple of years watched firsthand…Mike Young’s soon to be published book Blues, Booze, and BBQ the same…i have at least three other books projects going on here as well….you might want to spend some time searching the archives of Burn, which includes the three years of Road Trips as well…
i spend some of my time mentoring very serious photographers who will either enter the profession of photography or are at least very seriously involved with gallery shows and book publishing….but, i also have relationships with photographers who take their work seriously, but have no intention of earning their living as photographers…. and many of the readers/writers here are not photographers at all….what i have to offer those who are interested is pretty simple…i am a struggling photographer myself..yes, perhaps with a bit more experience, but with all of the same things to overcome as everyone here…i know the difficulty of creating a style and then taking a magazine assignment and getting the work to speak from a personal level….i know the pressure of doing commercial work and having even that reflect this style…and i know the steps to take in getting a book published or securing gallery representation……mostly, i try to have photographers think about the “why” of what they do so they will have something to say with their work….this is the most important thing…having a point of view and being able to express it…so, this goes for the journalistic photographers as well as the photographers who prefer inner expression and more esoteric manifestations…
there is no doubt in my mind the most value for being here is what all of you learn from each other…i just provide the location…the meeting point…i do it online and i do it in “real life”….by the way, the audience of Burn goes way way beyond the writers here in the comment section…what seems like a little “club” is very misleading…we have so many regular readers who never write…that is why i constantly and consistently tell writers here to think before they write…thousands read every word you write Andrea…and if you have some work to show, then we are ready to take a look….
cheers, david
Imants find it’s difficult to do more than make snide remarks.
I had an aunt like you Andrea, sorta had that bossy nature that you emulate…Grrrrrrr as you do to others
hey.. my dads the biggest :)
harvey seems to have a way of recruiting people .. a sincere interest in meeting other snappers which is refreshing.
i think i have met 5 or 6 people from here now.. it would be great to meet more in the states at some point.. who knows.. maybe perp will be a big meet up next year..
only met people from on here over the past year.. whats exciting is staying in touch with people regardless of whether they post or not.. andrea – always feel free to email anyone.. i think a lot of us do.
i remember, back on road trips, during the first week i was looking someone mentioned that they had no money for camera film.. and people sent them film.. made me think to start joining in.
Thanks for your response David (and others who welcome my questions). Sorry to have missed out on all your doings over recent years. Beg pardon.
Where have I been? I turned my back on photography for more than 13 years. And on the web, finding the good stuff or what you are actually searching for, is often a matter of luck. I think i found your site from the Magnum site. It caught my attention because of the emerging photographers thingy but I wasn’t ready to submit anything in the end as I had only just bought my first version of photoshop and hadn’t even got my first DSLR then. I am now kicking myself for not even bothering to learn how to use my digital compact completely. Kicking myself for lots of things but anyway, what’s done is done.
I will get around to ask my questions more openly now, as and when they come up. They are usually prompted by something I see in the photo essays and the ensuing discussion. Rather than go back and try to recapture my thoughts, I will wait until they come up again. Although I will reassure whoever it was mentioned it, my questions are not of a technical nature unless composition is considered a technical matter.
..
another good kickback from this place is inspiration..
i’m hoping to see one of my ex students, ALEX, published up here – with work which was inspired by audreys essay in burns early days..
ANDREA…
i added a bit to my original comment to you..i deleted the “where have you been?” which was written with a smile and jokingly, but i realized could be mis-interpreted…one of the dangers of the fast paced writing medium of the net…..i stay away from tech talk generally….if you have a point and shoot camera, that is more than enough…
DAVID BOWEN…
yes, that is the ultimate spin off…now amigo, we have GOT to do your final edit…and do a preview of your upcoming book…are you ready??
cheers, david
DAH – that second paragraph does it for me..
it takes up the point with,
“i am a struggling photographer myself..yes, perhaps with a bit more experience, but with all of the same things to overcome as everyone here…i know the difficulty of creating a style and then taking a magazine assignment and getting the work to speak from a personal level…”
that being known makes this a good place – a leveler.. an indication to those who do not know that there are no ‘breaks’ big enough to make a career.. it’s always a struggle and always for the love of snapping..
while for some it may only take a year or two to find a place, for others it takes 5 or more..
it’s refreshing to be taken seriously, with a humble attitude, by the other photographers who frequent this place – and that is the vibe flowing due to your attitude.
anyway..
asking questions..
i was asking anton last night.. i need a digital camera for a job at the end of the month.. limited funds.. choices, choices.. none of us are too proud to ask :)
i am ready david – yes thanks..
the funny thing is that the work has been ready for a long while.. i think what i needed to work on was more philosophical.. more of the confidence game.. but a different confidence game than the one i have used to gain commissions.. a much more intimate confidence game and showing with the intention of doing a book is a helluva lot more nerve racking than serving magazine clients..
so yeah – i’m now confident and ready to throw my work out there with the, (still feels loft), idea that it might actually warrant a book :)
ha.
i have a feeling there are two or three more to come from my archive once this one is nailed and i cannot wait.
and an effect of being here.. my attitude to shooting has changed somewhat.. it has always been with serious intention and a compulsion.. and now it’s with added enthusiasm.. for books.. which in tern has changed my perspective of working for magazines, which i have begun again after a year or so..
i was in danger of becoming cynical them..
yeps..
going shopping .. grandparents visiting.. busy house full of cake, coffee and tor capa is leading the way with humor.
d
(still feels ‘lofty’ i mean to say)
Bavid bowen. I have a d2x thats just lying around gathering dust. If you want to borrow that, and can source some glass for it, its all yours and i will post it to you. John.
btw it works perfectly and takes very clean pictures. Its my ‘corporate job’ camera, and seeing as how that seems to be dead in the water at the moment (9 days paid this year..ouch) it would appreciate the outing im sure.
email if interested.
DAH,
(too many Davids here)
I sent you an e-mail regarding your suggestion. Have a look please and see what you think. I would be all aboard on this.
ANDREA C
I’d guess that most of us who post can relate to your feeling that everyone else seems to know one another and that there is some sort of “inner circle” here on Burn, ’cause we felt that way at the beginning too.
As for me, I found Road Trips back in April 2008 and was intimidated as hell, not just by the level of the discussions about photography and the intimacy others seemed to share with one another, but by the quality of photographs being shared. Back in those pre-Burn days we only shared links to our work rather than seeing essays or photos posted here, but there was lots of sharing and asking for feedback from DAH and the community. And feedback, then as now, was very honest. I felt totally out of my depth and “left” Road Trips a good number of times in the first couple of months. Of course, no one here knew I’d left, but it took awhile before I started to feel comfortable enough to stick it out. And it was not because of anyone else’s comments or anything; it was all about my own lack of confidence.
What I’ve learned about this community is that
1) Many posters have never met DAH or the other posters and perhaps never will because of geographical constraints. But meeting in person is not the only way to build up feelings of comfort here; being a regular contributor to discussions is. Even those of us who have been lucky enough to meet in David’s Brooklyn loft, at the Look3 Festival of the Photograph in Charlottesville, Virginia, at VISA pour l’image in Perpignan, at Magnum parties in London or Paris, or at one of DAH’s workshops around the world, still have moments (days? weeks?) of feeling out of the loop, misunderstood, not appreciated and an “outsider.” But isn’t that true with ANY community, online or in person? AndreaC, you are already an important part of our community. I hope you know that.
2) You don’t need to post your photographs — or even be a photographer — to be a valued member of the Burn community. Look at A Civilian Mass Audience. Where would we be without him/her (I don’t even know which!)? Civi adds SO MUCH to our community feeling. S/he is a voice of love and acceptance whatever is going on. Just be yourself and you’ll be fine. We have lots of different personalities and ways of communicating here. And, yes, some folks really get on each other’s nerves. But that’s true in any community. One thing about Burnians — and maybe this comes with the territory of being a photographer — is that we are each unique individuals, many with pretty strong opinions and no reluctance to express them. Respect is expected but not always in evidence. But we won’t give up trying.
Andrea, I hope you’ll soon feel at home here. You are adding an important voice to the mix. And don’t rush, but when you’re ready we’d love to see your photos.
Patricia
john
or.. gohn :o)
very kind sir..
i could promise the very filthiest of hedonistic weeks in the balearic islands for that much neglected body of yours.
erm..
i mean.. er..
hmm
will be in transit through south london on wed 24th.. what you up to?
perhaps squeeze in a jar or two as well, (if i can make it).
lenses no prob.. .. okay ..
very kind offer and i shall let you know soon as..
i might invest the commission fee in sommit before i go ..
rafal..
TOO MANY DAVIDS ?
how very rude of you..
we need MORE DAVIDS>>
we have
david ba
david mc
david ah
david m.e.
let us destroy borders and gather davids together..
cool. let me know. I may be persuaded to go south of the river if its for a good cause.
regards glass: I do have a kit zoom, an old MF 24mm and a 100mm macro if you really need them, but you are better of using good Nikon glass if you have it(or can borrow/hire it).
[startgeek]
[excludeleica]
funnily enough i have found myself with great nikon and canon lenses after the summer…
pondering a change so during the summer shot both systems next to each other..
was very interesting, for me..
but not for everyone :o)
[/excludeleica]
[/endgeek]
okay – will be in touch by email closer the time.. would be good to grab beers..
BTW – was not hinting above that i wanted to borrow a camera – was asking anton opinions on systems is all.
yeps.
i want to meet patricia.
DAVID B
I know we will meet one day. I see it…
Patricia
DAVID BOWEN…
i have always worked with the so called “prosumer” cameras…the middle range…sold mostly to amateurs ,not the top of the line…except for the M6 which is the only really pro camera i have used…i prefer the mid range because they are smaller, lighter, more “people friendly” than the scarier big zoom lenses cameras which can do too many things that i just do not need done..i.e. i will take simple and inconspicuous over more megapixels any day…i shot Living Proof with the D70 for these reasons (love the pop up flash)…yes, the D2x would have been “better”, but it was way too much camera for the way i work..and judging from your work, i think you can and should work with the mid-range as well…plus, oh yes, another advantage…less expensive!!
PATRICIA…
great comment…thanks….
ERICA…
hmmmm, sounds like a modified, but equally exciting, Look3 to me….but, i do not know for sure…will find out…if it goes the way Andrew spoke to me about, the Burn crowd would be front and center..we will see…that is at this point a long way off…
I’m simply thrilled that it isn’t taking a year off, i’ll be happy for any form…
Sitting delayed on a runway. Send thoughts of a peaceful and easy journey
Soon
DAVID
Just wanted to make sure you got the photoshelter invite to view the apple harvest images. As I said in the invite, there is no hurry. If you did not see it I will resend. Thanks!
Andrea, so far, I have only met David and Anton…. The extent of our relationship off line is being the guest of Anton the night I stayed in Paris, as the subways were closed, a generous gesture truly in the spirit of BURN, and impossible to forget: the hotel room walls were PINK, and the prostitutes down below on the street were speaking french, not….thai! :-))))
And my one-on-one extent of conversation was David asking me how I got to pick up a camera (Or “how could you pick up….” I don’t quite remember) Everything else was just as on BURN. Too many people, too much noise, too late, but a lot of FUN! :-))))))
HERVE…
my memory of our meeting is a bit different, but no matter….my memory is that i invited you to a Magnum gathering in Paris and i introduced you around…i did not know however that you and Anton stayed in a brothel…by the way, what was your answer to my question??
David, I am glad you mentioned you changed your post otherwise I would have missed the rest of what you wrote. I did understand that you were joking but anyway I chose to answer it straight. Probably because a humorous reply did not come to mind more quickly.
Well I have a lovely 40D canon now and nice 17-55mm 2.8 lens to go with it. A great buy off ebay, so I am still spinning with joy over it. My compact was a canon and I loved it too, just never spent enough time with the manual so I never used all the technique I did know (dof etc) so most of my shots look like snapshots, even though I like them a lot – if I say so myself. They are probably only good anyway because Indians are such beautiful looking people and their culture is so visual and they are so interesting. I am so excited about going back soon with a more serious approach to photography in mind. I personally have no prejudice against cheap or crummy cameras. I have seen wonderful pictures taken with all sorts of things so I know what you are saying but even so I hadn’t expected it in this environment. I am not doing this merely for fun. I want to make my living from photography if I can.
About comments. I hear you. But I am who I am I am afraid and I always stand out in a crowd because I am so opinionated. I can’t help it. I could not be a lurker if i tried. But i wish others would be louder too, so I can hear more of what they’ve got to say as well.
I have not got any pictures I want to send through yet although I could send some portraits from my last trip to India if you were that keen to see something. Otherwise hopefully after India but I wonder where everyone puts theirs. I have some in various parts of the web. I don’t like flicker and pbase very much. Photoshelter looks good though but its not for me just yet. Maybe lightstalker will serve in the medium term. I did end up putting some links there under my name (thanks to Imants challenging me to do so) but I haven’t fixed the images with photoshop so they could be improved.
Imants, bossy? D’ya think so? I hope your aunty was a nice woman also. Like me. I am direct and don’t pull my punches as much as I should I guess. I will probably do it more and more. But i like my criticism straight and not veiled in too much flattery. I think its more useful to have the truth of what people think than only praise or silence. Then you at least have the option to reject it if you think you know better.
Oh here’s a question – for anyone. When I take pictures of strangers, I am more comfortable when it shows that they are engaged with me. I do not feel so comfortable about pointing a camera at someone who is busy doing something else, so many of my people shots end up as portraits or portraits in context. And I do not like to steal pictures, though I do that too occasionally. I guess for me its a challenge to get people to carry on doing what they were doing before I turn up and ask if its ok to photograph them. Sometimes it happens naturally. I am sure with photographers who are on a project where they know the subjects well and their presence is agreed and accepted, it’s much easier to get people to ignore you, to treat you like a fly on the wall. It’s especially hard to avoid representing this engagement when we don’t share a common language. You don’t want to start bossing your subject around when you’ve only just met them. But i get the impression that in photojournalism, it’s frowned on to have this engagement with the photographer visible in the shot, especially through the expression of the subject. As if there is something wrong with it. As if it made for a lesser shot. I personally do not think there is anything wrong with it or that its a lesser shot. But you do get a different picture of course.
Now, I can almost hear you starting to object that you believe there is nothing with wrong with that and … but i think there would be qualifiers ie how such pictures are suitable for certain uses etc but are not really good photojournalism practice, so I might stop you there and just ask that you address only or mainly the point that my perception is that there is something not so accepted by the majority (rather than your own opinion) – if you were to agree with me -, about this awareness of the presence of the photographer in a photograph. I hope that’s not too hard to understand. I think i have not been very clear though. Unless of course you think i have got it all wrong but I don’t think so.
I think i am getting at the question of objectivity and the perception of objectivity. Why do PJs try to avoid this engagement with the photographer so assiduously – as if to do so were a bad approach. What’s so wrong about being part of the picture if you are going to admit and accept that subjectivity can’t be helped anyway. I think consensus these days is that we can’t help but bring out subjectivity, our biases, our prejudices, our points of view and opinions, and our personality to making a picture, so I’m saying why is it less ok not to make it plain.
You know I love those shots that show the background paraphernalia like lights and the edges of the screen in fashion shoots, or pictures of the crowds of other photographers in photojournalism. Pictures that address photography (in an overt way) and not just the subject at hand. Not saying it should be obvious all the time but i like it when it shows up. So for me being part of the picture insofar as the subject acknowledges your presence by gazing into the lens of the camera is to not to deny the presence of the camera and photographer and the point of view of the photographer. I am not against the fly on the wall approach but I think i also like photographs particularly when they are about photography and acknowledge or engage with that subject too. But in most photojournalism i’ve seen lately there lingers this traditional approach of denying the presence of the camera and I picked up somewhere that it is still considered…. struggling to find the right word… the most professional approach. (That’s not the word I wanted). Ok I think by now you must get what I am on about.
Patricia
I’ve just exhausted myself on the above. I was going to address your points but I think i’ve already taken up enough space so I will do it in more depth later. But thanks for your words.
OUR PATRICIA,
I am gonna say I LOVE you…and YES, we will meet …all BURNIANS in your Greek home.
May I ask what is the name of your book???
and YES, THANK YOU PATRICIA…it’s all about inner confidence !!!
BURNIANS …you are the POWER, the inspiration,the motivation,the passion…
KEEP IT UP and SHOOT !!!
DAVIDB,
is BURN baby walking fast ??? Enjoy him and Don’t forget Lady B !!!
I have a Sony Cybershot…nice pixels…hmmmm….
and I might have a Lubitel 2…an old “flame” wants me to have it…hmmmm…
Are you coming to Greece for work???Shall I e-mail you?
… I haven’t started to give away your keys …not yet…cause
I still help this “burned” family from Athens…:(((
BUT,please let me know…there are always plenty of alternatives.
The sky is the limit…LOVE
HAIK ,
is the best tech guy around…He responded ASAP regarding my crushed computer !!!LOVE
ANDREAC,
I haven’t met anyone yet…:(((
I am not a photographer.
I like to drink, to eat and to LOVE YOU ALL.
I live in western Greece and I have a house and you can have a key too…
I got plenty of olive oil and ouzo !!!
ENJOY us and we will enjoy YOU…
P.S I miss many BURNIANS…Where Are you …I hope you are Shooting…HOPE
Anton and Herve…may ask regarding the brothel in France…just curious …hmmmm
Andrea,
Stealing photos is one way to put it. It all depends. Some folks like to know the person before photographing and it seems you are of that type. Some want to be part of it before photographing. And some just want to stay as far away “mentally” as possible.
It is your personality and what you want your photograph to be.
There are no rules.
Herve,
Ready to meet 3 more BURNians?
See Andrea? We are real …
Hugs
Andrea,
I was going to say something almost exactly like what Haik just said. Essentially, you can shoot anyway you want. Up to you. Mix it up, have a blast.
CIVILIAN
You, my dear friend, are the REAL DEAL! When I hear you say, “I still help this “burned” family from Athens…:(((“, my heart is moved by your generosity. Yes, we will meet. As with David B, I see it happening. And then I will know if you are a man or a woman! Until then, don’t tell. I love surprises…
And my book is called “Falling Into Place” because I fall alot and this IS my place in life.
ANDREA C
You are now using my camera and (almost) my lens! Sounds like maybe you have the Canon lens while I have the Tamron, but I’m sure they operate pretty much the same. I adore my 40D and my 17-50 mm f/2.8 lens!! This is all I’ve used for the past two years even though I have other lenses. And I used it exclusively on all the photos for my Falling Into Place self portrait project.
It’s a good choice for a “people person” like you (and me) because you can get right up close to your subject and go to town. I also like to engage with folks so I’m not much of a traditional street shooter. If you look at one of the portfolios on my website — The Blue Mirror Project — you’ll see what I mean. Every one of those folks agreed to pose for me even though, in most cases, we were “strangers.” Is ANYONE a stranger, though? To my way of thinking, they’re just friends I’ve yet to meet. Sounds like you would probably agree.
Have fun with your new camera/lens and feel free to email me with any questions. I’m on a need-to-know basis with my equipment, but would be happy to help if I can. My email is playdorsey@comcast.net
Patricia
David! :-))))
Just teasing, I hope you knew (not sure, aie!)
The hotel was great, not a brothel at all, but close enough to that most famous red light district, Pigalle, sung by Piaf and painted by so many like Toulouse-Lautrec. Absinthe is in absentia but the place is still picturesque and noisy.
I never stepped one foot in a thai brothel either, or any for that matter, btw.
I never stepped one foot in a thai brothel either, or any for that matter, btw.
We should have another talk about that after a few beers. Let’s see how strong you stand. :)
hmm..
my history of cameras (on a shoe string) goes like this..
8 to 12 yrs old the kodak ektra 110..
12 to 19 the zenith em
18 to 24 a nikon 301
24 to 27 a nikon f3 n hassleblad
and then.. my editor at a magazine told me i had to upgrade since they ‘could not use’ someone who shot with the ‘best of the last decade’.. so i got an f5.. switched OFF the autofocus.. only ever used it on manual, pre-focused… set it up just as my f3hp..
the f5 is knackered now, so i got a knackered eos 1n to see if i could get around a canon.. it’s okay.. like it.. easy to clean :)
now i need to shoot digital for ‘them’..
well.. okay.. i can do that.. i can put my right leg behind my head as well.. but i don’t like it.
DAH – the d70.. d70s is a good lump.. used it once before on loan..
i need to buy really and am no snob.. just want the best possible files for meager budget..
d2x on loan would be great fun..
fact is, i just don’t want to give up what i love.. so have been looking at bulk film loaders on ebay :o)
okay – bored myself now..
sorry..
CIVILIAN
they saw fit to send me to ibiza for a week instead..
memories memories..
email me in any case – of course.. david@bophoto.co.uk
x
David A, David B
I use Canon 5d and 1ds cameras for work, but my camera of choice for personal work is a Canon Rebel XS, their “entry” dslr. Under $500 with the very sharp, image stabilized (but slow) kit lens. I can carry it around all day without getting a groove in my shoulder. And yes David, love that pop-up flash. Sometimes I use the kit lens, more often I just take the little 28mm 2.8.
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OK, OK, no more gear talk.