times and timing…

i have been suggesting recently that it might be easier for discussion here if all comments came under Dialogue…this seems to be the right time to give it a try….as with all things, it is timing, timing and timing….

when i read Laura El Tantawy’s comment under the Chiara Tocci “selected single”, it seemed perhaps this was the right time to publish her essay “Fervent Spirits” which has been “sitting on my desk” now for awhile….i have closed  comments directly under her essay , but i am wishing that  it works for all of you to simply comment on Laura’s essay right here, and comment on the two singles by Chiara Tocci and Stephen Burrows in the context of a “whole”….after all, they seem quite related….

certainly history and the results of history play into everything we do and all that we believe to be true….truth is the mantra of journalists, but i think we can see clearly that there are many ways to unlock our minds and our vision and  to accept the myriad of styles and juxtapositions a photographer might employ to get to the meat of history via the present….

we are bombarded daily with news…”breaking news”…pretty hard to keep up….television does not give us much time to think things through despite the incredible advantage of being in the NOW…however, our “stills”craft does allow for reflection….this is not to take away at all from those who devote their lives to bringing us daily knowledge of world events….journalists pay with their own blood almost everyday in this pursuit..but, here we have something else…a certain poignancy of  “behind the scenes”…..the results of history, the effects of politics and , of course, religious context  always (against it’s own will ) becomes embroiled in both…

my questions for you are  simple…..does “news” affect the way you think about history or do you prefer written “think pieces” to help you shape your thoughts??  is photography just in it’s infancy as a language and can it editorialize the way words do??  do photographs which exist only because of their historical context help us coalesce our collective conscience and “sensitize” us to help us move into a new day???

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  • I have just written a comment and it disappeared…

    All,

    Do you know CESURALAB? It’s a photographers collective, the art director is Alex Majoli.
    There are a good works and interesting concepts http://www.cesuralab.com/

    and I would love a t.shirt Burn!!! http://www.cesuralab.com/projects.php?p=31&pag=1

    all the best, audrey

  • A civilian-mass audience

    GOODMORNING FROM EUROPE

    Baby, please don’t go …civil , don’t leave this forum…yikes, yikes,yikes
    Oh, come on for crying out loud …
    I am just going to the bathroom…:)…or at least I”ll try:))

    KATIE my “sword tongue” I am on a mission,mission, commission.
    I will go for a while but you have to promise me that you will make this place a better …”kibbutz”:)
    I love the high quality of your writings.Mierda,F*&^#ing leaving…etc, etc.
    NOw , I know why DoAsHarvey did not offer YOU and PANOS a job as an editor…
    Thank you Plato …a wise move!!!
    Oime…what am I writing??
    To meet or not to mead to meat…to BURN…to burb…I got to go back to my ESL classes TODAY.

    MIKE wrote:
    “Civilian may be able to quote dead Greeks – but what are his diplomatic skills compared to yours?? Remember China? Laughing Panos, laughing.”
    Laughing no more.Mierda, mierda.You with your love festing Irish talk.I HAVE QUOTE SO MANY and now I am gonna quote you…
    “No reply necessary “:)))
    YOU KNOW MIKE R. I COUNT ON YOU and I am Blowing kisses to…your white chicks…!!!

    MY GRACIE ,
    I don’t worry about you, you are the heart, you are the soul ,you are the music on the roll
    NIAHHHH !!! PSSSt.check what Smart ass Kathleen did today . She gave out the secret code. How smart this can be? I LOVE YOU KATIE, MY GRACIE…I LOVE YOU ALL. I am glad I had the chance to got to know you all
    “Here and There”.

    To the Fonseca Family,
    You have a ruby ,a gemstone. Please, cherish it (kind a raw though) KAT’S MOM from now on I wish you only tears from happiness. I might make a key for you too.

    As I have promised I will post later today my Philosophers posting.
    And as I promised ALL of you, YOU have a house in Greece, maybe Plato will stay at the hotel:))))

    CIVILIANS OF THE WORLD
    BURN IS making HISTORY and enough with the talking …GO out and BUY some BURB books …
    LET’S support our ARTISTS…Let’s support History…because History is happening NOW…

  • A civilian-mass audience

    ANTON.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHERE are you going? ANTON!!!!

    BURN MAGAZINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    FROM MY BOTTOM of my HEART. THANK YOU and GOOD LUCK ~~~ We are sending may good energy ~~~
    PLATO you are such a great man. Oime too much kiss and tell today …YIKES.

  • A civilian-mass audience

    TO ALL
    Please, be careful tomorrow.Anton, they might need you here.

    Beware Conficker worm come April 1
    http://forums.gamesforwindows.com/t/3079.aspx

    just to let you know…

  • A civilian-mass audience

    TO ALL
    Edith Piaf – Non, je ne regrette rien (1961)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFRuLFR91e4

    No! Absolutely nothing…
    No! I regret nothing
    Neither the good that I’ve done nor the bad
    All this is much the same to me!

    No! Absolutely nothing…
    No! I regret nothing…
    It is paid, swept away, forgotten
    I don’t care about the past!

    With my souvenirs
    I LIT A FIRE
    My sorrows, my pleasures
    I need them no more!

    Swept away the love affairs
    With their tremors
    Swept away forever
    I leave with nothing …

    No! Absolutely nothing…
    No! I regret nothing
    Neither the good that I’ve done nor the bad
    All this is much the same to me!

    No! Absolutely nothing…
    No! I regret nothing…
    Because my life, because my joys
    Today that begins with you!

    TODAY THAT BEGINS WITH BURN

  • CIVILIAN…

    Anton is going on the adventure of his life….but he is not leaving us all alone here with only me to try to handle the tech stuff (i am a disaster at tech)..in the last three months he and i have managed to almost never be in the same country at the same time…so, technology rules!!! Anton rules!! i am still developing film….

    now now now…you referred to “kibbutz”…the nickname of my apartment building….our BURN building….coincidence????

    hmmmmmmm……

    cheers, david

  • no, civilian is NOT me….she (her words) is she….i am i…

    tired

    sorry
    bb

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    Mr.Harvey,

    I hope that at least,my baby Anton got a decent paycheck before he left your “kibbutz” place…
    BUT,I have to admit something here…

    I don’t know you or any of you people, I have never met you or anyone else.I have seen your works, your burb books ,I have visited galleries and I buy lots of books …which I give them to friends …which that means I got no books , or no?
    Let’s be serious though. I love the word “kibbutz” because it gives me a full taste in my mouth!!
    Please, everyone try to say Mpompota or kebab or moustalevria or laxanontolmadakia or patatokeftedes …

    How does it fell…A!!! Now we are talking:)))

    P.S PLease,don’t distract me 12 hours left

  • A civilian-mass audience

    MAYBE I am ANTON

    :((((((I wish …
    I LOVE YOU BOBBY too…kisses to my family… You will have the junior suite!!

    Bugs

  • A civilian-mass audience

    MY APOLOGIES …DEAREST MR>HARVEY,

    I meant to say : PLEASE DISTRACT ME

    my ouzo interferes with my writing.

  • CIVILIAN…

    nice paycheck??? from whom??? who has the dinero?? do you see any source of income whatsoever from this site??? we pay, we do not get paid….however, we do reap great rewards……

    cheers, david

  • A civilian-mass audience

    You are so right…!!!Damned

    ok,senior,I got it . AT least we got to reap something , how fortune we are:))))

    Bugs to you

    P.S Maybe donation box, buy some cool t-shirts, eco bags, worldwide BURN cafes….

    NIAHHHHHHHHHHH!!! We got two cents and the circle of philosophers and a house in greece…

    WHAT ELSE DO WE WANT…Are you dunno??

  • A civilian-mass audience

    F^%$K WE GOT OUZO TOO!!!LOT”S OF OUZO!!!!

  • the truth is that, as of april 1st, Civilian will finally reveal herself/himself…and as the moments scattered like broken teeth across a linoleum floor, Civilian gets more erradic….awaiting the deadline, that apocolyptic deadline that seems to me startling all the photographers of the world at the moment (Skinner would have been salivating), as the EPG approaches like a Black Sun…

    BUT, i have discovered who Civilian is…and no, he/she aint Me, nor Panos or Harvey….he/sht is

    DR. MANHATTAN!

    http://sanseverything.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/dr20manhattan203.jpg

    (for those who haven’t read the graphic materpiece WATCHMEN, u can watch the flick)…

    wobbling
    running
    bb

  • A civilian-mass audience

    DR.MANHATTAN
    “Gibbons wanted to tastefully depict Manhattan’s nudity, selecting carefully when full frontal shots would occur and giving him “understated” genitals — like a classical sculpture — so the reader would not initially notice it.[7]” wikii

    Bobby, big puffy pipi for me.
    Marina you better take him away from the computer. He sounds like he needs a walk, fresh air something.

    Two cents and one euro for you, Bobby…Nice try 0)))

  • i think ‘civilian’ is in fact penge, in the london borough of bromley..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penge
    :o)
    david

  • A civilian-mass audience

    DAVID B,

    Welcome back .

    PENGE ,”edge of wood”?? what are smoking dunno???
    If it wasn’t for Beate and Tor Capa you should stay along with Plato in the hotel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • A civilian-mass audience

    DoAsHarvey wrote:

    “dead celebrity apparel vs. living victim apparel …….with neither person “there”….
    ouaouaou.

    Sorry Plato ,
    I was distracting them.From now on they will be more focused .

  • Civilian Done Enough For Now:

    I just nodded when i read your job orders for Katie (a name i always loved and few ever called me..*soft*). Ok, i will try. Yeah, me and Panos, our potty mouths..i don’t talk like that in real life, i just think like that. Too much soap washing my mouth out at the hands of my Irish mom who i hope shall only ever cry in happiness.

    You know, i just gotta say this..no, i never just have to say this, i always have to say more than anyone wants/needs to hear..for a time, i was only ‘here’ when i was here at all. With you and Gracie. During the late night Burn Edition. Skeleton crew we were too. Often it was only me cuz Gracie and you were zzzzzzzz. And i would scan negs and read both of your musical posts, trading vowels and sounds, like little bird chirps in the tree, making the kind of sense only you and she could understand. But it was a low time for me and the sounds you traded gave me solace. So now you are off to the bathroom, swapping ouzo for toilet paper (read paycheck)..ok, ok, i promise to try to live up to your expectations though i have my doubts. And you, no weepy words from me, just standing here in the doorway, one hand lifted, open palm facing the 24k Greek sunlight, not even waving, just nodding..till we meet again, dear one..for it shall happen. Travel safe and wisely. Invest yourself completely in whatever you do. Keep buying/giving books. Think of us as we shall think of you and be ohhhhh so Civil and Happy.

    And yes, haha, Panos and i well, we will never be editors..loose cannons yes, editors no. We are moreover the bane of editors. The anti-editor. The un-editor. The editor not. But Panos far, far outclasses me with his explosive brilliance..pow-pow..positively takes the breath away. Bless that man’s spontaneous whiplash.

    i won’t be here later when the sand will have run out so i am saying my toodle-oo now.

    In Spanish (at least here in CR), we don’t say adios. It’s too permanent. We say Hasta Luego.

    so hasta luego, mi querido Civilian

    kat-cry-anymore

  • Mike R..

    You are oh sooooo welcome..

    best
    kathie

  • Kathleen

    thank you for the fuller story..you tell it perfectly, and I can feel your dad when he sees your mom for the first time and gets off the bus..

    I don’t follow why my reaction to your mom and Helen’s work is surprising..I rarely hear of anyone being so touched by photographs, but Helen gave your mom something real. The thought that my work could do the same is fairly profound, and it is an encouraging possibility to be able to touch someone that way through photography. I agree to you that it is important that we record what is in front of us for the next generation to the best of our ability, but this isn’t why the rise to be a photographer stirs in me. I have always felt the pull between art for art’s sake and art for a more clearly defined ’cause’..and my ‘semi-tortured’ status comes from that..in that I question the import of what I am doing at times if it isn’t linked to some greater good. Solution seems fairly straight forward, I just need to make it happen.

  • A civilian-mass audience

    TO MY KAT-NO CRY-ANYMORE…

    I will definitely gonna upgrade your room to a junior suite (Greece)
    You KATIE FONSECA have earned this BUT …
    (with me there is always a but…)

    YOU will have to share the room with Gracie…

    KISSES,HUGS,PEACE,LIGHTS ON, OFF,

    whatever you call it
    Cheerios!!!!

  • A civilian-mass audience

    “I myself always want more friends. I love smiles. Many smiles produce no feeling of satisfaction, and sometimes they can even create suspicion or fear, can?t they?
    But a genuine smile really gives us a feeling of freshness and is, I believe, unique to human beings. If these are the smiles we want, then we ourselves must create the reasons for them to appear…
    If you have a sincere and open heart, you naturally feel self- worth and confidence, and there is no need to be fearful of others…
    I try to treat whoever I meet as an old friend. This gives me a genuine feeling of happiness.”

    HIS HOLINESS
    THE 14TH DALAI LAMA

    “Since we cannot change reality, let us change the eyes which see reality.” To the photographers
    Nikos Kazantzakis quote

    “I hope for nothing. I fear nothing. I am free.” TO ALL
    Nikos Kazantzakis quote

    P.S I WILL BE BACK WITH YOUR KEYS…MY PROMISE…KEEP BURNING F&^%*ING BURNIANS…
    I am taking my Argus C3,my brick, my lunchbox and I am out of here!

    I LOVE YOU ALL
    A CIVILIAN- MASS AUDIENCE
    a non photographer

  • A civilian-mass audience

    My thanks to all of you.You that you gave us “voice”, you that dedicate youself to “us”.
    “LOVE, PEACE & PHOTOGRAPHY” will prevail…

    This post is dedicated to all of you philosophers, civilians… we are all citizens of the world.

    THE PHILOSOPHERS:

    PATRICIA LAY- DORSEY AS Arete of Cyrene
    Sappho AS KATHLEEN fonseca
    KATIA ROBERTS AS Axiothea of Philius
    KATHLEEN FONSECA AS Sappho
    LAURA EL-TANTAWY AS Hypatia of Alexandria
    LISA LOGHEN AS Theano of Thurii
    JENNY LUNM WALKER AS Aristoclea
    KATHARINA AS Hipparchia the Cynic
    KERRY PAYNE AS Asclepigenia
    ERICA MACDONALD AS Sosipatra
    SOFIA QUINTAS AS Aedesia
    GINA MARTIN AS Themista of Labascus
    CATHY SCHOLL AS Nicarete of Megara
    CARRIE ROSEMAN AS Damo of Crotona
    GRACIE KIM AS Lastheneia of Mantinea
    LISA WILTSE AS Phintys
    ANDREY BARDOU AS Philaenis
    VALERY RIZZO AS Batis of Lampsacus
    MY GRACIE AS Leontion

    DAVID ALAN HARVEY AS PLATO
    MR.HARVEY’S MOTHER AS SOCRATES
    JAMES NACHTWEY AS Aristoteles
    ANTON AS Apollonius
    JOHN VINK AS Epicurus
    STEVE MC CURRY AS Democritus
    BRUCE GILDEN AS Chaerephon
    N.ECONOMOPOULOS(GR) AS Pericles
    AKAKY AS Aristophanes
    BOB BLACK AS Homer
    PANOS SKOULIDAS AS Protagoras
    CHARLES PETERSON AS Antisthenes
    HAIK AS Herodotus
    RAFAL AS Xenophon
    ASHER AS Ashchylus
    PRESTON MERCHANT AS Sophocles
    TOM HYDE AS Euripides
    MARCIN AS Xenocrates
    JOE AS Parmenides
    CHRIS BICKFORD AS Phidias the painter
    MIKE HALMINSKI AS Aristippus
    LANCE ROSENFIELD AS Gorgias
    CHARLIE MAHONEY AS Themistocles
    PETE MAROVICH AS Heraclitus
    LASSAL AS Thales of Miletus
    HERVE AS Phaedo of Elis
    MIKE R AS Nicomachus the painter
    REIMAR OTT AS Aristoxenus
    YOUNG TOM AS Eubulides of Miletus
    JIM POWERS AS Pyrro of Ellis
    ROSS GORDON AS Theodorus the Atheist
    STUPID PHOTOGRAPHER AS Eurytus
    DAVID BOWEN AS Arcesilaus
    ERIC ESPINOSA AS Dionysius of Chalcedon
    JOHN CLADDY AS Asclepiades of Elis
    JONATHAN H AS Dicaearchus
    JONATHAN JK AS Pherecydes of Syros
    ANDREW SULLIVAN AS Heraclides the Ponticus
    SIDNEY ATKINS AS Athenaeus
    DAVID MCGOWAN AS Thucydide
    ROSS NOLLY AS Diodorus Cronus
    JAMES CHANCE AS Aeshines Socraticus
    MARTIN BRINK AS Hippias of Elis
    PAUL TREACY AS Ion of Chios
    MIKE BERUDE AS Euphraeus
    ZISKAR AS Theophrastus
    STELIOS AS Diogenes of Sinope
    BEN ROBERTS AS Zeno of Citium
    KIRIL SUROV AS Inopedes
    KYUNGHEE-LEE AS Posidonius of Apamea
    IAN AITKEN AS Prodicus oF Ceos
    ROBERT JOHNSON AS Melissus of Samos
    MICHAEL KIRTCHER AS Autolycus of Pitane
    JONI KARANKA AS Eudoxus of Cnidus
    GORDON LAFLEUR AS Phanias of Eresus
    AUGUST KRYKGER AS Anaxagoras
    CHRIS HINKLE AS Strato of lampsacus
    MEDFORD TAYLOR AS Cratylus
    MICHAEL C. BROWN AS Clinomachus
    ANTON KUSTERS AS Alcmaeon of Croton
    DAVID DUCHEMIN AS Philolaus
    MATT ROBINSON AS Demetrius of Amphipolis
    MARK TOMALTY AS Charmadas
    JEREMY WADE SHOCKLEY AS Clearchus of Soli
    MATT MCLNNIS AS Leucipus
    VICTOR COBO AS Nausiphanes
    CARY CONOVER AS Metrocles
    MUSTAFAH ABDULAZIZ AS Antipater of Cyrene
    AISLINN LEGGETT AS Crantor
    ANGELO GUARRACINO AS Timon of Phlius
    JAN SOCHOR AS Philiscus of Aegina
    JOHN LANGMORE AS Hegesias
    JASON HOUGE AS Alcidamas
    JASON HOBBS AS Philonides of Laodicea
    TIM RIPLEY AS Carneades
    KURT LENGFIELD AS Cercidas
    RAOUL TOUZON AS Bion of Borysthenes
    GIOVANNI COCCO AS Simmias of Thebes
    MIGUELO FERNANDES AS Hecataeus of Teos
    MICHAEL HASSOUN AS Menedemus
    BRUNO QUINQUET AS Aspasius
    STEFAN ROHNER AS Aenesidemus
    JUSTIN PARTYKA AS Hermippus of Smyrna
    WROBERTANGEL AS Philo of Larissa
    ANDREW B AS Agrippa the Sceptic
    ANDREW WISE AS Acrion
    JAN SMITH AS Crates of Thebes
    BRIAN SHUMWAY AS Lycurgus of Athens
    JARED IORIO AS Timon of Philius
    ABELE GUARENGA AS Aristo of Ceos
    SUBDRAJIT BASUL AS Solon the Athenian
    SPACE COWBOY AS Helios

    Emerging Philosophers:

    EXTRAS

    DIMA BLACK AS Heniokhos (Charioteer of Delphi)
    FELIX ( the baby) AS Bellerophon
    BRIGIT (SUGAR) AS Philomela
    TOR CAPA AS Erichthonios
    THE DARK KIDS AS the Eumenides

    In memory of Andrew Wyeth (July 1917 – January 2009)

    -David Alan Harvey wrote:
    “in my mind now i see Andy as a young boy, running across those farm fields he loved… hmmmm,
    is Andy really gone, or is he just playing a trick on us and hiding in the barn???”

    LOVE U ALL
    your Civilian-mass audience!!!
    Hasta

  • Our very own Srinivas Kuruganti is featured in the Winter 2008 / 2009 issue of Private (pronounced Pri-va-te).

    See http://www.privatephotoreview.com/en/index.php/ (Archives, last issue). Congratulations Srinivas!

    The latest issue showcases the work of the photo agency Noor – so he is in good company.

    Best,

    Mike.

  • nailiviC:

    eybdoog
    xoxoxox

  • Gracie..

    ((hugZ))

    just think…we get to be roommates in the land of Civil Ians. cool. i get the window side..but you get the TV remote. Fair?

    kat~

  • savoring the possibility….
    you can have the window side… katie-cakes
    you can have the remote too.
    as long as i have all the sink.
    do you want me to bring you a pair of … earplugs?

  • Hey Gracie..

    sure is quiet around here now, huh? funny how music playing so softly in the background can fill an entire room while its sudden absence seems to suck the the very oxygen out of the air.

    earplugs, chica? heh…better a ball gag i think :)

    tiniest pictures, teentsiest words the slightest whisper..

    all are missed..

    yur bff
    kat~

  • i´m here.. chatting on skype with subrajit… connections spin away from this place sometimes..
    civilian is on a promise to return.. i hope so very much..

  • katie-cakes and david b,
    dontcha think civilian is taking a damned long time in the bathroom?
    might he need pills for that?
    hmmm, wondering if hes needin’ internet connections…
    to order some from canada…
    sure is quiet around here

  • *moonlit tumbleweed moves in screen-left, out of screen-right*
    ‘kathleen.. is that you?
    gracie.. it’s so dark in here..’

    civilian is still around i think.. he’s either going to quietly rejoin in another name or leap out of a dark corner shoting BOO with a broad grin just when we least expect it…

    he’s only just met TOR CAPA AS Erichthonios, and has left the poor baby at a loss for words..

    db

  • Daid B and Gracie

    Gracie, yer a funnykins fer sure..i was too busy missing Civilian to remember he was just going to the bathroom. Internet connections, pills, haha, you really made me laugh right out loud this morning and what a gray and sullen morning it is too. The air does not move in the garden, the leaves do not tremble, the palm fronds are silent, they do not bow low and scrape one another, tropical petals bright as a Jackson Pollack palette sag listlessly. Nothing drops to the ground with one last sigh of relief, despair or surrender. The only thing moving are the fat bottomed joggers who plod heavily by, hunched into the chill stillness as if shouldering a very big burden. Or the man who walks, his chin tucked into his chest, massive biceps pumping heavy free weights up and down. i fear for his rotator cuffs. Like he needs bigger arms. For what? To push a pencil across a government desk while daydreaming about the chica in the next cubicle? Do you think she even notices those biceps? Does he even notice Pollack´s petals? Both unlikely.

    Civilian, since you are not here to get my daily cuppa cuppa fresh air, inhaled straight from your cheerful, gentle, sometimes tinged with a classic Greek melancholy delivery and always served up with grace and flair and sometimes spiced with a lil snatch of song, then i give you a Costa Rican morning tableau. Can you see it from way-way-waaaaay-over-there?

    David B, if he promised then he will return. It is so nice of you to voice your esperanza, sending a wee vibration into the ether that he might pick up, and Gracie, he/she is right now smiling in his/her/mutant ninja peaceful slumber as he (too lazy to include all possible gender) watches the curly blond head of Leontoin bobbing in and out of the essays and featured photos, imparting her subtle observations and gentle encouragement to one and all.

    i am off, much to do, and it´s all good.

    may ALL have a wonderful day or evening..wherever you happen to be.

    kathleen as sappho

  • David B..

    You posted as i was writing..you are now Special-D to me. Anyone who calls Civilian a friend is a friend of mine. And yer funny too..BOO..i like that thought, my little inner child hands are clapping in glee.

    Mr. Dunno, have a wonderfully civil day wherever you happen to be!

    best..
    kathie

  • i am david and i am 8 years old.
    i have been for 36 years now.. is 8 the idea age? no selfconciousness and teh ability and will to run very very fast round in tight little cicles just for the fun of it?
    yes.. i am 8 years old.. 8 and 1/2 actually.

    special D sounds like a potion…
    d

  • Funny, I would have bet she was a Magnum photographer, maybe because I saw her NY pictures at the HCB gallery last spring. In any case, I think Helen Levitt was close to many photographers heart on BURN. Here was and is someone we can always learn from, looking at her pictures.

    95YO, what a grand age to attain!

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123853773721375387.html

  • A civilian-mass audience

    BOOOOOOOOOOO HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    I miss you all so much.NOW, i am transmitting from a prohibited area…but I am a civilian after all.
    I am here everyday, I breath next to you…KEEP BURNING

    Dearest KATIE FONSECA,
    You promised that you will make this place a better “kibbutz”. And what have you done?
    NOTHING.
    You are talking with Davidb about your special D.Is that a bra size?…Oime!You offer help to fellow philosophers…I see..That means that you have a BIG heart too…Miss u much .Your key is done…

    Dearest DAVIDB,
    Please ,don’t bring the precious baby TOR CAPA in this “place”. At least , not yet…
    By the way, YES, you are 8 years old and it shows…Beate I count on you…Key ready.

    Dearest My GRACIE,
    You wrote: ” these people are good people at burn”.
    We will find out pretty soon, when the lights are on and we will hear:
    “AND THE OSCAR GOES TO…” I don’t wanna know.
    Looking good My Blondie. CHECK IN with babie katie, key is ready.

    Dearest PLATO,
    wrote: “come and play” .We don’t know his bra size but his heart is BIG too..
    “photographers who really need help can always get it from me by just buying me a beer…”

    What about ouzo? Can I buy ouzo? I am a beginner philosopher…
    PLATO What are you drinking? Key is awaiting moderation…Bugs

    NO NEED TO REPLY..

    But I have faith in the human race and I have faith in all of you…
    I am breathing next to you…GOT to go…3 min…Coming back soonest

    Making keys…

  • A civilian-mass audience

    One sec left.

    audrey bardou is my sister and we have the same parents. Don’t they look lovely…Maybe Herve and Panos can come over too…for a coffee…LOVE U ALLLLLLLLL

  • Of course, with great pleasure. We’ll hope to see you soon.

    your sister, audrey

  • civilian
    TOR CAPA AS Erichthonios is delighted.. he’s kicking his feet to james brown on this bright spring saturday.. next up.. squarepusher.. he cannot wait.. it’s his 6 (month) birthday this week.. he’s going to get a baby bouncer and some dancing shoes..

    you remain a thick slice of enigma, rolled in a puzzle and presenmted in the window of a riddle shop.

    david

  • ALL…
    good news……….
    just published………… 10 minutes ago…..
    literally…..
    new book …….. about Tony…… “Jim Morrison” & the Doors……
    or should i say “PEACE FROG”????????

    http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/629817?utm_source=TellAFriend&utm_medium=email&utm_content=629817

  • congrats, Panos!!

  • Protagoras(panos)

    Mike P..
    Thank you
    Thank you
    Thank you
    :))))!

  • Panos

    Congratulations, how exciting! You are a working m-f-c-k-r! Looks like this was fun to shoot..you do so well with mind-boggling slighting conditions! Oh yeah, the first concert i ever went to was Jim Morrison and the Doors in Asbury Park, NJ. I was standing at the light on this very hot end of summer day. It was Labor Day weekend. i was 17. i was shielding my eyes from the sun, trying to see when the light turned green. The Convention Center was behind me. An already very old building on the boardwalk. I had just spent the previous two hours sneaking in and wandering these dilapidated dressing rooms and had found a lot of very old Life magazine issues..it was a very spooky place..anyway, there i was at the light and this limo pulled up right in front of me..”Doors” written in very large letters on the side. The windows were black. But for that moment i stood right next to him..seperated by a little bit of sheet metal and tinted glass from my idol.

    Two days ago VP Joe Biden passed me as i sat in a traffic jam in CR. It was the same kind of moment for me, just an eon or so later.

    Makes one stop and think and smile at the passage of time and the changes. What matters in the long run, what burns like a comet and fades into dust.

    Congratulations on your book, Panos

    *respectful nod*

    Civilian..

    (wo)man(mutant ninja), you’re a sight for sore eyes. I know, i know. i promised to make this a better Kibbutz but when you left the (hot) air just kinda went out of me. I will try harder.

    Special-D, LOL…no not my bra size or a special potion..it was a play on the sound of Specialty but guess it didn’t translate well. Still, i like David D’s poetic and comic qualities. He combines them well, don’t you think? And he’s also magnanimous..so he’s still special-d to me.

    miss you muchissiissimo..hope my key doesn’t rust when you water your geraniums..geez..my eloquence has long since departed. Suffice it to say i hope you’re well and all that happy stuff. Thanks for stopping by. There’s nobody like you.

    kathleen

  • correction: mind boggling lighting conditions.

  • panos(protagoras)

    Kathleen..
    Thank U
    Thank U… Wink!!!

    Civilian..
    & Gracie..
    Also thank U..
    I will safely drive my mustang horsie
    up to Frisco ..
    Off for a family drive in 10 minutes…
    Morning y’all..
    Leaving Ugly San Jose now..
    I’m happy just for that..
    :))))
    Big hug

  • A civilian-mass audience

    My thanks to all of you.You that you gave us “voice”, you that dedicate yourself to “us”.
    “LOVE, PEACE & PHOTOGRAPHY” will prevail…

    This post is dedicated to all of you philosophers, civilians… we are all citizens of the world.

    THE PHILOSOPHERS:

    PATRICIA LAY- DORSEY AS Arete of Cyrene
    KATHLEEN FONSECA AS Sappho
    ANNE HENNING AS Agnodice
    KATIA ROBERTS AS Axiothea of Philius
    LAURA EL-TANTAWY AS Hypatia of Alexandria
    LISA LOGHEN AS Theano of Thurii
    JENNY LUNM WALKER AS Aristoclea
    KATHARINA AS Hipparchia the Cynic
    KERRY PAYNE AS Asclepigenia
    ERICA MACDONALD AS Sosipatra
    SOFIA QUINTAS AS Aedesia
    GINA MARTIN AS Themista of Labascus
    CATHY SCHOLL AS Nicarete of Megara
    CARRIE ROSEMAN AS Damo of Crotona
    GRACIE KIM AS Lastheneia of Mantinea
    LISA WILTSE AS Phintys
    ANDREY BARDOU AS Philaenis
    VALERY RIZZO AS Batis of Lampsacus
    LASSAL AS Aglaonike
    MY GRACIE AS Leontion

    DAVID ALAN HARVEY AS PLATO
    MR.HARVEY’S MOTHER AS SOCRATES
    JAMES NACHTWEY AS Aristoteles
    ANTON AS Apollonius
    JOHN VINK AS Epicurus
    STEVE MC CURRY AS Democritus
    BRUCE GILDEN AS Chaerephon
    N.ECONOMOPOULOS(GR) AS Pericles
    AKAKY AS Aristophanes
    BOB BLACK AS Homer
    PANOS SKOULIDAS AS Protagoras
    CHARLES PETERSON AS Antisthenes
    HAIK AS Herodotus
    RAFAL AS Xenophon
    ASHER AS Ashchylus
    PRESTON MERCHANT AS Sophocles
    TOM HYDE AS Euripides
    MARCIN AS Xenocrates
    JOE AS Parmenides
    CHRIS BICKFORD AS Phidias the painter
    MIKE HALMINSKI AS Aristippus
    LANCE ROSENFIELD AS Gorgias
    CHARLIE MAHONEY AS Themistocles
    PETE MAROVICH AS Heraclitus
    HERVE AS Phaedo of Elis
    MIKE R AS Nicomachus the painter
    REIMAR OTT AS Aristoxenus
    YOUNG TOM AS Eubulides of Miletus
    JIM POWERS AS Pyrro of Ellis
    ROSS GORDON AS Theodorus the Atheist
    STUPID PHOTOGRAPHER AS Eurytus
    DAVID BOWEN AS Arcesilaus
    ERIC ESPINOSA AS Dionysius of Chalcedon
    JOHN CLADDY AS Asclepiades of Elis
    JONATHAN H AS Dicaearchus
    JONATHAN JK AS Pherecydes of Syros
    ANDREW SULLIVAN AS Heraclides the Ponticus
    SIDNEY ATKINS AS Athenaeus
    DAVID MCGOWAN AS Thucydide
    ROSS NOLLY AS Diodorus Cronus
    JAMES CHANCE AS Aeshines Socraticus
    MARTIN BRINK AS Hippias of Elis
    PAUL TREACY AS Ion of Chios
    MIKE BERUDE AS Euphraeus
    ZISKAR AS Theophrastus
    STELIOS AS Diogenes of Sinope
    BEN ROBERTS AS Zeno of Citium
    KIRIL SUROV AS Inopedes
    KYUNGHEE-LEE AS Posidonius of Apamea
    IAN AITKEN AS Prodicus oF Ceos
    ROBERT JOHNSON AS Melissus of Samos
    MICHAEL KIRTCHER AS Autolycus of Pitane
    JONI KARANKA AS Eudoxus of Cnidus
    GORDON LAFLEUR AS Phanias of Eresus
    AUGUST KRYKGER AS Anaxagoras
    CHRIS HINKLE AS Strato of lampsacus
    MEDFORD TAYLOR AS Cratylus
    MICHAEL C. BROWN AS Clinomachus
    ANTON KUSTERS AS Alcmaeon of Croton
    DAVID DUCHEMIN AS Philolaus
    MATT ROBINSON AS Demetrius of Amphipolis
    MARK TOMALTY AS Charmadas
    JEREMY WADE SHOCKLEY AS Clearchus of Soli
    MATT MCLNNIS AS Leucipus
    VICTOR COBO AS Nausiphanes
    CARY CONOVER AS Metrocles
    MUSTAFAH ABDULAZIZ AS Antipater of Cyrene
    AISLINN LEGGETT AS Crantor
    ANGELO GUARRACINO AS Timon of Phlius
    JAN SOCHOR AS Philiscus of Aegina
    JOHN LANGMORE AS Hegesias
    JASON HOUGE AS Alcidamas
    JASON HOBBS AS Philonides of Laodicea
    TIM RIPLEY AS Carneades
    KURT LENGFIELD AS Cercidas
    RAOUL TOUZON AS Bion of Borysthenes
    GIOVANNI COCCO AS Simmias of Thebes
    MIGUELO FERNANDES AS Hecataeus of Teos
    MICHAEL HASSOUN AS Menedemus
    BRUNO QUINQUET AS Aspasius
    STEFAN ROHNER AS Aenesidemus
    JUSTIN PARTYKA AS Hermippus of Smyrna
    WROBERTANGEL AS Philo of Larissa
    ANDREW B AS Agrippa the Sceptic
    ANDREW WISE AS Acrion
    JAN SMITH AS Crates of Thebes
    BRIAN SHUMWAY AS Lycurgus of Athens
    JARED IORIO AS Timon of Philius
    ABELE GUARENGA AS Aristo of Ceos
    SUBDRAJIT BASUL AS Solon the Athenian
    SPACE COWBOY AS Helios

    Emerging Philosophers:

    EXTRAS

    DIMA BLACK AS Heniokhos (Charioteer of Delphi)
    FELIX ( the baby) AS Bellerophon
    BRIGIT (SUGAR) AS Philomela
    TOR CAPA AS Erichthonios
    THE DARK KIDS AS the Eumenides

    In memory of Andrew Wyeth (July 1917 – January 2009)

    -David Alan Harvey wrote:
    “in my mind now i see Andy as a young boy, running across those farm fields he loved… hmmmm,
    is Andy really gone, or is he just playing a trick on us and hiding in the barn???”

    LOVE U ALL
    your Civilian-mass audience!!!

    P.S I am still making keys…if you don’t see your name please inform the editor as soon as possible

  • Great article! I’m loving your website;

  • Thanks for sharing this article. Very interesting blog.

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