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By: Carlo https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/07/bieke-depoorter-i-am-about-to-call-it-a-day/#comment-111152 Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:34:19 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=11925#comment-111152 Dellicson,

you manage to read that but did not bother to read the rest?

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david alan harvey
July 18, 2012 at 7:57 am
MARCIN

yes, i felt very very good about this year’s nominees…well balanced…correction on the age of Bieke…she is 26 not 23….

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By: Frostfrog https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/07/bieke-depoorter-i-am-about-to-call-it-a-day/#comment-111128 Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:59:04 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=11925#comment-111128 I am back home on a clear liquid diet. Haven’t had a bite of solid food since Saturday morning and won’t get another for two days yet. I am taking a load of antibiotics in the hope it will clear up the abscesses and the third, emergency surgery, that I almost got subjected to Sunday will never be necessary. I am optimistic, but no guarantee and won’t know until after I get another CAT Scan Monday morning.

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By: dellicson https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/07/bieke-depoorter-i-am-about-to-call-it-a-day/#comment-111097 Mon, 23 Jul 2012 23:53:09 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=11925#comment-111097 Bieke is 25, almost 26 (on 29 August), not 23.

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By: andrew b. https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/07/bieke-depoorter-i-am-about-to-call-it-a-day/#comment-111089 Mon, 23 Jul 2012 13:25:57 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=11925#comment-111089 Ah, david, that was my question to Tom – I posted over in the other forum, which seems to have had no activity, and reposted here since it seems everyone was conversing in here (even thoguh it should be for biekes essay). That was me speaking to Tom, for the email. Sorry to confuse.

Indeed, no more kegs! Do want to talk with you about burn university – email or skype? Just a few questions and perhaps some ideas.

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By: david alan harvey https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/07/bieke-depoorter-i-am-about-to-call-it-a-day/#comment-111084 Mon, 23 Jul 2012 03:34:57 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=11925#comment-111084 ANDREW B

this is very strange when i get in a comment here from you under Bieke essay if i got an email from Tom Hyde or not!! pretty funny…well, the answer is no…but how in the world did Young Tom Hyde go to you to get to me? hmmmmmmm..anyway, have Tom send again please…i had some very weird problems with my email until two days ago..

BurnDiary and BurnUniversity coming up….

no more kegs!!!

cheers, david

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By: andrew b. https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/07/bieke-depoorter-i-am-about-to-call-it-a-day/#comment-111081 Mon, 23 Jul 2012 00:18:43 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=11925#comment-111081 Repost from over the in the “Burn Diary” thread, where I’m not sure anyone but CIVI saw it….

Not sure where the general party room is atm, seems like everyone’s over hangin’ talking about bieke’s essay…

Anyway….

TOM HYDE; sent an email for you, did you get it?

So what is everyone doing? CIVI, you haven’t been singing! Panos is posting videos (of course), Akaky waxed poetic on something (I have to go back and read it, although I did notice the a positive spin on health news and a new camera (and I got a GF1, are we related?).

BILL, glad you’re making it through – have been following your news, but not commenting much. Hopefully the positives build up a little more each day.

DAH – burn university? Also have a question for you, email or skype next week sometime?

and now the rainstorm has passed and the sun is going down, and I believe I’ll go play flaneur in my own city….after a glass of wine.

good light, all
a

Bill, read the blog, glad to hear it wasn’t as urgent as first thought, sending good thoughts, prayers, and karma your eway in hopes that everything is better soonest.

a,

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By: Imants https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/07/bieke-depoorter-i-am-about-to-call-it-a-day/#comment-111078 Sun, 22 Jul 2012 21:21:11 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=11925#comment-111078 Here in oz other than the 30,000 debt one of the major problems faced by the young is studio space with all the technologies that were available at art schools. This may be as simple as a nude model or as complex as a 3D printer depending on what one does. Sure technology hs opened new avenues that never existed but lage scale work is still costly to create. Hence we end up with lots of work in progress

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By: david alan harvey https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/07/bieke-depoorter-i-am-about-to-call-it-a-day/#comment-111077 Sun, 22 Jul 2012 18:36:26 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=11925#comment-111077 FROSTFROG

oh my…why “emergency”? will check your blog…all of us sending positive vibes of every kind in your direction….

MW PAUL

you both got it right

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By: Paul https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/07/bieke-depoorter-i-am-about-to-call-it-a-day/#comment-111070 Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:18:06 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=11925#comment-111070 I think it all comes down to how driven one is and of course being slightly unhinged throughout it all, just enough not to realize that most sane people would never try the creative arts as a career. Apart from the fact that it has to be such an utter acute compulsion driving you on never bailing out because we all know deep down that jump across the abyss when it’s successful is so utterly bewitching.

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By: Frostfrog https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/07/bieke-depoorter-i-am-about-to-call-it-a-day/#comment-111068 Sun, 22 Jul 2012 14:55:00 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=11925#comment-111068 Explanation can be found on my blog.

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By: Frostfrog https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/07/bieke-depoorter-i-am-about-to-call-it-a-day/#comment-111067 Sun, 22 Jul 2012 14:52:30 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=11925#comment-111067 I’m back in the hospital, waiting to go into emergency surgery number two, overall surgery number three. Have fun out there.

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By: mw https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/07/bieke-depoorter-i-am-about-to-call-it-a-day/#comment-111066 Sun, 22 Jul 2012 14:00:54 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=11925#comment-111066 Ah, the secret code. What mischief one could make. What laughs could be had. In an alternate universe anyway. Regarding NY, sure, I’d love to meet. Let’s chat details on Skype when convenient.

It’s great when artists can make money off their work, greater still when they can do it without compromise. Historically, that’s pretty rare, isn’t it? Certainly not the norm. The problem with having a position is too often having to maintain, if not defend it. Seems like the greatest are often a bit out of step with the times, their work unpopular because it’s different, so other ways of generating income are necessary. Just thinking of a few of my art heroes; Gauguin, Van Gogh, Henry Miller, William Faulkner, Mozart — they had patrons, took academic jobs, did film work, took on students and/or were constantly in debt. Of course there are always contemporaries to the greats making tons of money off their work alone. Some remembered, most largely forgotten. Salieri, for example, was financially far more successful than Mozart. Every era has its Danielle Steeles, Thomas Kinkades and the like raking it in while an unknown number of better artists do well to just get by. That’s not to say, of course, that every era is the same. Each has, no doubt, its own challenges. The biggest one I see for young people here in the U.S. these days is the student loan travesty. Student loans have effectively morphed into a system of indentured servitude. Forty thousand dollars is fairly typical debt for four years of college. No more taking a few years off and kicking around Europe after graduation and trying to find yourself as an artist, not unless daddy is a hedge fund manager. The pressure to compromise, to be popular, to get a serious job and make money is presumably more intense for those with mountains of debt with onerous interest charges.

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By: eva https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/07/bieke-depoorter-i-am-about-to-call-it-a-day/#comment-111065 Sun, 22 Jul 2012 13:41:11 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=11925#comment-111065 In some ways related to the above topic, makes for an interesting read:

http://www.david-campbell.org/2012/07/21/hipstamatic-angst-instagram-anxiety-time-to-move-the-conversation-forward/

(Jim, thanks for your answer.. I indeed was curious to know your thoughts about the book.. and if you got it.. )

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By: david alan harvey https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/07/bieke-depoorter-i-am-about-to-call-it-a-day/#comment-111064 Sun, 22 Jul 2012 12:58:18 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=11925#comment-111064 JIM ..

i agree totally….that IS the new model…or some variation thereof..you are correct, not everyone on their own will be up to it, nor be able to make that work…the nature of coops/agencies will have to change from distribution centers to production centers in every sense…

paypal does make many things possible…micropayments are fine if you have lots of them…the overhead to produce something of value for 10 people is exactly the same as it is to produce something for 1 million people…this is the beauty of the “new way”…wise use of social networking allows these numbers to become realities….if you build the field, they will come…

it will take the next generation to think about the “big picture” not just the “picture”…they will do it …they always do…

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By: Imants https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/07/bieke-depoorter-i-am-about-to-call-it-a-day/#comment-111063 Sun, 22 Jul 2012 12:40:45 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=11925#comment-111063 ………have a great show sells well but figure that it is a lie conceptually …………………..that was probably the worst part

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By: Imants https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/07/bieke-depoorter-i-am-about-to-call-it-a-day/#comment-111062 Sun, 22 Jul 2012 12:39:01 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=11925#comment-111062 that accounts for the good seven years as an artist

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By: Jim Powers https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/07/bieke-depoorter-i-am-about-to-call-it-a-day/#comment-111061 Sun, 22 Jul 2012 12:38:53 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=11925#comment-111061 David, I think the ultimate solution depends on the creation of a “new economy” for micro payments to creatives directly from those who actually want their stuff, like Mediastorm is trying to do with their $1.99 films. The problem is that most of us don’t have access to the technology that Mediastorm has put together to manage those payments. There is a business model for someone, perhaps Paypal, to more seamlessly make such a subscription system widely available on the web. The obstacle to this is the cost per transaction demanded by the processor. When you are talking about a couple of bucks per purchase, it doesn’t take much of a processing fee to make the concept unprofitable.

I really believe, though, that future success for creatives will involve selling directly to the consumer, in whatever form that takes.

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By: david alan harvey https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/07/bieke-depoorter-i-am-about-to-call-it-a-day/#comment-111060 Sun, 22 Jul 2012 12:36:32 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=11925#comment-111060 IMANTS

thank you ..got it…that is why i just spent the last hour in the garden…getting out a few weeds..of course i have found, by leaving some of the weeds alone, that beautiful blooms come off of some of these “weeds”…and the roses will cut the hell out of you….

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