Comments on: michael webster – brooklyn carnival https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2011/03/michael-webster-brooklyn-carnival/ burn is an online feature for emerging photographers worldwide. burn is curated by magnum photographer david alan harvey. Wed, 07 Sep 2016 08:31:03 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2.4 By: mw https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2011/03/michael-webster-brooklyn-carnival/#comment-113535 Wed, 10 Oct 2012 18:50:51 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=8803#comment-113535 Paul, sorry it’s taken so long for me to get back to you on this. But to answer your question, no, the comments here didn’t at all change my perspective on how I’d shoot the Brooklyn Carnival. I’m very open to criticism and appreciate it very much, but in this case, by the time it was published I’d already been working on it for many years and was committed to my approach. I did pretty much the exact same essay in 2011, and consider it to be the definitive take.

http://mwebphoto.photoshelter.com/gallery-slideshow/G0000YpAdV1dBQWM/C0000q4JPow_tBeI?start=

And thanks again to everyone for their consideration and comments.

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By: Saturday 12 March 2011 https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2011/03/michael-webster-brooklyn-carnival/#comment-89067 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 14:40:15 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=8803#comment-89067 […] Gachet: Tunupa’s Tears (Panos: March 2011) BoliviaFeatures and Essays – Michael Webster: Brooklyn Carnival (Burn: March 2011)Features and Essays – Finbarr O’Reilly: Looking Through Afghanistan’s […]

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By: Saturday 12 March 2011 « P H O T O J O U R N A L I S M L I N K S https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2011/03/michael-webster-brooklyn-carnival/#comment-88446 Tue, 05 Apr 2011 10:45:05 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=8803#comment-88446 […] and Essays – Michael Webster: Brooklyn Carnival (Burn: March […]

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By: Paul https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2011/03/michael-webster-brooklyn-carnival/#comment-87039 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 12:29:56 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=8803#comment-87039 mw…

Have the comments and views posted here changed your perspective and how you will document this Brooklyn Carnival in the future?

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By: sebastien VM https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2011/03/michael-webster-brooklyn-carnival/#comment-87036 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:55:27 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=8803#comment-87036 Harvey’s Style!

Nice work, nice lights! Instinctive and spontaneous!
Obviously burning!

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By: Framers Intent https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2011/03/michael-webster-brooklyn-carnival/#comment-86623 Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:25:13 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=8803#comment-86623 PAUL – just saw yours. We cross-posted!

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By: Framers Intent https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2011/03/michael-webster-brooklyn-carnival/#comment-86622 Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:24:44 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=8803#comment-86622 DAH and PANOS – *blushes* I hail from “the wrong side of the tracks” although, it being over ‘ere in Poor Ol’ Blighty guv’nor, that prob’ly means I’m still posh compared to you’s Yanks. Anyone need a chimney sweep? ;-P

It wasn’t so much a bar room brawl, more the start of handbags at dawn, but it was dragging away from Michael’s good work and discussing that too much, I felt. And it did seem to be just a misunderstanding over nothing.

Panos i I was always under the (perhaps quite mistaken) impression that the 420 was all about blunts? That’s probably why you didn’t know the L term. Yup. ;-)

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By: Paul https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2011/03/michael-webster-brooklyn-carnival/#comment-86621 Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:23:23 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=8803#comment-86621 The younger Spanish generation also refer to a joint as an “L” or as they pronounce it… “Ele”.

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By: panos skoulidas https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2011/03/michael-webster-brooklyn-carnival/#comment-86598 Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:52:41 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=8803#comment-86598 Hmmm… I haven’t heard about that “L” thing either..
Hmmm.. And I thought I knew everything, 420 regarding;)

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By: michael kircher https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2011/03/michael-webster-brooklyn-carnival/#comment-86597 Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:32:33 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=8803#comment-86597 Nor any heckling.

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By: david alan harvey https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2011/03/michael-webster-brooklyn-carnival/#comment-86584 Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:48:24 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=8803#comment-86584 FRAMERS INTENT

i did not know what an “L” was…or rather i had never heard that term..hmmmmmm…..and after a quick scan of comments i see no attacks..so did i miss a good bar room brawl or something? damn….

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By: michael webster https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2011/03/michael-webster-brooklyn-carnival/#comment-86583 Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:27:56 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=8803#comment-86583 Since you all decided to have your little flame war under my essay, guess I’ll throw in my opinion as well.

Burnblogfan, although I think it’s fair to question the accuracy of the content of your post about burn publishing proclivities, I see nothing wrong with your having made those observations, nor the manner in which you made them, and can see how you thought they were relevant to my essay. As far as I’m concerned (which is not far, I am not on staff), you are welcome to your anonymousness as long as you don’t use it to post personal attacks, which you haven’t and you don’t seem like the type who would. To me you seem thoughtful and well-educated about photography. I appreciate your consideration of my work, and I hope you stick around and continue commenting.

If Th-Th-Th-Th-Th-… That’s all, folks, thanks again. It’s been fun.

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By: Paul https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2011/03/michael-webster-brooklyn-carnival/#comment-86578 Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:36:52 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=8803#comment-86578 Burnblogfan…

I would agree with Framers Intent… you should stay and come out of the cupboard, but anyway that´s up to you isn’t it…
However I’ve got the feeling the expression “Cut your nose to spite your face”, suits you to a T.
Bye

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By: Framers Intent https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2011/03/michael-webster-brooklyn-carnival/#comment-86561 Mon, 14 Mar 2011 04:45:43 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=8803#comment-86561 Awww c’mon, bbf, stick around. I promise, it’s not all that bad. And Imants is just jumpy cos Imants wants to browse your work is all. I’m not saying we never disagree – as a regular reader you’ll know how hollow that rings, but there’s little maliciousness at play here, and I do think Imants’ request to see some of your work a pretty valid one (although I understand if you feel nervous about sharing, but at least just say that, if it’s the case). We’re all liable to get defensive about perceived attacks on Burn, because it is such a good and tightly knit community, and it just feels like something of a misunderstanding, but one that could be worked out. And I’m sure you’d have a unique personality and skill set to offer to the crowd if you stuck around. Like any family, we have our fallings out (and I know this to be true more than most, I suspect) but, for the most part, it’s done out of love. Love for BURN and all that it represents. So please, do stick around and keep commenting. And, when you feel up to it, share your work with us.

And if you and Imants do feel the need to keep beefing, maybe at least move it to a dialogue thread instead?

An “L” – so called for the pattern of the papers prior to rolling. (DAH & ‘crew’ – delete this if unsavoury for this site…please…no offence, I understand, hence my sly comment previously) An “L” is a doobie, a dutchie, a spliff, a draw, a joint, a rolled up smoke of herb.

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By: burnblogfan https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2011/03/michael-webster-brooklyn-carnival/#comment-86560 Mon, 14 Mar 2011 04:16:59 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=8803#comment-86560 Your sentiment is admirable, FI, and one reason I’ve been reading Burn since before it was burn, when it was Road Trips. I’ll continue to read and lurk and grab the bit of inspiration I find here now and then. But as a commenter, I’m outtahere.

I’ve not been anything but cool, and have responded to Imants prodding with nothing but restraint.

so consider me chilled… but… what is an “L?”

bbf out

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By: Framers Intent https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2011/03/michael-webster-brooklyn-carnival/#comment-86553 Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:26:51 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=8803#comment-86553 IMANTS and BURNBLOGFAN,

While not wanting to step into the fray here, can I ask the both of you to cool it? This seems a little overblown, and is certainly a distraction from MW’s work, which is what we should rightly be discussing in this thread. Both of you seem (to me) to be a little disrespectful to him in getting into it here.

IMANTS – I don’t think burnblogfan meant it as an insult, and DAH took it graciously and in good humour earlier in this thread. I think it was meant as something of a compliment, however nuanced in phrasing.

BURNBLOGFAN – I think Imants has a point. As internet communities go, this one is tiny (and perhaps the better for it, at least, it grows slowly but strongly, firmly, and that’s good). We’re all friends here, in the sense that Burnians generally know where/how to find other Burnians. Either through having discussed and swapped details and personal info, or through linking to e.g. our websites. I feel a bit slack on this point, as I am currently attempting (and failing quite spectacularly at) building my own website. But, as a commercial ‘tog, I’m guessing that you have one. Would it really hurt to post a link to it, and let people see your work? We’re all here to help each other. Aint no one gonna rag on your work just for being “commercial” (and the older I get, the less I know what that means…).

Anyway, is there any chance we could all swallow an olive branch? Or smoke a chill pill? Or at least share an L? ;-) Peace, guys. One luv.

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By: Imants https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2011/03/michael-webster-brooklyn-carnival/#comment-86552 Mon, 14 Mar 2011 00:31:20 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=8803#comment-86552 burnblogfan you cannot be attacked as a person ……………..remember you are not an individual just a name with no links to treality other than the wwwdot type

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By: Imants https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2011/03/michael-webster-brooklyn-carnival/#comment-86551 Mon, 14 Mar 2011 00:26:23 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=8803#comment-86551 You seem to have placed yourself above everyone here who post with links to real life

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By: Imants https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2011/03/michael-webster-brooklyn-carnival/#comment-86550 Mon, 14 Mar 2011 00:25:06 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=8803#comment-86550 burnblogfan all I am doing is attacking a non entity something that isn’t accountable for his/her whatever it is actions. For all we know you could be a bricklayer having some fun on the net. Being anonomous and making statements is hardly a positive attitude. If we all took your stand there would be no burn, no images, no accountable discussions. You seem to have placed yourself above everyone here he posts with links to real life

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By: michael webster https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2011/03/michael-webster-brooklyn-carnival/#comment-86545 Sun, 13 Mar 2011 21:35:18 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=8803#comment-86545 I trust most people here recognize the difference beteen a question and an attack. Personally, I don’t think I would have recognized J’ouvert as any relation to Mardi gras and I had definitely never seen anything like it. The kids in costume, sure. Just curious what others have seen?

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