Comments on: carl bower – chica barbie https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/10/carl-bower-chica-barbie/ burn is an online feature for emerging photographers worldwide. burn is curated by magnum photographer david alan harvey. Wed, 07 Sep 2016 08:29:47 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2.4 By: Carl Bower摄影作品:哥伦比亚选美 | 柒染 https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/10/carl-bower-chica-barbie/#comment-293427 Wed, 05 Mar 2014 10:42:06 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=4493#comment-293427 […] 这组作品名为《Chica Barbie》,展示了哥伦比亚选美大赛的过程,描绘了在贫困、犯罪盛行,经历连年内战的这个国度中,无数充满梦想的灰姑娘的人生浮沉。来源:[via] […]

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By: Carl Bower摄影作品:哥伦比亚选美 - PADMAG视觉杂志 https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/10/carl-bower-chica-barbie/#comment-293344 Wed, 05 Mar 2014 03:19:07 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=4493#comment-293344 […] 点击阅读全文可见该系列的更多图片。[via] […]

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By: carl bower - chica barbie | Photography for Jou... https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/10/carl-bower-chica-barbie/#comment-280221 Tue, 04 Feb 2014 18:03:35 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=4493#comment-280221 […] Hover over the image for navigation and full screen controls Carl Bower Chica Barbie play this essay The pageants of Colombia are a petri dish for examining the nature of beauty and how we c…  […]

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By: jbnightingale https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/10/carl-bower-chica-barbie/#comment-54608 Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:54:19 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=4493#comment-54608 This is what photojournalism is all about! I’m blown away, utterly blown away!

I never knew this little slice of the world existed till now, and now I feel like I’ve been there and witnessed it first hand. This essay is easily one of the best I’ve seen in a long time, thanks for sharing this with us!

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By: marikinski https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/10/carl-bower-chica-barbie/#comment-54220 Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:52:11 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=4493#comment-54220 I like the essey very much, congratulations. Images with soul !

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By: jenny lynn walker https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/10/carl-bower-chica-barbie/#comment-54205 Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:53:57 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=4493#comment-54205 Wow! Images that take your breath away! Some i will never forget, packed with atmosphere and so brilliantly composed and framed. But, I have to agree with Herve that I cannot see that the selection reflects the brilliant context in which they are portrayed in the accompanying text. I think the angles highlighted in the intro – the objectification of women within a specific culture and socio-political context – have not been addressed. Absolutely awesome, awesome essay, none the less! Congratulations!!!

Jenny

ps There was a time when the objectification of women, along much the same lines, was commonplace in many countries around the world. I am grateful that we have moved on in some countries in our times. May the fall of patriarchial systems that continue to dominate and objectify women continue. And may the documentation of it not simply an excuse to partake in it!!! ; )

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By: alexblackwelder https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/10/carl-bower-chica-barbie/#comment-54201 Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:00:18 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=4493#comment-54201 I don’t think a project has provoked such a response from the depth of my soul in a long time.

These images make me angry. I want to bust in , fists in the air, viva las chicas, we are more than THIS.

But how can I? The issue is so complex, how can I possibly know what it feels like to be these girls, growing up in these times?

The world is just too much sometimes,

Thanks Carl

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By: kathleen fonseca https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/10/carl-bower-chica-barbie/#comment-54134 Sun, 25 Oct 2009 05:07:46 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=4493#comment-54134 Rafal

I replied to you in Time Out.

Best
Kathleen

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By: bodo https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/10/carl-bower-chica-barbie/#comment-54102 Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:13:18 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=4493#comment-54102 Fabulous work no doubt. BRAVO for that. But I find the circumstances for the girls quite disturbing. Nobody is complaining doesn’t always mean that everything is fine.

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By: Rafal Pruszynski https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/10/carl-bower-chica-barbie/#comment-54098 Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:42:20 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=4493#comment-54098 Is there exploitation? Of course men exploit women, women also exploit men, and let’s not pretend the women here don’t do this by choice. You can say that women may have fewer opportunities but Id argue that they have more. What opportunities does the average Colombian male have to make any real mark in the world? He is born poor, he will die poor, overworked and ultimately disappointed by his life. Yes you can talk about exploitation but in many cases women are born with a ticket to success that men are not born with and they do leverage it to get what they want. Not just in Colombia, either. So for me, this essay is good photography but the thinking is very inside the box, cliche. We have seen victim photography, and this is very one sided. Women as sex objects handled by bad men. C’mon. It does nobody any good, not the women, not the men, its not a very realistic portrayal of the realities in my opinion as it totally misses the fundamental motivations of the women in these photos. The people are very flat, one dimensional, shallow and caricatures. This is the danger of going in with an agenda, you are blind to things that don’t fit your mental models and the baggage you brought along. As Herve said, PJ is about camera pointing, not finger pointing.

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By: Gui Galembeck https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/10/carl-bower-chica-barbie/#comment-54016 Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:43:12 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=4493#comment-54016 Superb! Number 3 tells all the story for me. Thanks Carl ! A masterpiece for sure.

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By: Lung Liu https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/10/carl-bower-chica-barbie/#comment-54007 Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:56:24 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=4493#comment-54007 Remarkable piece of work. Great storytelling, composition and timing.

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By: Mark W https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/10/carl-bower-chica-barbie/#comment-54000 Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:12:20 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=4493#comment-54000 … what everyone else said. This is compelling stuff.

Interesting how different commenters are hitting on different shots – you must be pressing a lot of different buttons. 12 is the best for me – the queen’s smile in what could be kind of a tense situation, and the way her trophy rhymes with the batons…

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By: fotocubas https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/10/carl-bower-chica-barbie/#comment-53998 Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:33:06 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=4493#comment-53998 Thanks for the clarification Carl. You put it very well: “It’s possible that she’s leveraging a situation to her advantage while perpetuating a mindset that may ultimately limit her opportunities”. I think that’s the key to the story, and the lack of options.

By quoting the tale I wasn’t judging the girls, but the situation. Of course I know that any misunderstanding is my fault for mixing literature with photojournalism. I know I shouldn’t look at this kind of photographs as symbols or metaphors (even if the pass of time could make them so), but as facts, real people with their very real circumstances. Yet sometimes is hard for me to refrain.

The more I watch this pictures and think about them the more I believe that this is not just a colombian, or latinamerican, but an universal story, since the exploitation of women by their beauty is everywhere, in different ways, even in the so call “developed world”, and maybe we all have our little part in that. I don’t know any answer for it, but your essay has gave me many good questions (and that’s what journalism is about, isn’t?).

Thanks again for a great job, I’ll love to see it in his final form.

All the best
Francisco

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By: gaetano belverde https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/10/carl-bower-chica-barbie/#comment-53963 Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:52:14 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=4493#comment-53963 Very nice and complete work. well done

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By: Carl Bower https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/10/carl-bower-chica-barbie/#comment-53943 Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:57:56 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=4493#comment-53943 Fotocubas,
The young woman on the steps you mention was in the People’s Pageant of Cartagena, a contest that runs concurrently with the lavish and media-frenzied National Beauty Contest each November. Each neighborhood gets to nominate a candidate, and all the costs are donated or covered by the local government. The winner gets a scholarship and a house. As a candidate, she’s drilled in how to move in social circles to which she’s never been exposed, and the process may bestow a degree of self confidence she didn’t have before. If she can stand in front of 30,000 people in the Plaza de Toros in a bikini, a simple job interview may not be as intimidating. By the same token, most resumés must be accompanied by a photo and she may be screened out by her appearance before she has the chance to interview. I don’t know if she’s the woman in García Márquez’s story or if she’s empowered. It’s possible that she’s leveraging a situation to her advantage while perpetuating a mindset that may ultimately limit her opportunities. She may not have a lot of options. I don’t know what she should do.

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By: Dominik Dunsch https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/10/carl-bower-chica-barbie/#comment-53932 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:18:53 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=4493#comment-53932 Carl,
I totally agree with Kathleen Fonseca: you had me at #1…
Fantastic essay!!! What moved me even more were those rivals’ derogatory looks, full of envy…
Very moving work, indeed!
All the best,
Dominik.

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By: Tommy https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/10/carl-bower-chica-barbie/#comment-53925 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:44:50 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=4493#comment-53925 Carl – I really like this essay.

It’s admirable and the style is welcoming. #4 for me. Great imagery.

Well done on burn, Good luck, and thanks for sharing.

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By: hookstrapped https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/10/carl-bower-chica-barbie/#comment-53924 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:25:31 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=4493#comment-53924 Beautiful work.

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By: Reimar https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/10/carl-bower-chica-barbie/#comment-53916 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:33:21 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=4493#comment-53916 Journalistic photoghraphy at it’s best. Superb images! Great composition! My favourite image would be #13. Like that one a lot! Nice to see that you use both long and wide lenses. The very first image is amazing with all these people in the background and not an inch of open space between.
Good light and I hope you will create more of this awesome work!
Best
Reimar

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