Comments on: live from the Kibbutz…. https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/12/live-from-the-kibbutz/ burn is an online feature for emerging photographers worldwide. burn is curated by magnum photographer david alan harvey. Sat, 18 Jun 2016 08:49:27 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2.4 By: burn magazine | anton kusters https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/12/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-52002 Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:18:12 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/12/11/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-52002 […] gathering of great friends & fellows where the BURN idea actually crystallized – read this), shook hands, and simply went for it. I know we launched on an impossible moment right before or […]

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By: Akaky https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/12/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24184 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:19:51 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/12/11/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24184 AKAKY IRL: I still like GROKKLESNORP the best.

AKAKY: I hate you.

AKAKY IRL: Stick it in your ear, dumbass.

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By: herve https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/12/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24185 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:02:02 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/12/11/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24185 Profuse apologies, I “oopsed!” again, so here’s the pix with one click only:

http://www.pbase.com/image/107044223

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By: herve https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/12/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24186 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:59:07 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/12/11/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24186 Tom, lovely shot, and definitely “burnt”, all in the shades… ;-)

BURN sounds good, I like the fact it does not point at “photography” per se, and that’s a very smart and “hip” way to say photography is never quite about photography only and much happens on and in the way to take a picture.

Anyway, INFERNO has been taken already…:-)

Back in Thailand, expecting a move by next week, but since we mentionned Pattaya lately and that’s where I base myself ( I own here the only piece of property-don’t fret: only 32 square meters-I will ever be able to afford in my life, anyone welcome to take advantage of it BTW), maybe that at the tip of their arrows, these little novices turned cupids threw a bit of love amidst all the sex the city has on offer… Just to make things more interesting and the world go round…

(Warning: this is PEACE PHOTOGRAPHY at his most unbashful, nothing, but absolutely nothing is happening…!):

http://www.pbase.com/update_image/107044223

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By: Jenny Lynn Walker https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/12/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24187 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:43:44 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/12/11/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24187 I like Zone, but how about “The Zone”?

Because when you get into ‘the zone’, so I’m told, the photographs are nothing like you’ve ever seen…

Good luck!

Jenny

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By: Chris H https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/12/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24188 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 06:09:42 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/12/11/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24188 BURN –

I like that the goal is to be dynamic and am glad to see the post on updating…it seems that there is so much on the web to DEVOUR that it is all people do and perhaps that is the nature of the beast – the difference between web and books/magazines – but just because you can does not mean you have to. Anyway I like Blue Eyes and personally don’t want to go to Blue Eyes everyday to see the latest update, nor would I want to go to BURN everyday to see the latest update…I think I would get BURNED out…I’d much rather get an email letting me know there is new content/feature on BURN every month or 2/3 weeks that I can check out, then go back to it again a few days later because it was that good : )

great idea with the financing.

looking forward to the “model”.

not sure if I can be of assistance from the dessert but if there is anything I can do, call anytime.

Also DAVID…I’ve been thinking about your comment about an edit of my work being much easier and faster in person and with a “cold beer”…if you have any time between now and Jan 12 its a good possibility I could make it to NYC or to Carolina.

~ Chris H

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By: tom hyde https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/12/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24189 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 05:29:03 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/12/11/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24189 Yes but think of all the logo possibilities if the magazine were called “STASH” ! ;-))) Actually, turns out it already is a hot hip-hop mag … darn. :)))

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By: Haik https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/12/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24190 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:34:57 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/12/11/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24190 PANOS

when are you back? let me see ya. am i coming to court with you to spoil the judge? i have software for that too. :))))

be good.

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By: panos skoulidas https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/12/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24191 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:05:24 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/12/11/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24191 HAIK,

you dont only share your sandwich…. your food…

but also your kindness…

you are a cool kid… man !

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By: Gina Martin https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/12/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24192 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:04:17 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/12/11/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24192 Just saw it – will let them both know about it…. i will comment on the new posting…

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By: Haik https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/12/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24193 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:00:13 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/12/11/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24193 KATIA

I sent you an email – I can send you some software tools that will help in recovery of your files.

cheers,

Haik

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By: David Alan Harvey https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/12/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24194 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:40:24 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/12/11/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24194 GINA…

if you are going to be with Dave and Lance, the three of you MUST check out the post coming up tonight about how we will finance BURN….

hugs, david

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By: David Alan Harvey https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/12/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24195 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:38:56 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/12/11/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24195 MARC…

good idea…will do….

cheers, david

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By: marc davidson https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/12/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24196 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:35:29 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/12/11/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24196 david

quick thought that came to me after your get together…

might be interesting and dynamic to have your magnum peers (and others) as guest curators every once in awhile.

maybe alex webb one month, bruce gilden another month, eugene richards another month…

just a thought…

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By: Gina Martin https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/12/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24197 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:29:58 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/12/11/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24197 DAH – still in austin… going to dinner with Lance and Dave Keenan tonight! i am sure your ears will be BURNing.

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By: david alan harvey https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/12/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24198 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:14:24 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/12/11/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24198 KERRY…ALL

i am wrestling with this one…i do not see how we can update daily…at least not the essays..great essays are few and far between…we have now a whole lot of content to last awhile, from the forum here and the workshops etc…

but, even with a number of essays on hand i cannot imagine any more major postings than we do now…that is, major features updated at say three or four per month, but we will have the blog going on as per usual and maybe a daily single picture category…..and lots of stuff going on under “work in progress”..so there will be a lot of activity..

but, carefully curated developed stories in the main Features section will be , by their very nature, little treasures and not daily “newsy” fodder…other sites already do this very well..

what we have that is special and unique is self generated content..stories started, edited, mentored right on BURN… we become producers rather than just be a compendium site…everyone knows that in the new communication world, content will be king…i think we can “play”…

remember this whole magazine is built on a blog platform..if you update the features too often you will not have any one up long enough for the photographer to feel that he/she has really gotten the max exposure…of course, the great features will stay up forever in the archive etc…at any one time, readers will see about 10 photographer names/stories and from say number 11 on, one click gets you to the next 10 etc etc..

major daily feature updates would require a full time well paid staff…to just get one story ready to go and on the level i foresee is already a major job…one thing we did discuss was putting as much responsibility on the photographer as possible..we will have a very strict submissions guideline ….this will reduce the need for raw man/woman power…

our primary goal now is to launch soonest a “model”…with what it will look like, a sampling of possibility, but not yet a full blown magazine…but we will clearly have something that could be shown by you/me to potential sponsors..

we also think we have come up with a very creative plan to finance photographers beyond the relatively limited EPF..to have specific sponsors finance specific grants which will be given to specific photographers…this way sponsor money goes directly to the photographer who then shoots something for BURN..this leads to more reader interest, which leads to more funding, which leads to more reader interest, etc etc etc…

i plan to “BURN the house down” my friend !!

cheers, david

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By: Martin Brink https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/12/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24199 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:59:45 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/12/11/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24199 Just saw Karim and Panos posts and I don’t doubt Karim can do it. If this works consider yourself lucky! :)

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By: Martin Brink https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/12/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24200 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:54:12 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/12/11/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24200 KATIA,

Sorry to hear about loosing your pics and I’m even more sorry that you had to learn the lesson the hard way..

Most harddrives can be recovered, BUT I would never let someone that isn’t 100% professional do it for you or even look at it. Even if they are super good with tech. It may work, but it’s also possible that it will reduce your chances of getting the work back.

I like the images and really hope there’s some solution to this accident.

And for the future I guess you know you have to backup.

For those who don’t know a lot about computers, backup, RAID etc I can recommend the Drobo.

Cheers

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By: cathy scholl https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/12/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24201 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:45:13 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/12/11/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24201 TOM.

Love that shot! What did the other’s shots look like? Would be interesting to see…

BURNERS… :))

Could someone please repost links for the DAH raincoat shot and whatever else was posted from the “meeting?”

Just came home from a friend’s (suicide) memorial and I’m not up for searching back for them. Thanks.

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By: Kerry Payne https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/12/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24202 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:03:34 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/12/11/live-from-the-kibbutz/#comment-24202 DAVID and BURN team,

Veba’s observation is important — ideally, the site should be ‘dynamic’ — new / fresh material daily to keep the majority of visitors ‘hooked’ and returning. This is especially crucial if you intend to seek serious sponsorship dollars…

perhaps you’re planning on (C) Works in Progress to fill this need?

if not, the section of the plan I sent you relating to COMMUNITY might have some high leverage/low effort ideas for consideration…

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KATIA, thank you for the giving us the opportunity to contribute, but it is you who is generous. Generous with your time, your energy and your obvious love for these kids…

I really hope you get your images back… :(

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