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		<title>By: david bowen</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/photographs/2009/12/untitled-by-imants-krumins/comment-page-2/#comment-58485</link>
		<dc:creator>david bowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it´s an enigma..
and so on.

pass the cheesy doodles..

ta
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it´s an enigma..<br />
and so on.</p>
<p>pass the cheesy doodles..</p>
<p>ta<br />
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		<title>By: Jim Powers</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/photographs/2009/12/untitled-by-imants-krumins/comment-page-2/#comment-58467</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Powers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So we&#039;ve been staring at a photo about nothing for three days. Come on David, let&#039;s move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So we&#8217;ve been staring at a photo about nothing for three days. Come on David, let&#8217;s move on.</p>
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		<title>By: david bowen</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/photographs/2009/12/untitled-by-imants-krumins/comment-page-2/#comment-58466</link>
		<dc:creator>david bowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as mentioned by a man called imants earlier - it is a photograph.
also mentioned by imants - it is the expression of a lazy photographer..

okay - sun is out.. tor capa bathed.. 3 hours of daylight left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as mentioned by a man called imants earlier &#8211; it is a photograph.<br />
also mentioned by imants &#8211; it is the expression of a lazy photographer..</p>
<p>okay &#8211; sun is out.. tor capa bathed.. 3 hours of daylight left.</p>
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		<title>By: vicky slater</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/photographs/2009/12/untitled-by-imants-krumins/comment-page-2/#comment-58465</link>
		<dc:creator>vicky slater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s perplexing how much I don&#039;t understand....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s perplexing how much I don&#8217;t understand&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: david bowen</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/photographs/2009/12/untitled-by-imants-krumins/comment-page-2/#comment-58464</link>
		<dc:creator>david bowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>herve... it is a simple composition, an effective arrangement which comforts our brains with conformity.. 
it´s someone washing their feet.. *sling metaphors here*
an indian perhaps *sling metaphors here*
there are three metal objects, the rule of thirdss and three limbs *sling metaphors here*

personally i am not part of the gallery visiting art hob-nob world.. i´m simply a photographer and will see the work as such.
i´d have the photo on my wall.. imants Machiavellian games are fun, but they don´t match the curtains.

others reading is absolutely a reflection of thier thoughts.. a film fan.. a person concerned with poverty.. and so on.
it´s the psychologists empty glass to project onto.. then imants choosing to develop a little mystery around it with the text.. 
or is there mystery? i think what he´s saying is pretty clear.. backed up by his post under eglons name.
to me at least a personal statement, backed up with his feeling of being lazy in the past.. perhaps he´s saying &quot;enough with the navel gazing already&quot;.. 
who knows? imants..
who cares? probably others more than me.

there is a lot to read in the text, if we choose to - why say you have won no competitions, imants,  and go on to say you write textbooks on the subject? elevation of self? hmm.. a friend saying you could do better.. you have it in you.. blahblah.. okay - good.

imants - lazy in the past? want to arrange goals to kick yourself towards? washing your feet? been on holiday?
great.. :ø)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>herve&#8230; it is a simple composition, an effective arrangement which comforts our brains with conformity..<br />
it´s someone washing their feet.. *sling metaphors here*<br />
an indian perhaps *sling metaphors here*<br />
there are three metal objects, the rule of thirdss and three limbs *sling metaphors here*</p>
<p>personally i am not part of the gallery visiting art hob-nob world.. i´m simply a photographer and will see the work as such.<br />
i´d have the photo on my wall.. imants Machiavellian games are fun, but they don´t match the curtains.</p>
<p>others reading is absolutely a reflection of thier thoughts.. a film fan.. a person concerned with poverty.. and so on.<br />
it´s the psychologists empty glass to project onto.. then imants choosing to develop a little mystery around it with the text..<br />
or is there mystery? i think what he´s saying is pretty clear.. backed up by his post under eglons name.<br />
to me at least a personal statement, backed up with his feeling of being lazy in the past.. perhaps he´s saying &#8220;enough with the navel gazing already&#8221;..<br />
who knows? imants..<br />
who cares? probably others more than me.</p>
<p>there is a lot to read in the text, if we choose to &#8211; why say you have won no competitions, imants,  and go on to say you write textbooks on the subject? elevation of self? hmm.. a friend saying you could do better.. you have it in you.. blahblah.. okay &#8211; good.</p>
<p>imants &#8211; lazy in the past? want to arrange goals to kick yourself towards? washing your feet? been on holiday?<br />
great.. :ø)</p>
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		<title>By: Imants</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/photographs/2009/12/untitled-by-imants-krumins/comment-page-2/#comment-58450</link>
		<dc:creator>Imants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eglons Spekis may be closer to the truth than people give him credit for after all he saw similar thing happen back at the station in &#039;86 before the great ward purge................. ward 017 remains intact</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eglons Spekis may be closer to the truth than people give him credit for after all he saw similar thing happen back at the station in &#8216;86 before the great ward purge&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. ward 017 remains intact</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia Lay-Dorsey</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/photographs/2009/12/untitled-by-imants-krumins/comment-page-2/#comment-58444</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia Lay-Dorsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it so interesting to see how differently each of us views not just this photo but all photos. 

Some of us are content to experience things on a gut level. It either speaks to us or it doesn&#039;t. And if it does, it may trigger memories, feelings or thoughts that we want to share. But others don&#039;t want to go there: they either like it or they don&#039;t and that&#039;s all they have to say.

Some are not happy unless they hear from the photographer exactly what he or she intended this image to say or be or represent. Others need to know how the photographer got the effects she or he got: the techniques that were used, whether or not it was manipulated using Photoshop, and if it was, they want to know why and how. 

And still others are open to simply appreciating the wide diversity of photo images that appear here on Burn. They may seem naive and gullible and too uncritical to others, but this is probably how they deal with the vagaries of life. 

Thank god we are so different. How unutterably boring it would be if we were all the same.

Patricia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it so interesting to see how differently each of us views not just this photo but all photos. </p>
<p>Some of us are content to experience things on a gut level. It either speaks to us or it doesn&#8217;t. And if it does, it may trigger memories, feelings or thoughts that we want to share. But others don&#8217;t want to go there: they either like it or they don&#8217;t and that&#8217;s all they have to say.</p>
<p>Some are not happy unless they hear from the photographer exactly what he or she intended this image to say or be or represent. Others need to know how the photographer got the effects she or he got: the techniques that were used, whether or not it was manipulated using Photoshop, and if it was, they want to know why and how. </p>
<p>And still others are open to simply appreciating the wide diversity of photo images that appear here on Burn. They may seem naive and gullible and too uncritical to others, but this is probably how they deal with the vagaries of life. </p>
<p>Thank god we are so different. How unutterably boring it would be if we were all the same.</p>
<p>Patricia</p>
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		<title>By: mtomalty</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/photographs/2009/12/untitled-by-imants-krumins/comment-page-2/#comment-58440</link>
		<dc:creator>mtomalty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you think this is very simply, a neat photograph, then you have not understood one bit what Imants is striving for &quot;


But then I don&#039;t really give a fuck!   I feel so cool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you think this is very simply, a neat photograph, then you have not understood one bit what Imants is striving for &#8221;</p>
<p>But then I don&#8217;t really give a fuck!   I feel so cool!</p>
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		<title>By: panos skoulidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>panos skoulidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better, for me, to leave a little mystery, or at least the hope thereof.
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totally, totally....:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better, for me, to leave a little mystery, or at least the hope thereof.<br />
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<p>totally, totally&#8230;.:)</p>
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		<title>By: michael webster</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael webster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, and maybe I&#039;m just shallow by your way of reckoning Herve, I don&#039;t want Imants to tell me what that photo is about. On one hand, it seems to me the meaning is quite obvious and I would be disappointed were that to be confirmed. On the other, if the meaning is not what it appears to be, I&#039;d likely be equally disappointed with any other necessarily narrow definition. Better, for me, to leave a little mystery, or at least the hope thereof. 

And I&#039;ve no more interest in how it was processed than I do with what kind of camera/accessories combination he used to create it. That&#039;s not to say I&#039;m not interested, but none of that has anything whatsoever to do with my evaluation of the photo. But each to their own. I see no need to be overly judgmental about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, and maybe I&#8217;m just shallow by your way of reckoning Herve, I don&#8217;t want Imants to tell me what that photo is about. On one hand, it seems to me the meaning is quite obvious and I would be disappointed were that to be confirmed. On the other, if the meaning is not what it appears to be, I&#8217;d likely be equally disappointed with any other necessarily narrow definition. Better, for me, to leave a little mystery, or at least the hope thereof. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve no more interest in how it was processed than I do with what kind of camera/accessories combination he used to create it. That&#8217;s not to say I&#8217;m not interested, but none of that has anything whatsoever to do with my evaluation of the photo. But each to their own. I see no need to be overly judgmental about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon L</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/photographs/2009/12/untitled-by-imants-krumins/comment-page-2/#comment-58435</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um Eglons...(Imants), are you havin&#039; us on here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um Eglons&#8230;(Imants), are you havin&#8217; us on here?</p>
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		<title>By: Herve</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/photographs/2009/12/untitled-by-imants-krumins/comment-page-2/#comment-58432</link>
		<dc:creator>Herve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imant&#039;s submission makes a point. That the text (here none, at least about the photo, about where, when, how, why, leaving us to define the &quot;what?&quot; ourselves...If we wish so) does influence people a lot, in their comments, and eventual judgement.

Here, no one as far as I remember, has questionned or commented upon its making, processing, even wondered about the subject (when it&#039;s been done for just about evry series or photo with text and obvious processing). 

People have answered as if they knew instantly what Imants wanted to show them (but no one ever dared tell us, knowing very well they treaded on ignorance). And really, IMO, as if it did not matter, preferring to lazilytransferring  their own personality and idiosyncratic &quot;soulfulness&quot; to it. That&#039;s all nice, mind you but a bit too philistine, either too led by the nose, or too left to self-convincing. 

And will make just about every photo, every image, a deep, resonating work of art , or inversely, a piece of shit, if wished for. 

I have no problem saying I miss a lot of &quot;information&quot; about this photo. Even if I had a deep feel about it, my first response, or rather second, woud be to very much question myself why i feel like that.  

Is it me, is it the picture/subejct, is it the treatment, is it Imants personality (meaning viewing it against other works from his)? This whole idea that you could have an epiphany about a photograph, while being completely ignorant , WISHING to be even, completely ignorant of what brought it about, or may be, and how that comes about, i cannot buy.  

If you think this is very simply, a neat photograph, then you have not understood one bit what Imants is striving for (if we see a photograph), or dealing/playing with (if we see an image, that is the medium used is unimportant, in regards to the manipulation/creation).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imant&#8217;s submission makes a point. That the text (here none, at least about the photo, about where, when, how, why, leaving us to define the &#8220;what?&#8221; ourselves&#8230;If we wish so) does influence people a lot, in their comments, and eventual judgement.</p>
<p>Here, no one as far as I remember, has questionned or commented upon its making, processing, even wondered about the subject (when it&#8217;s been done for just about evry series or photo with text and obvious processing). </p>
<p>People have answered as if they knew instantly what Imants wanted to show them (but no one ever dared tell us, knowing very well they treaded on ignorance). And really, IMO, as if it did not matter, preferring to lazilytransferring  their own personality and idiosyncratic &#8220;soulfulness&#8221; to it. That&#8217;s all nice, mind you but a bit too philistine, either too led by the nose, or too left to self-convincing. </p>
<p>And will make just about every photo, every image, a deep, resonating work of art , or inversely, a piece of shit, if wished for. </p>
<p>I have no problem saying I miss a lot of &#8220;information&#8221; about this photo. Even if I had a deep feel about it, my first response, or rather second, woud be to very much question myself why i feel like that.  </p>
<p>Is it me, is it the picture/subejct, is it the treatment, is it Imants personality (meaning viewing it against other works from his)? This whole idea that you could have an epiphany about a photograph, while being completely ignorant , WISHING to be even, completely ignorant of what brought it about, or may be, and how that comes about, i cannot buy.  </p>
<p>If you think this is very simply, a neat photograph, then you have not understood one bit what Imants is striving for (if we see a photograph), or dealing/playing with (if we see an image, that is the medium used is unimportant, in regards to the manipulation/creation).</p>
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		<title>By: Herve</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/photographs/2009/12/untitled-by-imants-krumins/comment-page-2/#comment-58431</link>
		<dc:creator>Herve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imants dont give a fuck..and thats the cool part…
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what would be cool about that?!?!?</description>
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<p>what would be cool about that?!?!?</p>
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		<title>By: panos skoulidas</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/photographs/2009/12/untitled-by-imants-krumins/comment-page-2/#comment-58424</link>
		<dc:creator>panos skoulidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gordon..:)
nobody said it..
that was simply my assumption...
big hug</description>
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nobody said it..<br />
that was simply my assumption&#8230;<br />
big hug</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon L</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/photographs/2009/12/untitled-by-imants-krumins/comment-page-2/#comment-58423</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Panos

Don&#039;t ever beleive anyone who tries to give you the impression that they don&#039;t give a fuck. 

Otherwise, why bother submitting?</description>
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<p>Don&#8217;t ever beleive anyone who tries to give you the impression that they don&#8217;t give a fuck. </p>
<p>Otherwise, why bother submitting?</p>
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		<title>By: andrew b.</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/photographs/2009/12/untitled-by-imants-krumins/comment-page-2/#comment-58421</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew b.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I keep coming back to the echos of the textures...on the stone, the metal container, the skin....

I&#039;m not sure if it&#039;s something I&#039;d select for my wall, but I do keep coming back and it does pull me into it...

a.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep coming back to the echos of the textures&#8230;on the stone, the metal container, the skin&#8230;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if it&#8217;s something I&#8217;d select for my wall, but I do keep coming back and it does pull me into it&#8230;</p>
<p>a.</p>
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		<title>By: david bowen</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/photographs/2009/12/untitled-by-imants-krumins/comment-page-2/#comment-58420</link>
		<dc:creator>david bowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i mean what we think of him and whether we like the snap..
it´s interesting to read some perpectives</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i mean what we think of him and whether we like the snap..<br />
it´s interesting to read some perpectives</p>
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		<title>By: david bowen</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/photographs/2009/12/untitled-by-imants-krumins/comment-page-2/#comment-58419</link>
		<dc:creator>david bowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:ø)
frank.. with so much bnw abstraction and people parts on the walls of ikea waiting to be snapped up,,
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i think it´s obvious imants cares passionately about photography and therefore, by extension, his own work.. 
personally, it´s great to see something font free..

could he give a monkeys-aunt what we think?
probably no.. 
after all - why care?</description>
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frank.. with so much bnw abstraction and people parts on the walls of ikea waiting to be snapped up,,<br />
__</p>
<p>i think it´s obvious imants cares passionately about photography and therefore, by extension, his own work..<br />
personally, it´s great to see something font free..</p>
<p>could he give a monkeys-aunt what we think?<br />
probably no..<br />
after all &#8211; why care?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Michael Hack</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/photographs/2009/12/untitled-by-imants-krumins/comment-page-2/#comment-58417</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Michael Hack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

That actually is a great question. Apparently Black is the new black so B&amp;W photos will match perfectly with the curtains. It is so very &#039;Wallpaper&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>That actually is a great question. Apparently Black is the new black so B&amp;W photos will match perfectly with the curtains. It is so very &#8216;Wallpaper&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: david bowen</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/photographs/2009/12/untitled-by-imants-krumins/comment-page-2/#comment-58415</link>
		<dc:creator>david bowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This reduction of visual information leaves the essence of something that goes beyond the photo and like the layers of god’s onion is waiting to be explored.&quot;

but frank - will it match the curtains?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This reduction of visual information leaves the essence of something that goes beyond the photo and like the layers of god’s onion is waiting to be explored.&#8221;</p>
<p>but frank &#8211; will it match the curtains?</p>
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