Comments on: c’est tout by jan smith http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/03/cest-tout-by-jan-smith/ burn is an online feature for emerging photographers worldwide. burn is curated by magnum photographer david alan harvey. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:36:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: terry http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/03/cest-tout-by-jan-smith/comment-page-5/#comment-81075 terry Tue, 14 Dec 2010 02:19:39 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1946#comment-81075 it is _very_ well framed - thanks Jan it is _very_ well framed – thanks Jan

]]> By: David Gimenez http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/03/cest-tout-by-jan-smith/comment-page-5/#comment-33835 David Gimenez Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:02:43 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1946#comment-33835 This is so far, one of the most astonishing photographs i've seen of Gunkanjima. Impressive contrast between flesh and concrete. I was there one morning of June 2007, actually the place is weird and a dream for many photographers. Good job Jan. This is so far, one of the most astonishing photographs i’ve seen of Gunkanjima. Impressive contrast between flesh and concrete. I was there one morning of June 2007, actually the place is weird and a dream for many photographers.

Good job Jan.

]]> By: Akaky http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/03/cest-tout-by-jan-smith/comment-page-5/#comment-33808 Akaky Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:19:06 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1946#comment-33808 If Jim were happy with everything he saw here, would that make him a gruntled Texas conservative editor, I wonder? There's not much about gruntled people in the newspapers these days, just as you hear very little about ept people being whelmed by a situation. There must be a reason for this, although I imagine it's because the times being what they are, no one is interested in eptness. If Jim were happy with everything he saw here, would that make him a gruntled Texas conservative editor, I wonder? There’s not much about gruntled people in the newspapers these days, just as you hear very little about ept people being whelmed by a situation. There must be a reason for this, although I imagine it’s because the times being what they are, no one is interested in eptness.

]]> By: Jan http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/03/cest-tout-by-jan-smith/comment-page-5/#comment-33804 Jan Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:52:00 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1946#comment-33804 b.b. "more of a variety, a balance between both stillness and disappearance. Entropy impacts so much because we know it came from solid forms and will again return to solids…make sense?? :))…" Makes a lot of sense actually, and on various levels: from the technical to the emotional. It is technically harder to achieve and control--I like the challenge. I understand how this can strengthen the presentation, and most importantly I can relate to it. I may have arrived there on my own, but you certainly helped accelerate the process and time saved is a blessing. I'll be playing around with this for sure. Thanks. b.b.
“more of a variety, a balance between both stillness and disappearance. Entropy impacts so much because we know it came from solid forms and will again return to solids…make sense?? :))…”

Makes a lot of sense actually, and on various levels: from the technical to the emotional. It is technically harder to achieve and control–I like the challenge. I understand how this can strengthen the presentation, and most importantly I can relate to it. I may have arrived there on my own, but you certainly helped accelerate the process and time saved is a blessing. I’ll be playing around with this for sure. Thanks.

]]> By: andrew b http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/03/cest-tout-by-jan-smith/comment-page-5/#comment-33802 andrew b Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:43:52 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1946#comment-33802 bob/b/homer... if the above is true (and i must say it makes me a bit sad if so, for even though your elliptical, mind-numbingly long paragraphs were sometimes difficult for my too-small brain to absorb, they most frequently held nuggets and gemstones of knowing) you should henceforth be known as pheonix....for your comments have been absorbed by the Burn and yet your essence will rise from the ashes... ~~~ That's life. An audience falls out of sync. The author goes to improbable places that later become certainties. bob/b/homer…

if the above is true (and i must say it makes me a bit sad if so, for even though your elliptical, mind-numbingly long paragraphs were sometimes difficult for my too-small brain to absorb, they most frequently held nuggets and gemstones of knowing) you should henceforth be known as pheonix….for your comments have been absorbed by the Burn and yet your essence will rise from the ashes…

~~~

That’s life. An audience falls out of sync. The author goes to improbable places that later become certainties.

]]> By: b http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/03/cest-tout-by-jan-smith/comment-page-4/#comment-33801 b Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:34:07 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1946#comment-33801 JARED! :)))))))))))))))))))))))))) brilliant..............and hilarious!... now, running, brain on empty... b JARED! :))))))))))))))))))))))))))

brilliant…………..and hilarious!…

now, running, brain on empty…
b

]]> By: b http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/03/cest-tout-by-jan-smith/comment-page-4/#comment-33800 b Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:30:31 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1946#comment-33800 kAT :))...no worries....i love the contributions you've made (even when i dont always agree) and i think Grace is very nice and yes, funny too...an d i dig her poetic ramblings (what else could move me if not another poet/photographer)...so, sorry for the confusion...i really enjoyed your lov....um...FRIENDSHIP AND JOY :))) running b kAT :))…no worries….i love the contributions you’ve made (even when i dont always agree) and i think Grace is very nice and yes, funny too…an d i dig her poetic ramblings (what else could move me if not another poet/photographer)…so, sorry for the confusion…i really enjoyed your lov….um…FRIENDSHIP AND JOY :)))

running
b

]]> By: jared iorio http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/03/cest-tout-by-jan-smith/comment-page-4/#comment-33798 jared iorio Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:29:36 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1946#comment-33798 Wrong place, brain not working.... Or was I subconsciously trying to get under Jan's skin? :) Wrong place, brain not working….

Or was I subconsciously trying to get under Jan’s skin? :)

]]> By: jared iorio http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/03/cest-tout-by-jan-smith/comment-page-4/#comment-33797 jared iorio Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:28:31 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1946#comment-33797 Slight tangent to try and rectify some of my thoughts. We've had a few essays so far on burn which have been decried as exploitative so far. I don't feel that this essay crosses that thin line, but just curious to hear some of the more prolific commenters here view on where that line lies. To me this essay feels sincerely compassionate and I love the photos themselves, but at what point does photographing extreme poverty cross over? Is it in the approach? Is it in the feeling the essay delivers to the majority of viewers? or simply the subject matter? Any thoughts would be appreciated, trying to jumpstart my brain this morning... Slight tangent to try and rectify some of my thoughts.

We’ve had a few essays so far on burn which have been decried as exploitative so far.

I don’t feel that this essay crosses that thin line, but just curious to hear some of the more prolific commenters here view on where that line lies.

To me this essay feels sincerely compassionate and I love the photos themselves, but at what point does photographing extreme poverty cross over?

Is it in the approach?
Is it in the feeling the essay delivers to the majority of viewers?
or simply the subject matter?

Any thoughts would be appreciated, trying to jumpstart my brain this morning…

]]> By: b http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/03/cest-tout-by-jan-smith/comment-page-4/#comment-33796 b Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:28:08 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1946#comment-33796 Sidney: bluewordsme2@gmail.com can't wait to see it :))) hugs b p.s. JAN, sorry for all the diversion: I THINK THE PIC IS WONDERFUL (see my 1st comment today :) )... Sidney:

bluewordsme2@gmail.com

can’t wait to see it :)))

hugs
b

p.s. JAN, sorry for all the diversion: I THINK THE PIC IS WONDERFUL (see my 1st comment today :) )…

]]> By: b http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/03/cest-tout-by-jan-smith/comment-page-4/#comment-33795 b Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:26:08 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1946#comment-33795 my contributions from this day forward (as i promised my.....oh, i cannot talk/write about the trinity ;) ) for Burn will be: 1) help editing/getting work (as i've been doing already, but now in a more official capacity) 2) writing text for pictures/essays that David wishes (or other editors) wish me to 3) providing my own work (photography) when needed... ok, that's it for my comments :))))... enjoy y'all running b my contributions from this day forward (as i promised my…..oh, i cannot talk/write about the trinity ;) ) for Burn will be:

1) help editing/getting work (as i’ve been doing already, but now in a more official capacity)
2) writing text for pictures/essays that David wishes (or other editors) wish me to
3) providing my own work (photography) when needed…

ok, that’s it for my comments :))))…

enjoy y’all
running
b

]]> By: HERVE(!!!) http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/03/cest-tout-by-jan-smith/comment-page-4/#comment-33794 HERVE(!!!) Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:25:22 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1946#comment-33794 If even Panos doen't know when "I joking" (as the thais say).... :-((( If even Panos doen’t know when “I joking” (as the thais say)…. :-(((

]]> By: b http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/03/cest-tout-by-jan-smith/comment-page-4/#comment-33793 b Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:23:25 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1946#comment-33793 HERVE! :))))))))))) JOKING JOKING JOKING AMIGO ;)))))))))))))...ok, see even when i joke (like then) or when i was trying to make loving of Kat/Gracie's friendship and support of one another (ok, no more lovefest diction with ladies, y'all ;) ), i gets misinterpreted ;))))).....i TOTALLY love when people tease me about my long-winded, eliptical, non=paragraphing, endless, silly posts ;)))))...believe me, Im a characature of the real BB (burn bb is sort of like akaky irl, but only david and Panos are allowed to steal from others jokes ;))))))) ).....no worries amigo...what i meant is just that: i think, after all this time, my writing would better serve David and Burn as organized thoughts, the way i write my essays/poems for real life and publication, rather than extemporizing here...but, believe me, i totally loved what you wrote :)))...no worries... ok, gotta split...got a Writing assignment to do for Burn... running b HERVE! :)))))))))))

JOKING JOKING JOKING AMIGO ;)))))))))))))…ok, see even when i joke (like then) or when i was trying to make loving of Kat/Gracie’s friendship and support of one another (ok, no more lovefest diction with ladies, y’all ;) ), i gets misinterpreted ;)))))…..i TOTALLY love when people tease me about my long-winded, eliptical, non=paragraphing, endless, silly posts ;)))))…believe me, Im a characature of the real BB (burn bb is sort of like akaky irl, but only david and Panos are allowed to steal from others jokes ;))))))) )…..no worries amigo…what i meant is just that: i think, after all this time, my writing would better serve David and Burn as organized thoughts, the way i write my essays/poems for real life and publication, rather than extemporizing here…but, believe me, i totally loved what you wrote :)))…no worries…

ok, gotta split…got a Writing assignment to do for Burn…

running
b

]]> By: panos skoulidas http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/03/cest-tout-by-jan-smith/comment-page-4/#comment-33790 panos skoulidas Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:55:56 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1946#comment-33790 Herve... there is no word as "hijack" in my vocabulary.... I want people to express themselves freely... no matter if its in the "venice thread".. or whatever they like... no rules.. ( although i still agree with davidB...above ...blah... etc...) Herve…
there is no word as “hijack” in my vocabulary….
I want people to express themselves freely… no matter if its in the “venice thread”..
or whatever they like… no rules..
( although i still agree with davidB…above …blah… etc…)

]]> By: HERVE(!!!) http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/03/cest-tout-by-jan-smith/comment-page-4/#comment-33786 HERVE(!!!) Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:37:57 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1946#comment-33786 Panos above... Thread Hi-jack in its purest form. Totally without merit, IMO really high up there with: "do not forget to get milk on your way home!". ;-) Panos above…

Thread Hi-jack in its purest form. Totally without merit, IMO really high up there with: “do not forget to get milk on your way home!”. ;-)

]]> By: panos skoulidas http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/03/cest-tout-by-jan-smith/comment-page-4/#comment-33784 panos skoulidas Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:32:23 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1946#comment-33784 Herve... :))))) Hey, just got your voicemail.... Im up in the mountain... no reception ( sporadic , actually )... but i will call you as soon as i go to the store near by... Im looking for a new home in LA... so im happily busy... but i will call you in a while.... missed your voice malaka.... loved your voicemail.... ( at least you do have a great sense of humor ... thanks, you brightened my day...!!!! big hug ) Herve…
:)))))
Hey, just got your voicemail….
Im up in the mountain… no reception ( sporadic , actually )…
but i will call you as soon as i go to the store near by…
Im looking for a new home in LA… so im happily busy…
but i will call you in a while….
missed your voice malaka….
loved your voicemail….
( at least you do have a great sense of humor … thanks, you brightened my day…!!!!
big hug )

]]> By: HERVE(!!!) http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/03/cest-tout-by-jan-smith/comment-page-4/#comment-33783 HERVE(!!!) Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:22:20 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1946#comment-33783 Well, definitely, just as I wrote in my 1st post, the essay may be titled C' EST TOUT, but anything after, definitely: C' EST BEAUCOUP! :-) Well, definitely, just as I wrote in my 1st post, the essay may be titled C’ EST TOUT, but anything after, definitely:

C’ EST BEAUCOUP!

:-)

]]> By: panos skoulidas http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/03/cest-tout-by-jan-smith/comment-page-4/#comment-33782 panos skoulidas Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:01:18 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1946#comment-33782 Goodwin's Law March 24, 2009 at 12:55 pm ohhhhh, ohhh... another Troll/UFO... with no name.. ( although we all know who is behind it...:)))))) btw... its GODWIN... NOT GOODWIN...little uneducated troll... :))) (..and please dont forget your medication...ok? big hug ) Goodwin’s Law
March 24, 2009 at 12:55 pm

ohhhhh, ohhh… another Troll/UFO… with no name..
( although we all know who is behind it…:))))))

btw… its GODWIN… NOT GOODWIN…little uneducated troll…
:)))
(..and please dont forget your medication…ok? big hug )

]]> By: Goodwin's Law http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/03/cest-tout-by-jan-smith/comment-page-4/#comment-33781 Goodwin's Law Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:57:46 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1946#comment-33781 Better with the correct link. Google this: Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies Better with the correct link. Google this:
Godwin’s Rule of Nazi Analogies

]]> By: panos skoulidas http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/03/cest-tout-by-jan-smith/comment-page-4/#comment-33780 panos skoulidas Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:57:10 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1946#comment-33780 Kathie, I wasnt writing... but i was reading each and every word of hers( Gracie )... same with Civilian.. ... and last thing about Pat... i said it million times before... doesnt matter how she resents me and no matter how much she denies it... shed is just like me... the other side of the same COIN... self absorbed, attention seeker, strongly opinionated, fascist at times, self promoter... JUST LIKE ME.... just like me...ok? ( at least i admit it..:) ... but i'm the one that has to go to her designated "ovens".... and that is SAD.... ( ... know yourself that socrates guy once said.... know yourself...) Kathie,
I wasnt writing…
but i was reading each and every word of hers( Gracie )…
same with Civilian..
… and last thing about Pat… i said it million times before…
doesnt matter how she resents me
and no matter how much she denies it… shed is just like me…
the other side of the same COIN…
self absorbed,
attention seeker,
strongly opinionated,
fascist at times,
self promoter…
JUST LIKE ME…. just like me…ok? ( at least i admit it..:)
… but i’m the one that has to go to her designated “ovens”….
and that is SAD….
( … know yourself that socrates guy once said…. know yourself…)

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