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	<title>Comments on: gaza protest by laith al-majali</title>
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		<title>By: Asher</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/01/gaza-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-28300</link>
		<dc:creator>Asher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 14:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a compelling photograph, and a courageous one at that given the circumstances. I can see clearly why David posted this photograph.

Regarding the political discussion above, I am perplexed at the one-sidedness of the comments. As photographers, and particularly as photojournalists there is an onus to be unbiased and to observe without preconceived notions. Unfortunately this rarely happens. 

There is no mention of Sderot, the southern Israeli town that has been the target of thousands of bombs launched from Gaza, even during the months of &quot;cease fire&quot;. Nor is there a mention of the fact that Hamas endangers its own civilians intentionally, by launching these missiles from civilian areas. Nor is there a mention that Israel sent in leaflets to these civilian areas, warning about impending retaliatory attacks, in order to limit civilian casualties. Jon Voigt has tried to raise awareness about these issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phTtykyzWm0


However, unilateral scapegoating and blame has never advanced peace, and never will. There are always many more facets to a difficult political situation, than what filters through the popular media, both east and west.

What can photojournalists do to promote peace rather than inflame misconceptions, bigotry, racism, and hatred?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a compelling photograph, and a courageous one at that given the circumstances. I can see clearly why David posted this photograph.</p>
<p>Regarding the political discussion above, I am perplexed at the one-sidedness of the comments. As photographers, and particularly as photojournalists there is an onus to be unbiased and to observe without preconceived notions. Unfortunately this rarely happens. </p>
<p>There is no mention of Sderot, the southern Israeli town that has been the target of thousands of bombs launched from Gaza, even during the months of &#8220;cease fire&#8221;. Nor is there a mention of the fact that Hamas endangers its own civilians intentionally, by launching these missiles from civilian areas. Nor is there a mention that Israel sent in leaflets to these civilian areas, warning about impending retaliatory attacks, in order to limit civilian casualties. Jon Voigt has tried to raise awareness about these issues: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phTtykyzWm0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phTtykyzWm0</a></p>
<p>However, unilateral scapegoating and blame has never advanced peace, and never will. There are always many more facets to a difficult political situation, than what filters through the popular media, both east and west.</p>
<p>What can photojournalists do to promote peace rather than inflame misconceptions, bigotry, racism, and hatred?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Wasp</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/01/gaza-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-27924</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Wasp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said!</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Wasp</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/01/gaza-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-27923</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Wasp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>?</description>
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		<title>By: Laith Al-Majali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laith Al-Majali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off i&#039;d like to thank you all for your comments on my image. David thanks for choosing it for burn, it means a lot, i&#039;m glad that we as emerging photographers have such a platform to interact in. I won&#039;t get a chance to reply to all the comments but i&#039;d like to say that i found nothing but encouragement from what you said, thanks for some of the technical comments too they were helpful. The image in itself doesn&#039;t represent the whole conflict in any way, this was a moment captured after a peaceful demonstration against what was happening in Gaza got violent in Amman. I was there to capture the demo, thought it was a good chance to get some images of the anger on the streets of the city i live in, couldn&#039;t have expected it to turn this violent. So when i submitted this image i did so because i thought it was a powerful picture as is, without the whole context of the conflict or the event itself, otherwise i would have sent in a whole essay. Thanks again for the encouragement to keep shooting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off i&#8217;d like to thank you all for your comments on my image. David thanks for choosing it for burn, it means a lot, i&#8217;m glad that we as emerging photographers have such a platform to interact in. I won&#8217;t get a chance to reply to all the comments but i&#8217;d like to say that i found nothing but encouragement from what you said, thanks for some of the technical comments too they were helpful. The image in itself doesn&#8217;t represent the whole conflict in any way, this was a moment captured after a peaceful demonstration against what was happening in Gaza got violent in Amman. I was there to capture the demo, thought it was a good chance to get some images of the anger on the streets of the city i live in, couldn&#8217;t have expected it to turn this violent. So when i submitted this image i did so because i thought it was a powerful picture as is, without the whole context of the conflict or the event itself, otherwise i would have sent in a whole essay. Thanks again for the encouragement to keep shooting.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy Marijnissen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy Marijnissen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A truely fantastic image! Congrats and keep making images like this. 
Best, Wendy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A truely fantastic image! Congrats and keep making images like this.<br />
Best, Wendy</p>
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		<title>By: To hell with first post jitters, let&#8217;s just dive straight in&#8230; &#171; Follow the Breadcrumbs&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>To hell with first post jitters, let&#8217;s just dive straight in&#8230; &#171; Follow the Breadcrumbs&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is such an incredible shot taken very recently and which has made it already onto the website of the Magnum photographer David Alan Harvey [...]</description>
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		<title>By: david b</title>
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		<dc:creator>david b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country.&quot;

-- David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky&#039;s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan&#039;s &quot;Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.
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&quot;Everybody has to move, run and grab as many (Palestinian) hilltops as they can to enlarge the (Jewish) settlements because everything we take now will stay ours...Everything we don&#039;t grab will go to them.&quot;

-- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of the Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, Nov. 15, 1998.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves &#8230; politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves&#8230; The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211; David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky&#8217;s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan&#8217;s &#8220;Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.<br />
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<p>&#8220;Everybody has to move, run and grab as many (Palestinian) hilltops as they can to enlarge the (Jewish) settlements because everything we take now will stay ours&#8230;Everything we don&#8217;t grab will go to them.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211; Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of the Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, Nov. 15, 1998.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Rohner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan Rohner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perfectly understandable, well said.</description>
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		<title>By: Stefan Rohner</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/01/gaza-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-27314</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Rohner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soren
January 14, 2009 at 8:20 am
I hope you are ironic?
People are getting butchered - and you are talking about dodging and burning!

..............

Soren, you leave my my opinion, I leave you yours... ok? thank you very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soren<br />
January 14, 2009 at 8:20 am<br />
I hope you are ironic?<br />
People are getting butchered &#8211; and you are talking about dodging and burning!</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Soren, you leave my my opinion, I leave you yours&#8230; ok? thank you very much.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike R</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/01/gaza-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-27291</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok Lassal, I understand. I have been aware of Duane Michals&#039; work for many years. He uses photography and language as a form of artistic statement. I once had a book &quot;Darkroom&quot; from Lustrum Press&quot; (1977). I wore it away. among the featured darkroom users were Duane Michals, Jerry Burchard and Ralph Gibson. You probably are aware of them: your work and theirs resonate similar emotions.

My German comprises of &quot;One large beer please&quot; and &quot;Have you a tablet for headache&quot;!!!

Best wishes,

Mike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok Lassal, I understand. I have been aware of Duane Michals&#8217; work for many years. He uses photography and language as a form of artistic statement. I once had a book &#8220;Darkroom&#8221; from Lustrum Press&#8221; (1977). I wore it away. among the featured darkroom users were Duane Michals, Jerry Burchard and Ralph Gibson. You probably are aware of them: your work and theirs resonate similar emotions.</p>
<p>My German comprises of &#8220;One large beer please&#8221; and &#8220;Have you a tablet for headache&#8221;!!!</p>
<p>Best wishes,</p>
<p>Mike.</p>
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		<title>By: alun severn</title>
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		<dc:creator>alun severn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrific photograph. I sort of take the point that a couple of posters have made about the extreme highlights in bottom left but that&#039;s more of an issue of taste than judgement. I love reportage that leaves space for lyricism -- it makes for powerful pictures that still leave room for the viewer&#039;s interpretation -- so I love this. Well done, Laith.

cheers,   alun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrific photograph. I sort of take the point that a couple of posters have made about the extreme highlights in bottom left but that&#8217;s more of an issue of taste than judgement. I love reportage that leaves space for lyricism &#8212; it makes for powerful pictures that still leave room for the viewer&#8217;s interpretation &#8212; so I love this. Well done, Laith.</p>
<p>cheers,   alun</p>
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		<title>By: cathy scholl</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/01/gaza-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-27284</link>
		<dc:creator>cathy scholl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Soren. I added him as a contact.
Do we know if any of these images have been published?
It seems a waste for this kind of work to not be SEEN in a big way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Soren. I added him as a contact.<br />
Do we know if any of these images have been published?<br />
It seems a waste for this kind of work to not be SEEN in a big way.</p>
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		<title>By: Lassal</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/01/gaza-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-27260</link>
		<dc:creator>Lassal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Søren,

I do get your point. But you yourself are showing us WHY this discussion here is important!
To explain your point you are showing us powerful photographs that speak and communicate. Photographs that cry out loud and scream for interference. Why? Not only because the situation there is terrible, but also because the photographs are excellent!

We are here as photographers to talk about how to approach this, how to manage to get to these powerful photographs. We discuss the impact a photograph has on us and what would be necessary to optimize them. So that, at the end, these photographs can go out there into the world to speak to the masses, so that something can be changed in the terrible situation in Gaza, Jordan, Zimbabwe, Haiti, there are so many  ......... 

Søren, the photographs are our &quot;weapons&quot; and &quot;shields&quot;. And we are sitting together to make them better. Unfortunately this means to talk about certain things that do sound absolutely crazy when you think of the topic of the photograph .... I agree!!! And I am sure everyone here does to!

But ... doing what we are doing we are DOING something. Maybe we are no great fighters with real weapons, maybe we are no good politicians or diplomats who could convince various countries to finally opt for peace ... But we try to be good photographers, so that our photographs get out there, much as the ones that you showed to us, to FIGHT for the cause!!!!

That is our way. That is, in my eyes a good way. The best that I myself could do. I would not be helping in any way by merely going crazy here over the horrors of war. But maybe some good PJs can do something with his photographs. Photographs that are passed along. Photographs that speak so directly that not a 1000 words could replace them. Photographs that are accepted in being powerful.
There was just a huge article here in the news talking about how the different parties in the war are trying to controll the pictures that go out into the news. Why? Because they can change the worlds mind. On the other hand side: if there are no photographs, things are not on people&#039;s minds.

Yes. Sometimes the words used here might not be appropriate for the topic. But maybe you can forgive us under the light of what we are trying to achieve. And maybe you can help us to become better. 

Thank you for your input. 

Sincerely,
Lassal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Søren,</p>
<p>I do get your point. But you yourself are showing us WHY this discussion here is important!<br />
To explain your point you are showing us powerful photographs that speak and communicate. Photographs that cry out loud and scream for interference. Why? Not only because the situation there is terrible, but also because the photographs are excellent!</p>
<p>We are here as photographers to talk about how to approach this, how to manage to get to these powerful photographs. We discuss the impact a photograph has on us and what would be necessary to optimize them. So that, at the end, these photographs can go out there into the world to speak to the masses, so that something can be changed in the terrible situation in Gaza, Jordan, Zimbabwe, Haiti, there are so many  &#8230;&#8230;&#8230; </p>
<p>Søren, the photographs are our &#8220;weapons&#8221; and &#8220;shields&#8221;. And we are sitting together to make them better. Unfortunately this means to talk about certain things that do sound absolutely crazy when you think of the topic of the photograph &#8230;. I agree!!! And I am sure everyone here does to!</p>
<p>But &#8230; doing what we are doing we are DOING something. Maybe we are no great fighters with real weapons, maybe we are no good politicians or diplomats who could convince various countries to finally opt for peace &#8230; But we try to be good photographers, so that our photographs get out there, much as the ones that you showed to us, to FIGHT for the cause!!!!</p>
<p>That is our way. That is, in my eyes a good way. The best that I myself could do. I would not be helping in any way by merely going crazy here over the horrors of war. But maybe some good PJs can do something with his photographs. Photographs that are passed along. Photographs that speak so directly that not a 1000 words could replace them. Photographs that are accepted in being powerful.<br />
There was just a huge article here in the news talking about how the different parties in the war are trying to controll the pictures that go out into the news. Why? Because they can change the worlds mind. On the other hand side: if there are no photographs, things are not on people&#8217;s minds.</p>
<p>Yes. Sometimes the words used here might not be appropriate for the topic. But maybe you can forgive us under the light of what we are trying to achieve. And maybe you can help us to become better. </p>
<p>Thank you for your input. </p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Lassal</p>
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		<title>By: david bowen</title>
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		<dc:creator>david bowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no question that what is happening in gaza is disgusting.

here in norway some newspapers have been bold enough to publish REAL photos of the more disturbing aspects of the israeli action and MORE POWER TO THEM.
certainly more graphic than anything i have seen in other countries.. and one more graphic than the flickr set, which as i noted above is extraordinary.

soren - it is a simple photograph on a simple photo community site and i would not chastise any for reading into it or appreciating this photo.. this is not a political forum, after all.. and bob, who you single out, does a great deal of good in educating eyes - which is what this place is about.. i was pleased to see a reference to gaza at all.. because of the many blogs out there, so very few have bothered.

we´re all angry about it.. furious at our relative countries inaction.. furious with u.s. politicians for not backing directly a ceasefire.. 

we´re fighting the same fight i am sure..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no question that what is happening in gaza is disgusting.</p>
<p>here in norway some newspapers have been bold enough to publish REAL photos of the more disturbing aspects of the israeli action and MORE POWER TO THEM.<br />
certainly more graphic than anything i have seen in other countries.. and one more graphic than the flickr set, which as i noted above is extraordinary.</p>
<p>soren &#8211; it is a simple photograph on a simple photo community site and i would not chastise any for reading into it or appreciating this photo.. this is not a political forum, after all.. and bob, who you single out, does a great deal of good in educating eyes &#8211; which is what this place is about.. i was pleased to see a reference to gaza at all.. because of the many blogs out there, so very few have bothered.</p>
<p>we´re all angry about it.. furious at our relative countries inaction.. furious with u.s. politicians for not backing directly a ceasefire.. </p>
<p>we´re fighting the same fight i am sure..</p>
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		<title>By: david bowen</title>
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		<dc:creator>david bowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey darrius

i saw them recently as well.. tough.. very very tough.

thanks.</description>
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<p>i saw them recently as well.. tough.. very very tough.</p>
<p>thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: david alan harvey</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/works-in-progress/2009/01/gaza-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-27252</link>
		<dc:creator>david alan harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SOREN...

i understand your anger...we are all angry....and you are right, none of us can know the real pain that is totally unimaginable for those of us now sitting at our keyboards...this picture certainly was not published here as anything other than what it is...one simple picture of one man&#039;s pain...symbolic but certainly not all inclusive, nor all explaining, of the scenario that is erupting before our eyes at this moment...as i write you now, CNN is showing me even more carnage and the live coverage television offers cannot be realistically matched here...

however, in the history of conflict photography , single photographs have done more to &quot;get&quot; to people than all of the explanatory larger coverage...i am not suggesting this is such a picture...but i do see it as a symbol of pain, if not telling us of all the pain....

please remember i only am publishing here what the readers of BURN send to me..i am not accessing the news services, nor do i intend to do so...this is not the purpose nor the point of BURN..i would be very pleased if you were to submit what you think are appropriate photographs for discussion..

your outrage is well taken believe me...your outrage is my outrage...unfortunately, i do not think we are going to see any end in sight any time soon....

many thanks for your comment....

cheers, david</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOREN&#8230;</p>
<p>i understand your anger&#8230;we are all angry&#8230;.and you are right, none of us can know the real pain that is totally unimaginable for those of us now sitting at our keyboards&#8230;this picture certainly was not published here as anything other than what it is&#8230;one simple picture of one man&#8217;s pain&#8230;symbolic but certainly not all inclusive, nor all explaining, of the scenario that is erupting before our eyes at this moment&#8230;as i write you now, CNN is showing me even more carnage and the live coverage television offers cannot be realistically matched here&#8230;</p>
<p>however, in the history of conflict photography , single photographs have done more to &#8220;get&#8221; to people than all of the explanatory larger coverage&#8230;i am not suggesting this is such a picture&#8230;but i do see it as a symbol of pain, if not telling us of all the pain&#8230;.</p>
<p>please remember i only am publishing here what the readers of BURN send to me..i am not accessing the news services, nor do i intend to do so&#8230;this is not the purpose nor the point of BURN..i would be very pleased if you were to submit what you think are appropriate photographs for discussion..</p>
<p>your outrage is well taken believe me&#8230;your outrage is my outrage&#8230;unfortunately, i do not think we are going to see any end in sight any time soon&#8230;.</p>
<p>many thanks for your comment&#8230;.</p>
<p>cheers, david</p>
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		<title>By: Soren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Soren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you who don&#039;t understand my point.

Take a look at this flickr-set - and try to apply the comments from this thread...</description>
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<p>Take a look at this flickr-set &#8211; and try to apply the comments from this thread&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Soren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is this? Documentary? Art? 

An injured man is placed into a car. 

People like it, because it reminds them of the ongoing conflict -  without being unpleasantly graphic. We don’t want to loose our appetite…

We see just the right amount of pain in the facial expression – not so little that we would doubt his pain – and not so much that it becomes painful to look at. 

I don’t have anything against this photo, but I find the comments surreal and creepy. 

Almost a 1000 people have been butchered so far – one third of them are children!

I find that it’s not appropriate for this community to sit and discussing burning and dodging techniques, -  while children are bleeding, suffocating, crying in fear, getting eyes smashed by shrapnel and legs demolished by DIME bombs!

I think that BOBBLACK’s comment is somewhat symptomatic for this community:

 &lt;i&gt; “we get pushed up against the glass, the fear and smoke, the pain and anger and madness of what is currently going on, both in gaza and throughout the world […] besides the obvious visual complexity and emotional power of the photograph, what i cherish about it is that it takes me RIGHT THERE: into the heart of the fever and the madness and confusion…”&lt;/i&gt;

No Bobblack, “we” are not pushed up against the glass fear and smoke here. This is nothing. AND it doesn’t take “you” into the “heart of the fever and the madness and confusion”. This is nothing –and you know nothing of the situation in Gaza after looking at this picture. AND it’s not about “you” or “we” or our emotions to the photo. It is about “them”. Those who cry and fear and bleed and die! 

Bobblack and the other commenter’s intellectualized treatment of Gaza atrocity and associated photos is highly inappropriate – to put it mildly…

We, this community, are sitting in comfy chairs spread around the world in safe distance from anything remotely harmful. We are looking at a photo which reminds us of the situation in Gaza. But at the same time the picture is “soft” enough to not be too disturbing – actually we like the composition – and it’s kind of “nice”…

What is wrong with the “big picture” here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is this? Documentary? Art? </p>
<p>An injured man is placed into a car. </p>
<p>People like it, because it reminds them of the ongoing conflict &#8211;  without being unpleasantly graphic. We don’t want to loose our appetite…</p>
<p>We see just the right amount of pain in the facial expression – not so little that we would doubt his pain – and not so much that it becomes painful to look at. </p>
<p>I don’t have anything against this photo, but I find the comments surreal and creepy. </p>
<p>Almost a 1000 people have been butchered so far – one third of them are children!</p>
<p>I find that it’s not appropriate for this community to sit and discussing burning and dodging techniques, &#8211;  while children are bleeding, suffocating, crying in fear, getting eyes smashed by shrapnel and legs demolished by DIME bombs!</p>
<p>I think that BOBBLACK’s comment is somewhat symptomatic for this community:</p>
<p> <i> “we get pushed up against the glass, the fear and smoke, the pain and anger and madness of what is currently going on, both in gaza and throughout the world […] besides the obvious visual complexity and emotional power of the photograph, what i cherish about it is that it takes me RIGHT THERE: into the heart of the fever and the madness and confusion…”</i></p>
<p>No Bobblack, “we” are not pushed up against the glass fear and smoke here. This is nothing. AND it doesn’t take “you” into the “heart of the fever and the madness and confusion”. This is nothing –and you know nothing of the situation in Gaza after looking at this picture. AND it’s not about “you” or “we” or our emotions to the photo. It is about “them”. Those who cry and fear and bleed and die! </p>
<p>Bobblack and the other commenter’s intellectualized treatment of Gaza atrocity and associated photos is highly inappropriate – to put it mildly…</p>
<p>We, this community, are sitting in comfy chairs spread around the world in safe distance from anything remotely harmful. We are looking at a photo which reminds us of the situation in Gaza. But at the same time the picture is “soft” enough to not be too disturbing – actually we like the composition – and it’s kind of “nice”…</p>
<p>What is wrong with the “big picture” here?</p>
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		<title>By: Soren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you are ironic?

People are getting butchered - and you are talking about dodging and burning!</description>
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<p>People are getting butchered &#8211; and you are talking about dodging and burning!</p>
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