Comments on: Up from the Sands https://www.burnmagazine.org/in-the-spotlight/2014/04/up-from-the-sands/ burn is an online feature for emerging photographers worldwide. burn is curated by magnum photographer david alan harvey. Sat, 18 Jun 2016 11:45:22 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2.4 By: tfleisch https://www.burnmagazine.org/in-the-spotlight/2014/04/up-from-the-sands/#comment-314767 Wed, 23 Apr 2014 01:47:49 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=22215#comment-314767 Hi David,
How about ‘Up from Sands’?
Look forward to seeing the photographs!
Tracy

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By: piterkin https://www.burnmagazine.org/in-the-spotlight/2014/04/up-from-the-sands/#comment-311076 Wed, 16 Apr 2014 20:16:12 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=22215#comment-311076 Hi David,

I really like Up from the Sands. It has all: mystery but also hints where this all comes from. My best shot: Modern Mirage

Greetings from Warsaw!

Piotr

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By: j.c.smallwood https://www.burnmagazine.org/in-the-spotlight/2014/04/up-from-the-sands/#comment-310986 Wed, 16 Apr 2014 17:33:53 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=22215#comment-310986 David, I live in Dubai and am used to seeing the side of it they want you to see: photoshopped HDR photos of happy people infront of shiny buildings. I’m excited to see your twist on it.

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By: dellicson https://www.burnmagazine.org/in-the-spotlight/2014/04/up-from-the-sands/#comment-310460 Tue, 15 Apr 2014 22:25:53 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=22215#comment-310460 Hi DAH,

Is the Emerging Photographer Fund happening this year again?

Best,

Davin

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By: david alan harvey https://www.burnmagazine.org/in-the-spotlight/2014/04/up-from-the-sands/#comment-308982 Sat, 12 Apr 2014 11:24:06 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=22215#comment-308982 In reply to kellylynnjames.

KELLY

pretty good title….White Hot could work…..and a bit less normal magazine title oriented….you definitely remain a key person on my title team!!!

i do hope our paths cross again soonest….

big hugs, love back to you..

cheers, david

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By: a civilian-mass audience https://www.burnmagazine.org/in-the-spotlight/2014/04/up-from-the-sands/#comment-308937 Sat, 12 Apr 2014 05:42:15 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=22215#comment-308937 “Burning Sand…”

reporting from broken Grecolandia!

I LOVE YOU ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!

civi

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By: kellylynnjames https://www.burnmagazine.org/in-the-spotlight/2014/04/up-from-the-sands/#comment-308713 Thu, 10 Apr 2014 21:21:04 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=22215#comment-308713 Hi David,

Lance sent me this link. I hadn’t seen it yet. Thanks for the love, but as always you are the energy, spark, and fire. :)

I’ll throw in an idea and keep with the theme… what about “White Hot”. I’ve only seen a bit of the work but I’m sure is has as solid dose of white robes, sand, sun, and sexuality.

Big love and hugs,
Kelly

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By: Paul https://www.burnmagazine.org/in-the-spotlight/2014/04/up-from-the-sands/#comment-308588 Thu, 10 Apr 2014 04:39:13 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=22215#comment-308588 I’m OK with the original title… But here’s a few more…
Utopia Boulevard.
The sand of Shangri-la.
Babylon redux.

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By: mw https://www.burnmagazine.org/in-the-spotlight/2014/04/up-from-the-sands/#comment-308575 Thu, 10 Apr 2014 02:01:24 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=22215#comment-308575 Interesting what you write. As I meant to emphasize regarding the workers, I am aware of the cliche but not how that tracks with reality. As such, I find your characterization of the workers and their open for anyone to see camps enlightening as it goes against what many people consider common knowledge. Given the other positive things you write, maybe you should reflect that in the title. “A Near Perfect Society” would certainly be attention grabbing.

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By: Akaky https://www.burnmagazine.org/in-the-spotlight/2014/04/up-from-the-sands/#comment-308548 Wed, 09 Apr 2014 22:55:59 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=22215#comment-308548 Stars in the sea of sand?

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By: david alan harvey https://www.burnmagazine.org/in-the-spotlight/2014/04/up-from-the-sands/#comment-308537 Wed, 09 Apr 2014 21:47:27 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=22215#comment-308537 MW

sure do not mean to sound like the Dubai Chamber of Commerce..ha ha….but the place is kinda an unusual bubble on the planet…the super economic situation really has allowed a near perfect society and i cannot remember ever feeling that anywhere before…

sure THE journalistic story , told over and over, is the story of the Pakistani workers who have built this city..physically…that story is by now a bigger cliche than the story of the glitz…i am not saying it is not true…yet the worker camps are totally open for all to see….the workers come voluntarily because they can do better in Dubai than they do in Pakistan…..i would never advocate anything close to what is sometimes described as slave labor…for sure it is not that at all….workers should always be fairly paid, well treated, and have good living conditions…the Romans, the Greeks, the Vatican, the Egyptians, the Maya, the Americans and on and on and on etc etc should all have thought the same thing while building their empires, yes??

cheers, david

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By: david alan harvey https://www.burnmagazine.org/in-the-spotlight/2014/04/up-from-the-sands/#comment-308536 Wed, 09 Apr 2014 21:36:30 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=22215#comment-308536 IMAGECONSCIOUS

i like “….and Sand” good idea….thanks…a bit of mystery…like it….still ok with Up from the Sand although maybe it is too much like a NatGeo title or whatever…

for sure i am not trying to tell a BIG STORY here…this a zine and not a book…photo impressions..

anyway, i will get to layout and see where i stand…as i think most of this audience knows, i am always ready to dump a project or kill an idea ….i am very ruthless with my own work…just because i shot it does not mean i will publish it….

thanks for thinking

cheers, david

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By: imageconscious https://www.burnmagazine.org/in-the-spotlight/2014/04/up-from-the-sands/#comment-308387 Wed, 09 Apr 2014 03:18:31 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=22215#comment-308387 My title: “And Sand”

or, with the DAH ellipses: “. . . And Sand”

Up from the sands: don’t dig

Sand: meh

And Sand: suggesting there is so much more other than the sand

and that is my meager 2 cents

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By: Mike R https://www.burnmagazine.org/in-the-spotlight/2014/04/up-from-the-sands/#comment-308338 Tue, 08 Apr 2014 21:26:46 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=22215#comment-308338 David, I just read your reply to Jim. As always, no-one and nowhere is perfect. I have seen t.v. reports about the building of the city and the use of foreign labourers; mainly Bangladeshi or Indian, who work to build the city but live outside and are bussed from hostels outside the city. Some have had their passports taken from them on arrival and find it hard to leave. Nothing is simple (I almost wrote black and white!). It is an amazing city but the real story may be the movers and shakers and the builders.

Mike.

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By: M. Scott Brauer https://www.burnmagazine.org/in-the-spotlight/2014/04/up-from-the-sands/#comment-308281 Tue, 08 Apr 2014 15:44:13 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=22215#comment-308281 “Oasis” but maybe that’s a little too dreamy and loaded. “Where the desert rises” perhaps. Or “Dubailand,” which gives me just a sense of falsehood/manufacturedness to the name; also rhymes with “Island” which could be a metaphor for the city. The spelling might make for confusion on first pronunciation for someone who hasn’t heard it.

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By: andrew b. https://www.burnmagazine.org/in-the-spotlight/2014/04/up-from-the-sands/#comment-308274 Tue, 08 Apr 2014 14:25:49 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=22215#comment-308274 I like Up From the Sand.

What about “Out of the Sand” (or Sands). Can be taken literally several ways, and also figuratively….

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By: vivek https://www.burnmagazine.org/in-the-spotlight/2014/04/up-from-the-sands/#comment-308264 Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:35:00 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=22215#comment-308264 DAH

Waiting for an email reply from you.

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By: Mike R https://www.burnmagazine.org/in-the-spotlight/2014/04/up-from-the-sands/#comment-308245 Tue, 08 Apr 2014 11:27:59 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=22215#comment-308245 Daivid, I do like New Age City, as you mentioned in your post above. If you are going to document the cultural discrepancy between a nomadic heritage being lived out in a 21st century city how about Duel In The Sand?
I like the photograph, on first glance it looks like a simple snapshot but on further viewing it has quite a bit of tension in the frame. It’s ‘monochrome colour’ too.

Mike.

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By: mw https://www.burnmagazine.org/in-the-spotlight/2014/04/up-from-the-sands/#comment-308242 Tue, 08 Apr 2014 11:17:20 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=22215#comment-308242 When I read “up from the sand” in relation to Dubai, I think of oil. Thinking culturally/historically, water comes to mind. You seem to be hinting that the title represents, at least partially, a people’s economic “rise” from nomadic herders to wealthy world citizens. So it’s a triple entendre, as I read it, which is the kind of thing I like in a title (like “CIB”). I’m a bit afraid that your description in the comment above comes off a bit chamber of commerce-y. Seems I periodically read that those shiny buildings are built by armies of virtual slaves. Don’t know how true that is, but it’s out there and I’d hope the reality of it, whatever that is, would be addressed in any significant story about Dubai. Not particularly worried at this point as you’ve shown very little so far and have no history of putting lipstick on pigs, so to speak. Anyway, glad you’re finding new things to see. Sounds like an exiting publishing year ahead.

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By: david alan harvey https://www.burnmagazine.org/in-the-spotlight/2014/04/up-from-the-sands/#comment-308240 Tue, 08 Apr 2014 10:46:00 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=22215#comment-308240 JIM POWERS

Always nice to see you here Jim….For sure you are correct…The sand will indeed reclaim everything..Eventually. But not yet.

Dubai is indeed a very strange city. 90% “foreigners”….The only city where you are very unlikely to meet the locals..the indigenous population….

One really really nice thing about Dubai is that it is SAFE…I am not used to safe….You could leave your M9 sitting on the table at a restaurant by mistake, and it would be there if you came back the next day…Either still on the table or with the manager for safekeeping. You definitely do not want to commit a crime in Dubai. Tough on crime.

Another unusual thing. The Emiratis love their leaders. And why wouldn’t they? The locals are well taken care of. Totally supported. Foreigners do not do too badly either. No income tax!!!

Some negatives: Dubai is not a walk around town. You MUST have a car or taxi. Nobody walks around (except me). Similar to Los Angeles in that respect. Also no rain storm sewers or gutters. It rarely rains, but when it does the streets flood instantly. Also, you had better have a GPS even with a taxi driver. Easy to get lost. You would imagine that if you were building a city from scratch, that one would design in the grid pattern. Not sure why they did not.

There is way more good than bad in Dubai. Their plans for the future include an extensive medical tourism business. For sure there is no better airline in the world than Emirates. Priced to sell even with a last minute purchase. FRIENDLY airline personnel!

As you know my world has always been with a Spanish/Portuguese orientation. Iberia and the migration into the Americas. Of course the Spanish and Portuguese do have a high percentage of Arab blood from 700 years of occupation by the Moors who also brought the horses which the Spanish later used for the conquest of the Americas…So a big circle indeed…

Cheers, David

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