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	<title>Comments on: myrto papadopoulos &#8211; the attendants</title>
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		<title>By: semilog</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2013/02/myrto-papadopoulos-the-attendants/comment-page-1/#comment-125791</link>
		<dc:creator>semilog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Jim Powers

There are at least two &lt;i&gt;reductia ad absurdum&lt;/i&gt; in your comment.

1. That &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; possible stories have been told and that consequently we should kill ourselves now. 

2. That the only way to &quot;make a difference&quot; is to completely solve a problem. It is not difficult to argue that if one person is helped -- if one person does not contract HIV or go into liver failure due to hepatitis, for example -- a difference has been made.

The arcs of other peoples&#039; lives are not worth less than your photographic ego.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jim Powers</p>
<p>There are at least two <i>reductia ad absurdum</i> in your comment.</p>
<p>1. That <i>all</i> possible stories have been told and that consequently we should kill ourselves now. </p>
<p>2. That the only way to &#8220;make a difference&#8221; is to completely solve a problem. It is not difficult to argue that if one person is helped &#8212; if one person does not contract HIV or go into liver failure due to hepatitis, for example &#8212; a difference has been made.</p>
<p>The arcs of other peoples&#8217; lives are not worth less than your photographic ego.</p>
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		<title>By: Frostfrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frostfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2013 02:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a tough one - given the fact the theme of prostitution and trafficking has been so thoroughly covered in so many ways and, right at this moment, there are probably how many thousand photographers/videographers working on their own versions. I trust that by the time you complete this essay, you will create work that informs me and increases my understanding but I don&#039;t see that yet.

While there statements may seem a bit at odds with each other, I tend to agree with both Imants and MW. It would be great to somehow truly wrap the men patronizing these women into the story, not necessarily just in furtive glimpses to humiliate them or embarrass them and their wives and daughters, but to seek out and try to illuminate the forces within them that drive them to seek out the women you are working with.

This would be one hell of a challenge, but it would raise your essay to a new level, I think.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a tough one &#8211; given the fact the theme of prostitution and trafficking has been so thoroughly covered in so many ways and, right at this moment, there are probably how many thousand photographers/videographers working on their own versions. I trust that by the time you complete this essay, you will create work that informs me and increases my understanding but I don&#8217;t see that yet.</p>
<p>While there statements may seem a bit at odds with each other, I tend to agree with both Imants and MW. It would be great to somehow truly wrap the men patronizing these women into the story, not necessarily just in furtive glimpses to humiliate them or embarrass them and their wives and daughters, but to seek out and try to illuminate the forces within them that drive them to seek out the women you are working with.</p>
<p>This would be one hell of a challenge, but it would raise your essay to a new level, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2013/02/myrto-papadopoulos-the-attendants/comment-page-1/#comment-125272</link>
		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Continued... I think you would have much better success bringing awareness to the issue if you were to photograph the men who provide the demand for the sex trafficking and the temptation for women in economic distress to turn to prostitution. Get closeups of their faces, pictures of their cars, businesses, bosses, houses, wives and daughters. That would bring some awareness fast. These boudoir type shots are more likely to serve as advertisements. Put the focus on the perpetrators, not the victims.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Continued&#8230; I think you would have much better success bringing awareness to the issue if you were to photograph the men who provide the demand for the sex trafficking and the temptation for women in economic distress to turn to prostitution. Get closeups of their faces, pictures of their cars, businesses, bosses, houses, wives and daughters. That would bring some awareness fast. These boudoir type shots are more likely to serve as advertisements. Put the focus on the perpetrators, not the victims.</p>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
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		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mauriciolopezch expressed my initial reaction pretty well. Sex sells on so many levels, eh? That, and I find it hard to imagine how a photographer can effectively &quot;bring awareness&quot; to the issue, no matter how effective the photographs, short of working with a high-end writer and publishing in a widely read newspaper or magazine. Or possibly with an NGO if the photos would be good for their fundraising. Worthy cause though. Certainly hope your efforts do some good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mauriciolopezch expressed my initial reaction pretty well. Sex sells on so many levels, eh? That, and I find it hard to imagine how a photographer can effectively &#8220;bring awareness&#8221; to the issue, no matter how effective the photographs, short of working with a high-end writer and publishing in a widely read newspaper or magazine. Or possibly with an NGO if the photos would be good for their fundraising. Worthy cause though. Certainly hope your efforts do some good.</p>
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		<title>By: wendy</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2013/02/myrto-papadopoulos-the-attendants/comment-page-1/#comment-125219</link>
		<dc:creator>wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ohhhhhh myrto!!!
I would love to have a drink of ouzo and talk with you...
great project..
good luck!
dig deep and be safe!!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ohhhhhh myrto!!!<br />
I would love to have a drink of ouzo and talk with you&#8230;<br />
great project..<br />
good luck!<br />
dig deep and be safe!!!<br />
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		<title>By: bob black</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 12:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all Big Congratulations Myrto on having your presentation published at BURN and for sharing with us your experience. I hope and trust your project will be funded and what better way to showcase your project than at Burn and through Emphasis :))....

I know that this is a short pitch documentary and that  your hope is to delve and to explore the lives of the women whose jobs are prostitutes and i really do hope you are able to delve further into the world between the choice of being a prostitute and those who are traffic&#039;d. It was difficult for me to discern the difference here. Examining the lives of these women, seems to me, is a particularly salient project at the moment given what is happening in Greece these last 2 1/2 years and may make for quite a rich story resonant of many of the hypocricies that exist in Greece (all nations) particularly as they apply to economic austerity (read: severity) measure (the wealthy never seem to suffer, do they during times of political/economic &#039;austerity&#039;). 

What interests me about this project is less about the sex/world-of-prostitution than it is how these women engage in the very real and troubled reality that is the current economic/political situation in greece. that may sound hi falutent, but I&#039;ve known 2 woman who&#039;ve been escorts (one dealing with politicians/&#039;wealthy&#039; and one a student dealing with the rest of folk) and both suggested that they see and know more about the lives around (and at the top) than most sitting around watching tv and feeding upon the media&#039;s depiction....because of what has happened in greece, there just seems a rich vein of stories here that may just be off the norm of most documentaries about prostitution...or even traffic&#039;ing in the reality of present day greece...

anyway, best of luck and I hope it goes well for you and these women

cheers
bob]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all Big Congratulations Myrto on having your presentation published at BURN and for sharing with us your experience. I hope and trust your project will be funded and what better way to showcase your project than at Burn and through Emphasis :))&#8230;.</p>
<p>I know that this is a short pitch documentary and that  your hope is to delve and to explore the lives of the women whose jobs are prostitutes and i really do hope you are able to delve further into the world between the choice of being a prostitute and those who are traffic&#8217;d. It was difficult for me to discern the difference here. Examining the lives of these women, seems to me, is a particularly salient project at the moment given what is happening in Greece these last 2 1/2 years and may make for quite a rich story resonant of many of the hypocricies that exist in Greece (all nations) particularly as they apply to economic austerity (read: severity) measure (the wealthy never seem to suffer, do they during times of political/economic &#8216;austerity&#8217;). </p>
<p>What interests me about this project is less about the sex/world-of-prostitution than it is how these women engage in the very real and troubled reality that is the current economic/political situation in greece. that may sound hi falutent, but I&#8217;ve known 2 woman who&#8217;ve been escorts (one dealing with politicians/&#8217;wealthy&#8217; and one a student dealing with the rest of folk) and both suggested that they see and know more about the lives around (and at the top) than most sitting around watching tv and feeding upon the media&#8217;s depiction&#8230;.because of what has happened in greece, there just seems a rich vein of stories here that may just be off the norm of most documentaries about prostitution&#8230;or even traffic&#8217;ing in the reality of present day greece&#8230;</p>
<p>anyway, best of luck and I hope it goes well for you and these women</p>
<p>cheers<br />
bob</p>
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		<title>By: mauriciolopezch</title>
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		<dc:creator>mauriciolopezch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 02:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although the photographer shows a good sense of aesthetics, I did not see a whole lot of insight on how she will tackle the issue of prostitution. Most of the pictures shown here seemed to perpetuate the practice of prostitution and did not seem to criticize it. She didn´t show her point of view. At least not photographically speaking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although the photographer shows a good sense of aesthetics, I did not see a whole lot of insight on how she will tackle the issue of prostitution. Most of the pictures shown here seemed to perpetuate the practice of prostitution and did not seem to criticize it. She didn´t show her point of view. At least not photographically speaking.</p>
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		<title>By: Imants</title>
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		<dc:creator>Imants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 00:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is a pity that those who feel that it is a noble profession are not included, unfortunatly the project lacks balance]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a pity that those who feel that it is a noble profession are not included, unfortunatly the project lacks balance</p>
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		<title>By: michael kircher</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael kircher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 00:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Depends on what you mean by &quot;make a difference&quot;, Jim.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depends on what you mean by &#8220;make a difference&#8221;, Jim.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Powers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Powers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 00:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does anyone think the 10,000th story on this subject is going to make any difference at all? 

I realize a photographer has got to make a living which seems, ironically, a distinction without a difference in this case.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone think the 10,000th story on this subject is going to make any difference at all? </p>
<p>I realize a photographer has got to make a living which seems, ironically, a distinction without a difference in this case.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Bregulla</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2013/02/myrto-papadopoulos-the-attendants/comment-page-1/#comment-125125</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Bregulla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Congratulations to this important project and for being published on burn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations to this important project and for being published on burn.</p>
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		<title>By: panos skoulidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>panos skoulidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very proud of you Myrto!
Congratulations for being published in Burn..
(And big thanks to Burn editors for paying attention and supporting Myrto)
Good afternoon y&#039;all from beautiful Mexico City...the city of love and freedom !!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very proud of you Myrto!<br />
Congratulations for being published in Burn..<br />
(And big thanks to Burn editors for paying attention and supporting Myrto)<br />
Good afternoon y&#8217;all from beautiful Mexico City&#8230;the city of love and freedom !!!</p>
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