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		<title>By: dimitris apostolos</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/10/lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-113649</link>
		<dc:creator>dimitris apostolos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 19:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[:&#039;( 
i am very very sorry.

i had a pm from an editor of burn with some photos of the exhibition. it seems that all the photos are &#039;&#039;real&#039;&#039;. i believe (now) that are real, no photoshop, my photo-eyes tell me this.
sorry paul, sorry to all.

i love photograph and i am very angry when &#039;&#039;images&#039;&#039; take place from her, and we call them &#039;&#039;photographs&#039;&#039;. i have explain it. i want to forget the half of the 14 comments i wrote. i was wrong.
yes paul, burn has his own rules. i must stay only in photos, &#039;&#039;photos&#039;&#039; in my opinion.
no problem of me with all kind of arts. i leave you as i begun..
&#039;&#039;this is real art !
of course it is not ”photography” but something else.&#039;&#039;

sorry again, and i hope my english text passes (at least) my meaning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>:&#8217;(<br />
i am very very sorry.</p>
<p>i had a pm from an editor of burn with some photos of the exhibition. it seems that all the photos are &#8221;real&#8221;. i believe (now) that are real, no photoshop, my photo-eyes tell me this.<br />
sorry paul, sorry to all.</p>
<p>i love photograph and i am very angry when &#8221;images&#8221; take place from her, and we call them &#8221;photographs&#8221;. i have explain it. i want to forget the half of the 14 comments i wrote. i was wrong.<br />
yes paul, burn has his own rules. i must stay only in photos, &#8221;photos&#8221; in my opinion.<br />
no problem of me with all kind of arts. i leave you as i begun..<br />
&#8221;this is real art !<br />
of course it is not ”photography” but something else.&#8221;</p>
<p>sorry again, and i hope my english text passes (at least) my meaning.</p>
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		<title>By: dimitris apostolos</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/10/lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-113635</link>
		<dc:creator>dimitris apostolos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[does the fact that my son is probably from another fother? (just joke :-) )

yes, for your question. if we are talking about nature who has created this photos i have problem with this presentation if it is full of photoshop and nature is only advertisement. where are the &#039;&#039;originals&#039;&#039; to admire them (and nature)?
if we are talking about human interference, what is the benefit of the text? these are very good without text, without the &#039;&#039;help&#039;&#039; of nature (because there are not real products of nature)

the second image is so good for me. i repeat, the whole work is very good for me.

listen paul, we are not talking here alone, they are reading us.
let people decide whose opinion is &#039;&#039;valid as a photo&#039;&#039;.
let people decide what &#039;&#039;photo&#039;&#039; means and what &#039;&#039;image&#039;&#039; means.
i think you agree that these two, are not the same.

(dont ask me questions please, dont tell me about my value, tell your opinion, i wanted dont come back)
cheers, dimitris from greece.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does the fact that my son is probably from another fother? (just joke :-) )</p>
<p>yes, for your question. if we are talking about nature who has created this photos i have problem with this presentation if it is full of photoshop and nature is only advertisement. where are the &#8221;originals&#8221; to admire them (and nature)?<br />
if we are talking about human interference, what is the benefit of the text? these are very good without text, without the &#8221;help&#8221; of nature (because there are not real products of nature)</p>
<p>the second image is so good for me. i repeat, the whole work is very good for me.</p>
<p>listen paul, we are not talking here alone, they are reading us.<br />
let people decide whose opinion is &#8221;valid as a photo&#8221;.<br />
let people decide what &#8221;photo&#8221; means and what &#8221;image&#8221; means.<br />
i think you agree that these two, are not the same.</p>
<p>(dont ask me questions please, dont tell me about my value, tell your opinion, i wanted dont come back)<br />
cheers, dimitris from greece.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/10/lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-113625</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dimitris...

Does the fact that photoshop was probably involved in these images trouble you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dimitris&#8230;</p>
<p>Does the fact that photoshop was probably involved in these images trouble you?</p>
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		<title>By: dimitris apostolos</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/10/lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-113609</link>
		<dc:creator>dimitris apostolos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 23:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[these &#039;&#039;things&#039;&#039; are photoshop my friend, nature gives other colours.
my poor opinion is, we talk about smthing different than the photos which had selected from 500 people.
of course this is only my poor opinion, as a photographer who have seen things 32 years.
(perhaps wrong opinion, but i own this FREE opinion)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>these &#8221;things&#8221; are photoshop my friend, nature gives other colours.<br />
my poor opinion is, we talk about smthing different than the photos which had selected from 500 people.<br />
of course this is only my poor opinion, as a photographer who have seen things 32 years.<br />
(perhaps wrong opinion, but i own this FREE opinion)</p>
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		<title>By: dimitris apostolos</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/10/lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-113607</link>
		<dc:creator>dimitris apostolos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 23:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[paul, i am wondering if in the exhibition are the real photographs or photos of the photographs :-)
i m wondering who wrote the rules of this.
dont you think that there is a difference in beetween these two?

once again, sorry for my english, you must learn greek :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paul, i am wondering if in the exhibition are the real photographs or photos of the photographs :-)<br />
i m wondering who wrote the rules of this.<br />
dont you think that there is a difference in beetween these two?</p>
<p>once again, sorry for my english, you must learn greek :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/10/lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-113605</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 22:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dimitris...

I think when it comes down to one&#039;s own work one can or should write their own rules. Now if the reasons and meanings in taking a photo are thoroughly honest everything in my rule book right now at this present moment are valid as a photo. Although I&#039;m sure someone round here will remind me of some concept which isn&#039;t valid as a photo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dimitris&#8230;</p>
<p>I think when it comes down to one&#8217;s own work one can or should write their own rules. Now if the reasons and meanings in taking a photo are thoroughly honest everything in my rule book right now at this present moment are valid as a photo. Although I&#8217;m sure someone round here will remind me of some concept which isn&#8217;t valid as a photo.</p>
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		<title>By: dimitris apostolos</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/10/lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-113565</link>
		<dc:creator>dimitris apostolos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[paul, to know him is to love him :-)

every image that comes from a camera &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; photograph, but (i say).. it is not a &#039;&#039;photograph&#039;&#039;. for example.. 
1. if i paint a photo with water colours, perhaps i will create an image-art but the photo, stops to be a &#039;&#039;photograph&#039;&#039;. 
2. if i put some things in front of me and i take a photo, i have a photostat of my work, of my artistic project, not a &#039;&#039;photograph&#039;&#039;.
3. if i take a photo of a manuscript poem, i am carrying information with the help of my camera
etcetera..

if we forget the moment in time, all the images (except paintings) are photographs. 
I think is unfair..
 
i have no problem of any kind of art but..
to know &#039;&#039;photograph&#039;&#039;, is to love photograph :-)

(i know that i am not polite, but i know also that i am not subservient)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paul, to know him is to love him :-)</p>
<p>every image that comes from a camera &#8221;is&#8221; photograph, but (i say).. it is not a &#8221;photograph&#8221;. for example..<br />
1. if i paint a photo with water colours, perhaps i will create an image-art but the photo, stops to be a &#8221;photograph&#8221;.<br />
2. if i put some things in front of me and i take a photo, i have a photostat of my work, of my artistic project, not a &#8221;photograph&#8221;.<br />
3. if i take a photo of a manuscript poem, i am carrying information with the help of my camera<br />
etcetera..</p>
<p>if we forget the moment in time, all the images (except paintings) are photographs.<br />
I think is unfair..</p>
<p>i have no problem of any kind of art but..<br />
to know &#8221;photograph&#8221;, is to love photograph :-)</p>
<p>(i know that i am not polite, but i know also that i am not subservient)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/10/lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-113557</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 05:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dimitris...

No worries, stay with us and keep on posting comments round here on Burn :)!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dimitris&#8230;</p>
<p>No worries, stay with us and keep on posting comments round here on Burn :)!</p>
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		<title>By: dimitris apostolos</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/10/lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-113543</link>
		<dc:creator>dimitris apostolos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[imants, paul, we talk about images here, about aesthetically pleasing, about feelings..
sorry, i thought we talked about photographs.
about moments in time..

i&#039;m very sorry, i wanted to forgive me all of you.
excuse me because i didn&#039;t understand.
wrong place for me..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>imants, paul, we talk about images here, about aesthetically pleasing, about feelings..<br />
sorry, i thought we talked about photographs.<br />
about moments in time..</p>
<p>i&#8217;m very sorry, i wanted to forgive me all of you.<br />
excuse me because i didn&#8217;t understand.<br />
wrong place for me..</p>
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		<title>By: Imants</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/10/lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-113539</link>
		<dc:creator>Imants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As for technique it is very akin to using light on film in a box called a camera]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for technique it is very akin to using light on film in a box called a camera</p>
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		<title>By: Imants</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/10/lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-113538</link>
		<dc:creator>Imants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paul your reaction does not surprise me at all. Most here are reacting to what happened not the images themselves. Here on burn  with the over saturated colours things look aesthetically pleasing and without the text the responses would be very different.
  Get together with some people and a gallery and apply to host it in Spain if that is possible]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul your reaction does not surprise me at all. Most here are reacting to what happened not the images themselves. Here on burn  with the over saturated colours things look aesthetically pleasing and without the text the responses would be very different.<br />
  Get together with some people and a gallery and apply to host it in Spain if that is possible</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/10/lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-113537</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dimitris...

The theme is whatever I feel like just as it should be exactly the same for you. I wasn&#039;t comparing these images with Eggleston&#039;s photos I was only comparing my blasé reaction to this essay with the same feeling/reaction some feel towards Eggleston&#039;s work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dimitris&#8230;</p>
<p>The theme is whatever I feel like just as it should be exactly the same for you. I wasn&#8217;t comparing these images with Eggleston&#8217;s photos I was only comparing my blasé reaction to this essay with the same feeling/reaction some feel towards Eggleston&#8217;s work.</p>
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		<title>By: dimitris apostolos</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/10/lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-113529</link>
		<dc:creator>dimitris apostolos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[awful circumstances or the circumstances are awful (it is different)
i dont understand paul. the theme is not like or dislike (I LIKE THE WORK)
your example with eggleston is not correct for the situation, the photos of eggleston are &#039;&#039;photos&#039;&#039;, someone like them, someone do not.
the situation is about the photographer and the photos. who is the phtographer (nature or a person)? are these &#039;&#039;photographs&#039;&#039; (or just images of art)?
i didn&#039;t take an answer on it. only positions who reminds me of politics, for example..&#039;&#039;natural emergence a bit like osmosis&#039;&#039;

if the rules of burn are only like-dislike (like facebook), tell me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awful circumstances or the circumstances are awful (it is different)<br />
i dont understand paul. the theme is not like or dislike (I LIKE THE WORK)<br />
your example with eggleston is not correct for the situation, the photos of eggleston are &#8221;photos&#8221;, someone like them, someone do not.<br />
the situation is about the photographer and the photos. who is the phtographer (nature or a person)? are these &#8221;photographs&#8221; (or just images of art)?<br />
i didn&#8217;t take an answer on it. only positions who reminds me of politics, for example..&#8221;natural emergence a bit like osmosis&#8221;</p>
<p>if the rules of burn are only like-dislike (like facebook), tell me.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/10/lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-113527</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know if this is of any significance or interest but for example this essay does absolutely nothing to me whatsoever. I feel no more empathy for those stricken by these awful circumstances than I did before the first viewing on Burn. I&#039;m trying to see what everyone else is touched by just don&#039;t get it, kinda like a friend of mine who just doesn&#039;t understand my love of William Eggleston&#039;s photography.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if this is of any significance or interest but for example this essay does absolutely nothing to me whatsoever. I feel no more empathy for those stricken by these awful circumstances than I did before the first viewing on Burn. I&#8217;m trying to see what everyone else is touched by just don&#8217;t get it, kinda like a friend of mine who just doesn&#8217;t understand my love of William Eggleston&#8217;s photography.</p>
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		<title>By: dimitris apostolos</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/10/lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-113518</link>
		<dc:creator>dimitris apostolos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 05:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lets finish it.
perhaps is nature (:-P)
i accept your answer imants, not hybrid, osmosis :-)
(sorry for my personal opinion, i think it musted be an agreement opinion)
cheers, dimitris apostolos (mitsosmt01)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lets finish it.<br />
perhaps is nature (:-P)<br />
i accept your answer imants, not hybrid, osmosis :-)<br />
(sorry for my personal opinion, i think it musted be an agreement opinion)<br />
cheers, dimitris apostolos (mitsosmt01)</p>
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		<title>By: Imants</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/10/lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-113517</link>
		<dc:creator>Imants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 04:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[natural emergence a bit like osmosis]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>natural emergence a bit like osmosis</p>
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		<title>By: dimitris apostolos</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/10/lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-113515</link>
		<dc:creator>dimitris apostolos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 04:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;&#039;The question isn’t really how it was created&#039;&#039;
thanks mw..
this is the point for me (who is the photographer? human beeing or the nature?)
did we talk in this presentation about emerging photographers or is this presentation a break?

either nature either photoshop, the first photographs are &#039;&#039;photographs&#039;&#039;. these are hybrids, good work (real art) but hybrids, not &#039;&#039;true&#039;&#039; photographs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;The question isn’t really how it was created&#8221;<br />
thanks mw..<br />
this is the point for me (who is the photographer? human beeing or the nature?)<br />
did we talk in this presentation about emerging photographers or is this presentation a break?</p>
<p>either nature either photoshop, the first photographs are &#8221;photographs&#8221;. these are hybrids, good work (real art) but hybrids, not &#8221;true&#8221; photographs.</p>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/10/lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-113494</link>
		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 22:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dimitris, regarding #18, that image was created by nature, as was every other image in the slideshow. The question isn&#039;t really how it was created, but why it is being exhibited and what for? 

No need to apologize for your English, it&#039;s great. Keep at it, you&#039;ll be better than us native speakers in no time. It&#039;s the thought that counts most.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dimitris, regarding #18, that image was created by nature, as was every other image in the slideshow. The question isn&#8217;t really how it was created, but why it is being exhibited and what for? </p>
<p>No need to apologize for your English, it&#8217;s great. Keep at it, you&#8217;ll be better than us native speakers in no time. It&#8217;s the thought that counts most.</p>
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		<title>By: dimitris apostolos</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/10/lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-113492</link>
		<dc:creator>dimitris apostolos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 21:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[perhaps the first or the second photo.. congratulations nature.
what a parody..
(one guest less)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perhaps the first or the second photo.. congratulations nature.<br />
what a parody..<br />
(one guest less)</p>
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		<title>By: dimitris apostolos</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/10/lost-found/comment-page-1/#comment-113491</link>
		<dc:creator>dimitris apostolos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 21:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[imant, you dont answer to me in essence. no problem for me.
can i ask what does guest means? no opinion?

i repeat, as &#039;&#039;work&#039;&#039; is very very good for me.
and i wanted a no-politic answer. do you believe that photo number 18, has created from nature?
(sorry for my english)]]></description>
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can i ask what does guest means? no opinion?</p>
<p>i repeat, as &#8221;work&#8221; is very very good for me.<br />
and i wanted a no-politic answer. do you believe that photo number 18, has created from nature?<br />
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