Comments on: Edite Haberman – It’s a Girl https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/09/edite-haberman-its-a-girl/ burn is an online feature for emerging photographers worldwide. burn is curated by magnum photographer david alan harvey. Sat, 18 Jun 2016 11:08:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2.4 By: dhyannai https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/09/edite-haberman-its-a-girl/#comment-462876 Sun, 10 Aug 2014 22:52:48 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=12170#comment-462876 Personal interface with these universal, yet totally fresh, images was haunting and full; all senses engaged in receiving a very subtle and tender experience: MY experience, as it was so artfully evoked by Edite’s beautiful piece.
Such spaciousness and clarity allowed a healing in the moment. I wasn’t suffocated by an over-intensity of imagery or superimposition. What a relief! No need for the intellect to become involved. (How would anyone benefit from such a useless overlay onto this material, anyway?)
I am grateful for the opportunity to just breathe it all in …

Dawn

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By: Gerhard Clausing https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/09/edite-haberman-its-a-girl/#comment-113863 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 14:59:13 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=12170#comment-113863 Excellent observations, Stewart.

Free speech rules, but on a website for photographers one would expect less nastiness than in the rest of the internet. One could just accept another person’s reality and emotions as they choose to express them through their art without attacking the art. But then, throughout history, all new artistic expression has been attacked because it presented unexpected artistic style(s), and maybe also because it confronted people with issues they did not want to face.

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By: Stewart Weir https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/09/edite-haberman-its-a-girl/#comment-113853 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:22:45 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=12170#comment-113853 We all live in our own reality. Our reality is unique to us therefore when we are presented with words, images or concepts that dont fit within our values or conceptions of the world/people around us we either choose to let it go or voice an opinion or become militant. This is a personal journey that Edite has chosen and whether you resonate with the series or not its irrelevant. Her reality is based not only on her physical and emotional experiences since birth but also the Karma of past life experiences brought forward into this life. Her expression of her personal pain is via imagery and it will resonate deeply with others who have that same pain.

Creativity is a reflection of our personality and an expression of emotion. Without emotion your just an automaton regurgitating someone else’s concept or style. When you create an image are you copying another’s style or using imagery as a metaphor for your emotional pain/communication as a way of understanding that pain more or just going through the motions subconsciously taking the same type of image over and over again?

I began a series of images about woodlands and specifically trees last year. In an intense romantic relationship I knew long before it ended that it would end and the woodlands series is about my intense feeling of love for her and our times we spent in nature. I continue the series as a release for my heartbreak.. It will see the light of day and when I have finished it I will have resolved my loss. I understand Edite very well because I suffer loss albeit a different form. If you have never suffered loss then this work will go over your head.

Say what you feel about this work.. free speech rules but to completely dismiss another’s heartfelt creations.. their emotional release is just plain nasty.

Thats my reality speaking!!

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By: Frostfrog https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/09/edite-haberman-its-a-girl/#comment-113263 Fri, 05 Oct 2012 01:12:22 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=12170#comment-113263 You are a very confusing person, Robert… But what the hell. Life is confusing.

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By: RobertLarson https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/09/edite-haberman-its-a-girl/#comment-113257 Thu, 04 Oct 2012 17:18:35 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=12170#comment-113257 FrostFrog… I don’t get it. Thats is what I was trying to say. The opposite of getting it. I was saying that I do not understand the piece. But that does not mean I believe, simply for that reason, that many others do not as well.

Two separate things. There is my understanding of the piece, and then there is my interpretation of the comments themselves.

Imants… ah yes! Hindsight bias. You said it much more clearly than I did.

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By: Frostfrog https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/09/edite-haberman-its-a-girl/#comment-113248 Thu, 04 Oct 2012 03:56:00 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=12170#comment-113248 Robert, I made no attempt to quote you and so I did not change your wording or twist your words. It may be that I misinterpreted your intent, but I do think “you don’t get it,” to be a logical interpretation of “For me, watching this was like opening a strangers journal and not being able to read the language.”

You might argue that, “but trying to study the handwriting to get to know the individual,” implies otherwise, that maybe you did get it, but I think that is a bit of leap. I think you could study the handwriting of most people for a long time and never get them.

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By: Imants https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/09/edite-haberman-its-a-girl/#comment-113241 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 22:18:13 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=12170#comment-113241 I suspect many commentators here exaggerate just how well they understand the piece…………..hindsight mentality dictates a lot of the comments.

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By: RobertLarson https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/09/edite-haberman-its-a-girl/#comment-113231 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 17:42:25 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=12170#comment-113231 Frostfrog… I do not say that because I DON’T GET IT. I’d say the same thing about something I do get, if I felt that it might likely be the same. Don’t twist my words. You changed the wording and therefore the meaning. I did not point my finger everyone who claims to understands it, and then state that they actually do not. I just get the sense that some of the positive feedback is coming from a place of insecurity rather than actual understanding. I cannot prove this… I know. It’s just an impression I have… you can consider for yourselves if I am right or not.

“It’s fine if any particular work of art doesn’t reach anyone in particular, as long as it reaches some. No need to feel bad if a particular piece doesn’t reach you.”

Gerhard… I couldn’t agree more.

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By: Gerhard Clausing https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/09/edite-haberman-its-a-girl/#comment-113217 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 06:01:18 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=12170#comment-113217 Some art reaches some people, other art reaches others.

Art works best when it’s full of ambiguity (unlike photojournalism).

It’s fine if any particular work of art doesn’t reach anyone in particular, as long as it reaches some. No need to feel bad if a particular piece doesn’t reach you.

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By: Frostfrog https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/09/edite-haberman-its-a-girl/#comment-113205 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 01:56:00 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=12170#comment-113205 Robert…. Hmmmmmmmmm… You don’t get something, therefore those who claim to must be exaggerating…

This would include David, who has not expressed an opinion but obviously thought enough of it to put it on Burn.

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By: RobertLarson https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/09/edite-haberman-its-a-girl/#comment-113200 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 00:33:14 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=12170#comment-113200 Chairman’s comment is exactly how I felt. For me, watching this was like opening a strangers journal and not being able to read the language; but trying to study the handwriting to get to know the individual. I suspect many commentators here exaggerate just how well they understand the piece… feeling obligated to be understanding and encouraging due to the sensitive subject matter. I’m not saying that because I didn’t understand it… just from impressions.

I didn’t connect with the images at all. But I am glad it was posted here because it sparked a fascinating conversation. I’ve always learned more from the essays on Burn that I don’t enjoy, than from the ones I do.

Edite… I am glad I saw your essay. I hope you don’t just accept the compliments as valid and dismiss the others.

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By: Carlo https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/09/edite-haberman-its-a-girl/#comment-113081 Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:27:06 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=12170#comment-113081 Here is to hoping you are well Panos.
All the best.

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By: panos skoulidas https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/09/edite-haberman-its-a-girl/#comment-113067 Mon, 01 Oct 2012 02:31:57 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=12170#comment-113067 I knew it was important and deep to somebody, but just not to me.
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fair enough…ignorance is a bliss…lucky you

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By: Chairman https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/09/edite-haberman-its-a-girl/#comment-113066 Mon, 01 Oct 2012 02:13:13 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=12170#comment-113066 It is possible to be too close to your subject, I think. This essay may indeed have great meaning for its author, but it is utterly meaningless to me. I kept thinking that I should **feel something**, but I didn’t. There is nothing here for me to connect to, nothing that relates to me or my life at all, just strange photos of dolls heads. I knew it was important and deep to somebody, but just not to me.

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By: edite https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/09/edite-haberman-its-a-girl/#comment-113036 Sun, 30 Sep 2012 02:30:11 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=12170#comment-113036 Thank you Bill so much.

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By: Frostfrog https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/09/edite-haberman-its-a-girl/#comment-113034 Sun, 30 Sep 2012 01:46:46 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=12170#comment-113034 You deserve it, Edite. You are a true artist – as I knew from the moment I first saw your slaughterhouse work in New York, then your Hasidic essay, now reconfirmed here.

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By: Frostfrog https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/09/edite-haberman-its-a-girl/#comment-113033 Sun, 30 Sep 2012 01:42:34 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=12170#comment-113033 Yes… Hugs, Panos. My condolences.

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By: Gordon Lafleur https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/09/edite-haberman-its-a-girl/#comment-113031 Sun, 30 Sep 2012 00:58:55 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=12170#comment-113031 Hugs Panos

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By: edite https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/09/edite-haberman-its-a-girl/#comment-113030 Sun, 30 Sep 2012 00:28:57 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=12170#comment-113030 Frostfrog Bill- your words and the words of many others touch me and fill me with gratitude.

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By: edite https://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/09/edite-haberman-its-a-girl/#comment-113029 Sun, 30 Sep 2012 00:05:56 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=12170#comment-113029 Panos, H U G E H U G

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