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	<title>Comments on: maki maki &#8211; welcome 2 my room</title>
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	<description>burn is an online feature for emerging photographers worldwide. burn is curated by magnum photographer david alan harvey.</description>
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		<title>By: ONE GIANT ARM ISSUE #4 &#8216;WHITE AND BLACK&#8217; UPDATE &#124; one giant arm</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/08/maki-maki-welcome-2-my-room/comment-page-2/#comment-139484</link>
		<dc:creator>ONE GIANT ARM ISSUE #4 &#8216;WHITE AND BLACK&#8217; UPDATE &#124; one giant arm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2013 11:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] spooner, cecile maycec, thomas kimmerlin, tommy sussex, matt sanchez, dan porter, maki maki, oliver dignal, erica lou, boris hoppek, oz hope, ben drusinsky, franck doussott, mathew [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] spooner, cecile maycec, thomas kimmerlin, tommy sussex, matt sanchez, dan porter, maki maki, oliver dignal, erica lou, boris hoppek, oz hope, ben drusinsky, franck doussott, mathew [...]</p>
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		<title>By: zyfotos</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/08/maki-maki-welcome-2-my-room/comment-page-2/#comment-112306</link>
		<dc:creator>zyfotos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 06:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wonder if the photographer has a website. I&#039;m a photo editor of a magazine and is considering contact him for a photo essay...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonder if the photographer has a website. I&#8217;m a photo editor of a magazine and is considering contact him for a photo essay&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Herve</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/08/maki-maki-welcome-2-my-room/comment-page-2/#comment-112172</link>
		<dc:creator>Herve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 04:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No problem with the &quot;voyeuristic&#039; stance some may find in the essay (Hopefully, he asked these people if he could use them for a project). It&#039;s quite OK for a photographer to be a voyeur, though a point could be made that voyeurism does objectify a subject more that it individualizes it. A case in point being Martin Parr&#039;s photography, who succeeds in doing just that, while his subjects never appear less than human-ized.   

I am rather seriously non-plussed that the photographer did not do it in &quot;his backyard&quot;, say in France, if not Marseille proper. What is truly his rationale for doing the story out of South-east-asia (my contention being that in final analysis, it is to be perceived out of a specific locale, rather than out of a screen, or the internet)? 

Here again the same old western constructs about asian women (either as victims, &quot;just-a-job&quot; sex-workers or readily available cute objects, boys too by the way) are given the chance to over-run his purpose, which i think is to humanize deshumamized individuals by listening to them rather than hearing them (plus photos). 

PS: Hello BURN! still excrutiatingly slow to view the essays (main reason why i am not visiting more often), and I must admit I could not view this one entirely, even pix by pix.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem with the &#8220;voyeuristic&#8217; stance some may find in the essay (Hopefully, he asked these people if he could use them for a project). It&#8217;s quite OK for a photographer to be a voyeur, though a point could be made that voyeurism does objectify a subject more that it individualizes it. A case in point being Martin Parr&#8217;s photography, who succeeds in doing just that, while his subjects never appear less than human-ized.   </p>
<p>I am rather seriously non-plussed that the photographer did not do it in &#8220;his backyard&#8221;, say in France, if not Marseille proper. What is truly his rationale for doing the story out of South-east-asia (my contention being that in final analysis, it is to be perceived out of a specific locale, rather than out of a screen, or the internet)? </p>
<p>Here again the same old western constructs about asian women (either as victims, &#8220;just-a-job&#8221; sex-workers or readily available cute objects, boys too by the way) are given the chance to over-run his purpose, which i think is to humanize deshumamized individuals by listening to them rather than hearing them (plus photos). </p>
<p>PS: Hello BURN! still excrutiatingly slow to view the essays (main reason why i am not visiting more often), and I must admit I could not view this one entirely, even pix by pix.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Bregulla</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/08/maki-maki-welcome-2-my-room/comment-page-2/#comment-112164</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Bregulla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 15:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What we do not see, does not exist.
But there is a reality next to what we see. 
Burn makes it visible, a reality for us.

@Gracie - I hope burn would show those pictures too. Would be a contrast program, definitely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What we do not see, does not exist.<br />
But there is a reality next to what we see.<br />
Burn makes it visible, a reality for us.</p>
<p>@Gracie &#8211; I hope burn would show those pictures too. Would be a contrast program, definitely.</p>
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		<title>By: Gracie</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/08/maki-maki-welcome-2-my-room/comment-page-1/#comment-112161</link>
		<dc:creator>Gracie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 13:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder if i posed as a 12 year old and took photos of the men photographing me.
Would I be published here on Burn?
Would I have the same congratulatory remarks?
Or would my audience include the police?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if i posed as a 12 year old and took photos of the men photographing me.<br />
Would I be published here on Burn?<br />
Would I have the same congratulatory remarks?<br />
Or would my audience include the police?</p>
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		<title>By: fireblade</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/08/maki-maki-welcome-2-my-room/comment-page-1/#comment-112102</link>
		<dc:creator>fireblade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 12:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[a little ho-hum, Filipino sex workers, where else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a little ho-hum, Filipino sex workers, where else.</p>
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		<title>By: Imants</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/08/maki-maki-welcome-2-my-room/comment-page-1/#comment-112095</link>
		<dc:creator>Imants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 00:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.iamparanoid.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.iamparanoid.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: panos skoulidas</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/08/maki-maki-welcome-2-my-room/comment-page-1/#comment-112094</link>
		<dc:creator>panos skoulidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 00:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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Imants, thats how things &quot;should be&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://instagram.com/p/O_rXg5BrTn/?fb_action_ids=3107641150069&#038;fb_action_types=instapp%3Atake&#038;fb_ref=ogexp&#038;fb_source=aggregation&#038;fb_aggregation_id=282366635119873" rel="nofollow">http://instagram.com/p/O_rXg5BrTn/?fb_action_ids=3107641150069&#038;fb_action_types=instapp%3Atake&#038;fb_ref=ogexp&#038;fb_source=aggregation&#038;fb_aggregation_id=282366635119873</a></p>
<p>Imants, thats how things &#8220;should be&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: panos skoulidas</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/08/maki-maki-welcome-2-my-room/comment-page-1/#comment-112093</link>
		<dc:creator>panos skoulidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 23:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3107647790235&amp;set=a.1672776439348.67854.1835521927&amp;type=1&amp;theater]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3107647790235&#038;set=a.1672776439348.67854.1835521927&#038;type=1&#038;theater" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3107647790235&#038;set=a.1672776439348.67854.1835521927&#038;type=1&#038;theater</a></p>
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		<title>By: panos skoulidas</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/08/maki-maki-welcome-2-my-room/comment-page-1/#comment-112091</link>
		<dc:creator>panos skoulidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 23:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No I am not counting on burn it could be just a part of my network.
------------------------------
wisely said!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I am not counting on burn it could be just a part of my network.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
wisely said!</p>
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		<title>By: Imants</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/08/maki-maki-welcome-2-my-room/comment-page-1/#comment-112090</link>
		<dc:creator>Imants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 23:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ellei G 
 You  are probably not that far off the mark. Yes to the person looking from the outside it all seems to be dissipating in a way, the community aspect lost. Yep the community part on line has altered and almost lost unless David is posting  on line......... what I can see/know is that burn behind the scenes is very different and positive in growth. This doesn&#039;t mean that is is to everyone&#039;s liking but there is a definite direction and sense of purpose.
 I guess your perception of burn is a bit like the essay here we don&#039;t know the full story nor is the photographer willing to divulge too much about himself and  purpose of his activities.
 

 I guess there may be need to alter burn and let in more of the public and reading watching photographers into the so called fold. This is a lot easier said than done as the reason why people come here is varied. One of the aspects that could be altered and would lead to a  greater response and discussion is that part of the criteria of having an essay on burn the photographer will be required to respond on line. Unfortunately that is not going to happen here as part of burn&#039;s ethos is being &quot;free&quot;...... freedom in some instances has a knack of getting in the way of progress and change.
 
 One of the aspects that David touched on was a need to make sense of how the essays are presented selected and collated and this should go a long way to alter how people view this site. That need for a decent archive system is paramount, though some of the essays will not be able to be viewed on some newer hardware devices due to changes in platform etc. 
 
   Many of the  core group have gone on to new paths some because of the positive vibes of burn spurred them into their own personal journey, others were just disappointed etc. Some stay because they are just used to it, some just like it, to some it is very important etc ........... Me I remain in the hope that it will evolve into a avenue of presenting books  http://www.etrouko.com/etrouko3.html   to the public. No I am not counting on burn it could be just a part of my network.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellei G<br />
 You  are probably not that far off the mark. Yes to the person looking from the outside it all seems to be dissipating in a way, the community aspect lost. Yep the community part on line has altered and almost lost unless David is posting  on line&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; what I can see/know is that burn behind the scenes is very different and positive in growth. This doesn&#8217;t mean that is is to everyone&#8217;s liking but there is a definite direction and sense of purpose.<br />
 I guess your perception of burn is a bit like the essay here we don&#8217;t know the full story nor is the photographer willing to divulge too much about himself and  purpose of his activities.</p>
<p> I guess there may be need to alter burn and let in more of the public and reading watching photographers into the so called fold. This is a lot easier said than done as the reason why people come here is varied. One of the aspects that could be altered and would lead to a  greater response and discussion is that part of the criteria of having an essay on burn the photographer will be required to respond on line. Unfortunately that is not going to happen here as part of burn&#8217;s ethos is being &#8220;free&#8221;&#8230;&#8230; freedom in some instances has a knack of getting in the way of progress and change.</p>
<p> One of the aspects that David touched on was a need to make sense of how the essays are presented selected and collated and this should go a long way to alter how people view this site. That need for a decent archive system is paramount, though some of the essays will not be able to be viewed on some newer hardware devices due to changes in platform etc. </p>
<p>   Many of the  core group have gone on to new paths some because of the positive vibes of burn spurred them into their own personal journey, others were just disappointed etc. Some stay because they are just used to it, some just like it, to some it is very important etc &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. Me I remain in the hope that it will evolve into a avenue of presenting books  <a href="http://www.etrouko.com/etrouko3.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.etrouko.com/etrouko3.html</a>   to the public. No I am not counting on burn it could be just a part of my network.</p>
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		<title>By: panos skoulidas</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/08/maki-maki-welcome-2-my-room/comment-page-1/#comment-112089</link>
		<dc:creator>panos skoulidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 21:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David B let me give u squeeze hug! missed u bro! see u next time in kibbutz? remember it was just &quot;ours&quot; for a while ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David B let me give u squeeze hug! missed u bro! see u next time in kibbutz? remember it was just &#8220;ours&#8221; for a while ?</p>
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		<title>By: david bowen</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/08/maki-maki-welcome-2-my-room/comment-page-1/#comment-112088</link>
		<dc:creator>david bowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 21:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Subject, of course.

Chips
D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subject, of course.</p>
<p>Chips<br />
D</p>
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		<title>By: david bowen</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/08/maki-maki-welcome-2-my-room/comment-page-1/#comment-112087</link>
		<dc:creator>david bowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 21:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like &#039;We play with it, we come with it …&#039;
And surely anyone who has indulged in an affair with their own photography or sunject obscession must.
Yes, yes, YES.
Click

Love
One of the disappeared
X]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like &#8216;We play with it, we come with it …&#8217;<br />
And surely anyone who has indulged in an affair with their own photography or sunject obscession must.<br />
Yes, yes, YES.<br />
Click</p>
<p>Love<br />
One of the disappeared<br />
X</p>
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		<title>By: david alan harvey</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/08/maki-maki-welcome-2-my-room/comment-page-1/#comment-112073</link>
		<dc:creator>david alan harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 06:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JIM POWERS

any reason why photography cannot be a mirror? i am sure you remember Mirrors and Windows at MOMA curated by John Szarkowski...wasn&#039;t the whole point that photography could be at times a window looking out and other times a mirror direct? and that the best is a combo of both...i think this is what we have here and i think this is what we have with D&#039;Agata,Goldin etc etc...

by the way, i am coming to see you in Texas....looking forward....

cheers, david]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JIM POWERS</p>
<p>any reason why photography cannot be a mirror? i am sure you remember Mirrors and Windows at MOMA curated by John Szarkowski&#8230;wasn&#8217;t the whole point that photography could be at times a window looking out and other times a mirror direct? and that the best is a combo of both&#8230;i think this is what we have here and i think this is what we have with D&#8217;Agata,Goldin etc etc&#8230;</p>
<p>by the way, i am coming to see you in Texas&#8230;.looking forward&#8230;.</p>
<p>cheers, david</p>
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		<title>By: Akaky</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/08/maki-maki-welcome-2-my-room/comment-page-1/#comment-112070</link>
		<dc:creator>Akaky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 20:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, I am, Panos.

Justin, that depends on what your definition of &#039;is&#039; is]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I am, Panos.</p>
<p>Justin, that depends on what your definition of &#8216;is&#8217; is</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/08/maki-maki-welcome-2-my-room/comment-page-1/#comment-112069</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 20:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[      
&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;“Masturbation is like procrastination. In the end you&#039;re just screwing yourself.”&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>      <br />
<b><i>“Masturbation is like procrastination. In the end you&#8217;re just screwing yourself.”</i></b></p>
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		<title>By: Justin Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/08/maki-maki-welcome-2-my-room/comment-page-1/#comment-112068</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good point, Akaky.

Not as far as Bill Clinton is concerned :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Akaky.</p>
<p>Not as far as Bill Clinton is concerned :-)</p>
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		<title>By: panos skoulidas</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/08/maki-maki-welcome-2-my-room/comment-page-1/#comment-112067</link>
		<dc:creator>panos skoulidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AKAKY technically you are absolutely correct!
2nd best comment after Imant&#039;s..are u ok with Silver medal?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AKAKY technically you are absolutely correct!<br />
2nd best comment after Imant&#8217;s..are u ok with Silver medal?</p>
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		<title>By: Akaky</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2012/08/maki-maki-welcome-2-my-room/comment-page-1/#comment-112066</link>
		<dc:creator>Akaky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...technology has (in some ways) providing a safer environment for sex workers by removing physical interaction...&quot;


Are sex workers sex workers if there&#039;s no sex involved?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;technology has (in some ways) providing a safer environment for sex workers by removing physical interaction&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Are sex workers sex workers if there&#8217;s no sex involved?</p>
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