Comments on: stacy kranitz – the other

By: Ramon Mas

Ramon Mas — Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:22:20 +0000

I have the impression that if I had access to the whole material, I would probably do a different edit (or at least would leave a few out). Still, wow, a great work with some of the best images I’ve seen in a while. Congratulations.

By: billy_mac

billy_mac — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:42:04 +0000

This is great Stacy. Right on the edge… just the way it should be!
Ruffle those feathers!
;-)

By: panos skoulidas

panos skoulidas — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:48:29 +0000

Traffic is the main thing that Scares the crapitos out of me

http://instagr.am/p/IHRm9uhrZE/

By: panos skoulidas

panos skoulidas — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:45:07 +0000

Watch out also for the yellow lines

http://instagr.am/p/IHPLKKBrYi/

By: panos skoulidas

panos skoulidas — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:41:45 +0000

Don’t believe every symbolism
U see.. U might fell into a trap ( see: religion)

http://instagr.am/p/IHQaw7BrY2/

By: panos skoulidas

panos skoulidas — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:38:14 +0000

http://instagr.am/p/IHQuZnBrY7/

Another universal Symbol click above

By: panos skoulidas

panos skoulidas — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:34:12 +0000

I’m afraid that few can admit that we can all become possible “nazis” if our country/government forces us to..( think Vietnam, think Muhamned Ali’s refusal to join and the price he paid etc..
MW, yes I agree.. maybe not for you or me that much but “dark symbols” definitely torment lots of communities forever..
Try to graffiti a Hexagram just for fun anywhere in west Memphis and you’ll be “officially” a satanist..
Laughing… Yeah can’t hide it.. I live the reactions on folks faces after your tap on their subconscious for a second.. They can let anyone scar their souls with a pen
and some ink.. Power of Symbols= strong..
Think how many low life crooks out there but some tarot cards and act as an Oracle..
Classic
The weaker the mind.. The stronger the symbol effect

By: panos skoulidas

panos skoulidas — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:25:28 +0000

http://instagr.am/p/IHOEaDBrYO/

Dedicated to all
“troops” / armies/ police of any and all countries …
“Viva” pride :)

By: cubafoto

cubafoto — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:39:03 +0000

This link is a good read by Robert Hariman. Understanding this essay by Stacy intellectually is a lot easier than to emotionally understand and accept its validity based on symbols created and designed by man to minimalize thinking.
How do you minimalize emotional realities?

http://www.nocaptionneeded.com/2011/10/can-we-see-through-symbols/

By: panos skoulidas

panos skoulidas — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:17:48 +0000

By: panos skoulidas

panos skoulidas — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:16:15 +0000

Brooklyn in da house!!!!!!!!

By: mw

mw — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:37:16 +0000

not courageous just another way of perpetuating…

I’m guessing you don’t spend a lot of time around the orthodox?

By: Imants

Imants — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:21:11 +0000

I now realize that it is a big deal for someone who considers themselves a jew to pose like that with nazi reenactors. It’s a courageous stance……………not courageous just another way of perpetuating the Jewish cause. Keeping it all alive.

By: mw

mw — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:31:53 +0000

Panos, it seems to me that your examples are supporting the fact that symbols are important for all too many people. Sure, you and I can recognize their supreme irrelevancy it the great cosmic scheme of things, but normal people take them very seriously. And not just as victims, but as perpetrators. Normally when someone gets a swastika tat and beats up a Jew, that symbol has a very conscious meaning which the perp understands and wants to communicate, not just to the victim and anyone else he comes across. And typically, those who burn korans or bibles or flags know exactly what they’re doing. Even if one recognizes that the symbol is irrelevant, it’s the thought that counts.

And unfortunately, the concept of heritage is usually the foundation supporting the symbol. I’ve seen people in other parts of the world get into fist fights over heritage crap that happened 500 years ago. Giving a shit about jewish heritage is a particular blight on human history, the nazis being example 1a, but the list goes much deeper into the alphabet. I count myself lucky as being a person with no heritage to speak of. My family tree only goes back a few generations and those people seemed to be intent on escaping whatever heritage they may have had. The farthest back we can go is to people jailed for making moonshine during prohibition so all it takes for me to explore my heritage is a short trip to the liquor store.

Anyway, that’s probably why I missed the significance of the exploring one’s heritage part of this essay. I now realize that it is a big deal for someone who considers themselves a jew to pose like that with nazi reenactors. It’s a courageous stance. I’d be curious what a more jewish audience would think. That would probably make for some far more interesting commentary.

But, and I keep coming back to this no matter how I look at it – from the Leni perspective, from the otherness perspective, from the symbol perspective or from the heritage perspective -I still don’t think the text works. Not on it’s own. Not with the photos. So my hopefully constructive criticism is to give a lot more thought to what this is really all about and to find a way to communicate it simply.

By: panos skoulidas

panos skoulidas — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:13:50 +0000

Also

In early September 1976, the Bromley Contingent followed the Pistols to France, where Siouxsie was beaten up for wearing a black armband with a swastika on it. She claimed her intent was to shock the bourgeoisie, not to make a political statement.[17] She would later write the songs “Metal Postcard (Mittageisen)” (in memory of the anti-Nazi artist John Heartfield) and the single “Israel”.[18]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siouxsie_Sioux

By: Charles Peterson

Charles Peterson — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:52:11 +0000

Not sure where I fall on this. I do know, having photographed young airsoft (plastic pellet guns) re-enactors here in WA state, how easy it can be to be swept up into the playacting. And when one gets swept up in the “fun” it becomes easy to set aside one’s moral and ethical judgements.

Of course when playing battle games one needs both sides. Where I find it starts to get weird is the cakes and community clubs and Hitler Youth, etc. I guess it was a jolly old time being a Nazi SS….

As far as exploring her Jewish heritage…. why not also play a victim of atrocity (they do playact atrocities don’t they?) and see how the two compare (Jew and Leni). Would be a lot more fascinating from a sociological standpoint then playing a movie star visiting the troops (which is up for question if she ever did).

I like many of the photos and some are very chilling – not sure if they go “beyond good and evil” and instead just straight to weird and wtf. Not sure if that was the intent she was after….

Anyone note the American MP in the background on #3…….

By: panos skoulidas

panos skoulidas — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:55:41 +0000

And speaking of Hollywood, symbols and eccentric behaviors:
Symbols continue:
“Lee suffered a 1998 lawsuit when he exposed a swastika tattoo on his arm to public scrutiny (the tattoo was in fact a swastika facing backwards). In 1996, Lee had pled no contest to criminal charges of battery against a Jewish photographer after Lee attacked the man outside the famous Viper Room, in L.A. When the photographer sued Lee, the “swastika” tattoo (which has since been removed) was said to be visible and Lee’s lawyer argued it would inflame the jury and create unfair prejudice against Lee.[10] Shortly after claiming that the introduction of the tattoo into the court record would produce prejudice, Lee denied its existence.[11] Lee’s attorney reported the swastika was a “stupid tattoo obtained several years ago”.[12]”

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Lee

(is this hysteria at its best or what?)

By: panos skoulidas

panos skoulidas — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:43:11 +0000

Bibles, Qurans, nazi Symbols, flags, patriotism and Fear is what creates wars!
Not theater, actors , photogs or artists..
People plz relax.. Don’t worry : it’s not the “return of the nazis” and also
sorry to disappoint some but but but:”
Jesus also cancelled his SECOND COMING special appearance due to weather conditions..
Lol!
Have a nice “lighter” week y’all and go to theater watch a performance ( maybe a comedy ? If stomach not that strong?)
One love, peace on the audience and war on stage, please!!!
:)

By: panos skoulidas

panos skoulidas — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:36:31 +0000

Taking things ( symbols ) seriously…
That’s what kills people, and I’m scared every time people can’t lighten up and are over religious or over jealous on their defenses…

Did u hear what happened in Adghanistan after some uneducated marine burned the Quran:
“The Quran burnings sparked weeks of violent protests and attacks that left some 30 Afghans dead, despite an apology from President Barack Obama. Six U.S. service members were also killed by their fellow Afghan soldiers, although the tensions had just started to calm down….

The violence over the Quran burnings had already spurred calls in the U.S. for a faster exit strategy from the 10-year-old Afghan war. Obama even said recently that “now is the time for us to transition.” But he also said he had no plan to change the current timetable that has Afghans taking control of security countrywide by the end of 2014…etc etc”

By: panos skoulidas

panos skoulidas — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:29:10 +0000

Anyone remember that song:
“Ops I did it again” by Britney Spears?

or better:
http://www.nationalmemo.com/article/american-soldier-massacres-16-civilians-afghanistan

Symbols don’t kill people or civilians etc
Guns don’t kill people..
People kill people , people use guns and operate symbols or use symbols and operate guns!