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	<title>Comments on: ellie brown &#8211; capsule relationship</title>
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		<title>By: marco</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2010/03/ellie-brown-capsule-relationship/comment-page-2/#comment-66657</link>
		<dc:creator>marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 10:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very nice, funny and original; though not incredible under a photographic point of view, it&#039;s the typical example of how a great idea goes beyond technicalities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very nice, funny and original; though not incredible under a photographic point of view, it&#8217;s the typical example of how a great idea goes beyond technicalities.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark W</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2010/03/ellie-brown-capsule-relationship/comment-page-2/#comment-65023</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is a simple reading, but if you just strip out the disconcerting requirement of making the piece about the emotional journey you travelled in the making of the piece you&#039;d have something different and more modest but imo more satisfying.

I know it&#039;s about the power of the script you were satirizing to suck you in, but just at face value it&#039;s a valuable satirical statement, which you started off trying to make, about the pessimism of so many X-ers of the likelihood of finding the meaning and fulfillment they were promised by that script. What some commenters here are seeing as emotionally emptiness I&#039;m seeing as faces full of defensive resignation to inevitable failure. When the piece is framed so the viewer is already anticipating the end, then the friction between the hope (which is never completely lost) and the expected reality - the impossibility of 
ever not being alone - comes through in just about every shot. Like some fellow said, when you say &quot;I love you&quot;, it&#039;s a prayer to the gods who may make it so, but you know they rarely listen. The snapshot aesthetic works because it emphasises the superficiality of the relationship - a shallowness to it all.

That&#039;d be a pretty thin piece for many, I know, but that&#039;s the level it works best at for me. To make a statement like that with photography and a good-natured wit is quite something.

Best wishes with future work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is a simple reading, but if you just strip out the disconcerting requirement of making the piece about the emotional journey you travelled in the making of the piece you&#8217;d have something different and more modest but imo more satisfying.</p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s about the power of the script you were satirizing to suck you in, but just at face value it&#8217;s a valuable satirical statement, which you started off trying to make, about the pessimism of so many X-ers of the likelihood of finding the meaning and fulfillment they were promised by that script. What some commenters here are seeing as emotionally emptiness I&#8217;m seeing as faces full of defensive resignation to inevitable failure. When the piece is framed so the viewer is already anticipating the end, then the friction between the hope (which is never completely lost) and the expected reality &#8211; the impossibility of<br />
ever not being alone &#8211; comes through in just about every shot. Like some fellow said, when you say &#8220;I love you&#8221;, it&#8217;s a prayer to the gods who may make it so, but you know they rarely listen. The snapshot aesthetic works because it emphasises the superficiality of the relationship &#8211; a shallowness to it all.</p>
<p>That&#8217;d be a pretty thin piece for many, I know, but that&#8217;s the level it works best at for me. To make a statement like that with photography and a good-natured wit is quite something.</p>
<p>Best wishes with future work.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenji Arimura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenji Arimura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow...the concept here is really original! well done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow&#8230;the concept here is really original! well done!</p>
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		<title>By: eva</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2010/03/ellie-brown-capsule-relationship/comment-page-2/#comment-64908</link>
		<dc:creator>eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ellie, no, I&#039;ve not missed &#039;Two Girls&#039;, nor your whole blog about the project, nor the Blurb book.. nor your flickr account either, but have to say that I didn&#039;t look through all of the pictures there, just too much..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellie, no, I&#8217;ve not missed &#8216;Two Girls&#8217;, nor your whole blog about the project, nor the Blurb book.. nor your flickr account either, but have to say that I didn&#8217;t look through all of the pictures there, just too much..</p>
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		<title>By: elliebeee</title>
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		<dc:creator>elliebeee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eva,
I guess you missed &#039;Two Girls: My Sisters 1996-2006&#039;? http://www.elliebrown.com
Cheers.
Ellie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eva,<br />
I guess you missed &#8216;Two Girls: My Sisters 1996-2006&#8242;? <a href="http://www.elliebrown.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.elliebrown.com</a><br />
Cheers.<br />
Ellie</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Michael Hack</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2010/03/ellie-brown-capsule-relationship/comment-page-2/#comment-64905</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Michael Hack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again getting my comment in a little late, behind the eight ball again. IMO as a internet based photo essay the images lack the visual language to communicate the intense emotions described and even felt by the artists. I would have loved this piece with a shorter edit, and copy from the book read over the photographs. I think there is a place in between straight photography and short films that can work as multimedia. I have stated before I think that is the future of photography on the internet. The internet is the most common vehicle to view photography today so it has too work online as well as in print, and in galleries. We are dealing with info/image overload, if the images do not strike at some deep subconscious level they will be forgotten. I don&#039;t think any artist wants their work to be forgotten. 

From a personal perspective I have (as many others here quite assuredly) have experienced the range of emotions attempting to be communicated here. In 5 yrs I have dated, proposed, , married, had two kids, and very nearly ended up in separation and divorce (still not out of the woods) so from personal experience the photo essay feels contrived, immature, lacking in depth, cold, artificial, patronizing, and lacking any reel drama, or pathos. If that was the intent then I think the essay has succeeded. Again I am describing the visual imagery and technique here. I think as a photographic experiment it is quite interesting and worth the attempt. Not all experiments end in success but that does not stop us from searching for the philosopher&#039;s stone. Keep up your spirits and your work.

All the best,

Frank</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again getting my comment in a little late, behind the eight ball again. IMO as a internet based photo essay the images lack the visual language to communicate the intense emotions described and even felt by the artists. I would have loved this piece with a shorter edit, and copy from the book read over the photographs. I think there is a place in between straight photography and short films that can work as multimedia. I have stated before I think that is the future of photography on the internet. The internet is the most common vehicle to view photography today so it has too work online as well as in print, and in galleries. We are dealing with info/image overload, if the images do not strike at some deep subconscious level they will be forgotten. I don&#8217;t think any artist wants their work to be forgotten. </p>
<p>From a personal perspective I have (as many others here quite assuredly) have experienced the range of emotions attempting to be communicated here. In 5 yrs I have dated, proposed, , married, had two kids, and very nearly ended up in separation and divorce (still not out of the woods) so from personal experience the photo essay feels contrived, immature, lacking in depth, cold, artificial, patronizing, and lacking any reel drama, or pathos. If that was the intent then I think the essay has succeeded. Again I am describing the visual imagery and technique here. I think as a photographic experiment it is quite interesting and worth the attempt. Not all experiments end in success but that does not stop us from searching for the philosopher&#8217;s stone. Keep up your spirits and your work.</p>
<p>All the best,</p>
<p>Frank</p>
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		<title>By: eva</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2010/03/ellie-brown-capsule-relationship/comment-page-2/#comment-64886</link>
		<dc:creator>eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ellie, one question (and I do not need an answer, I have got mine): do you think to photograph your backyard, your family, your real life in opposite to a project like you did as less emontionally draining? Couldn&#039;t it be that far or near (conceptual or real) has nothing to do with it, but all with the emotions you put into the work, whatever it might be?

The reslult, to me, is still the same, whatever you do it must be convincing.. if it&#039;s not then critiques come in, the moment you put out the work to public (which is a free choice btw). It doesn&#039;t matter how hard the whole thing has been on you, for the quality of the work it cannot matter, no excuses and no hiding behind emotional attachment to the work. I don&#039;t say it&#039;s easy, but there&#039;s no difference between in-capsule and out-capsule relationships.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellie, one question (and I do not need an answer, I have got mine): do you think to photograph your backyard, your family, your real life in opposite to a project like you did as less emontionally draining? Couldn&#8217;t it be that far or near (conceptual or real) has nothing to do with it, but all with the emotions you put into the work, whatever it might be?</p>
<p>The reslult, to me, is still the same, whatever you do it must be convincing.. if it&#8217;s not then critiques come in, the moment you put out the work to public (which is a free choice btw). It doesn&#8217;t matter how hard the whole thing has been on you, for the quality of the work it cannot matter, no excuses and no hiding behind emotional attachment to the work. I don&#8217;t say it&#8217;s easy, but there&#8217;s no difference between in-capsule and out-capsule relationships.</p>
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		<title>By: vicky slater</title>
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		<dc:creator>vicky slater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;…or just go out in the world and have ‘actual’ experiences and adventures, and take huge risks, and fail, and succeed, and stake it all on a single roll, win or lose you always win…and move on and do it some more.&quot;

I like John&#039;s way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;…or just go out in the world and have ‘actual’ experiences and adventures, and take huge risks, and fail, and succeed, and stake it all on a single roll, win or lose you always win…and move on and do it some more.&#8221;</p>
<p>I like John&#8217;s way.</p>
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		<title>By: david bowen</title>
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		<dc:creator>david bowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 07:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what capsule project would i do?
hmm..
bill paying.. residency forms.. tax returns.. washing-up.. 
would be quicker than doing it in reality.

the project i would really like to do - which condenses time and events into a manageable, fictional account - would be a short film.. 
fiction can indeed be a good way of telling the truth and i´ve wanted to make one highlighting some of my real experiences as a photographer working in the music industry for a long while..
condense 12 years into a one-month-in-the-life... highlights and low-lifes.
it would be one way of getting round the lawyers :ø)

how about life as a conceptual experiment?
having one simple and unlikely wish - then creating a reality which fits that idea?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what capsule project would i do?<br />
hmm..<br />
bill paying.. residency forms.. tax returns.. washing-up..<br />
would be quicker than doing it in reality.</p>
<p>the project i would really like to do &#8211; which condenses time and events into a manageable, fictional account &#8211; would be a short film..<br />
fiction can indeed be a good way of telling the truth and i´ve wanted to make one highlighting some of my real experiences as a photographer working in the music industry for a long while..<br />
condense 12 years into a one-month-in-the-life&#8230; highlights and low-lifes.<br />
it would be one way of getting round the lawyers :ø)</p>
<p>how about life as a conceptual experiment?<br />
having one simple and unlikely wish &#8211; then creating a reality which fits that idea?</p>
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		<title>By: Haik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 05:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:&#124;</description>
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		<title>By: mike peters</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2010/03/ellie-brown-capsule-relationship/comment-page-2/#comment-64868</link>
		<dc:creator>mike peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 02:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting idea, well documented.. i really like it!
best wishes-
mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting idea, well documented.. i really like it!<br />
best wishes-<br />
mike</p>
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		<title>By: panos skoulidas</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2010/03/ellie-brown-capsule-relationship/comment-page-2/#comment-64864</link>
		<dc:creator>panos skoulidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually consider myself a documentary photographer if you asked me any other day.
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!!??
ok..now im getting dizzy...time for me to go to bed...goodnight everyone...3:07 here...
big hug</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually consider myself a documentary photographer if you asked me any other day.<br />
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!!??<br />
ok..now im getting dizzy&#8230;time for me to go to bed&#8230;goodnight everyone&#8230;3:07 here&#8230;<br />
big hug</p>
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		<title>By: david alan harvey</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2010/03/ellie-brown-capsule-relationship/comment-page-2/#comment-64862</link>
		<dc:creator>david alan harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ELLIE..

you obviously missed my comment above where i was trying to make a case for you as a conceptual photographer with room to grow...funny...now, you describe yourself as a documentary photographer...in looking at your website and work on Flickr i do not see any documentary work...only with Two Sisters do you have the documentary approach which is quite nice...in any case, we will wait to see what you do next...thanks for sticking around....

cheers, david</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ELLIE..</p>
<p>you obviously missed my comment above where i was trying to make a case for you as a conceptual photographer with room to grow&#8230;funny&#8230;now, you describe yourself as a documentary photographer&#8230;in looking at your website and work on Flickr i do not see any documentary work&#8230;only with Two Sisters do you have the documentary approach which is quite nice&#8230;in any case, we will wait to see what you do next&#8230;thanks for sticking around&#8230;.</p>
<p>cheers, david</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Lafleur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Lafleur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>elliebee

Thanks. You&#039;ve pushed me a little further along. Not sure if I&#039;ll ever try a &quot;capsule&quot; project, but love the concept. I think you&#039;ve pushed us all a little further along.</description>
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<p>Thanks. You&#8217;ve pushed me a little further along. Not sure if I&#8217;ll ever try a &#8220;capsule&#8221; project, but love the concept. I think you&#8217;ve pushed us all a little further along.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth Dickerman</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2010/03/ellie-brown-capsule-relationship/comment-page-2/#comment-64860</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth Dickerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, sorry. that quote was taken from dah in the comments above mine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, sorry. that quote was taken from dah in the comments above mine</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Lafleur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Lafleur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;with fiction you can really tell the truth&quot;

David A...,..., anyway, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;with fiction you can really tell the truth&#8221;</p>
<p>David A&#8230;,&#8230;, anyway, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: elliebeee</title>
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		<dc:creator>elliebeee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kenneth,
I like that quote. 

For the record, this project was an experiment. It is not my usual mode of working. I actually consider myself a documentary photographer if you asked me any other day. So, I tried something new and stepped outside of my comfort zone as an artist and photographer. It was and IS very hard to make one&#039;s self so vulnerable in this way- to make the private so public. My request for everyone to try a capsule experience was not me being cheeky. It was a sincere query to ask yourselves what sort of challenge you would undertake?

This is not a project that I am planning to work on further or will ever revisit. It is done. I had the experience and I don&#039;t need to repeat it. So....thanks for the &#039;in the future of this project&#039; comments, but it is really over. I&#039;m back to being behind the camera now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenneth,<br />
I like that quote. </p>
<p>For the record, this project was an experiment. It is not my usual mode of working. I actually consider myself a documentary photographer if you asked me any other day. So, I tried something new and stepped outside of my comfort zone as an artist and photographer. It was and IS very hard to make one&#8217;s self so vulnerable in this way- to make the private so public. My request for everyone to try a capsule experience was not me being cheeky. It was a sincere query to ask yourselves what sort of challenge you would undertake?</p>
<p>This is not a project that I am planning to work on further or will ever revisit. It is done. I had the experience and I don&#8217;t need to repeat it. So&#8230;.thanks for the &#8216;in the future of this project&#8217; comments, but it is really over. I&#8217;m back to being behind the camera now.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth Dickerman</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2010/03/ellie-brown-capsule-relationship/comment-page-2/#comment-64854</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth Dickerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>with fiction you can really tell the truth

yes! i am starting to believe that more and more....</description>
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<p>yes! i am starting to believe that more and more&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: david alan harvey</title>
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		<dc:creator>david alan harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JOHN...

yes, of course, that is what you do and me too....but not everyone uses photography for the same reasons nor has the same predilections...we all have different things in our hearts and heads that are going to come out one way or the other...frankly, i love fiction...with fiction you can really tell the truth...as you well know, there are some writers who do both fiction and non-fiction and a few photographers as well...obviously Ellie had something on her mind..something that could not be done by walking down the street with a Leica...shouldn&#039;t she be allowed her own form of expression? yes, i see the weaknesses in her essay, but i also see someone really trying to substantiate and affiliate compound ideas ...how she grows from this will be interesting to see i think...but i doubt it will be in the direction of straight documentary photography...nor should it be imo....sure she can do her work more succinct and with more raw visual power....but some of the essays that many seem to like here in the photo-j category go by unscathed when in fact they are no better versions of that genre than Ellie is in hers and required a whole lot less thought than Ellie put into her work....just my opinion...

coming to Spain in April with a quick stop in London...any chance for a cold beer??

cheers, david</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JOHN&#8230;</p>
<p>yes, of course, that is what you do and me too&#8230;.but not everyone uses photography for the same reasons nor has the same predilections&#8230;we all have different things in our hearts and heads that are going to come out one way or the other&#8230;frankly, i love fiction&#8230;with fiction you can really tell the truth&#8230;as you well know, there are some writers who do both fiction and non-fiction and a few photographers as well&#8230;obviously Ellie had something on her mind..something that could not be done by walking down the street with a Leica&#8230;shouldn&#8217;t she be allowed her own form of expression? yes, i see the weaknesses in her essay, but i also see someone really trying to substantiate and affiliate compound ideas &#8230;how she grows from this will be interesting to see i think&#8230;but i doubt it will be in the direction of straight documentary photography&#8230;nor should it be imo&#8230;.sure she can do her work more succinct and with more raw visual power&#8230;.but some of the essays that many seem to like here in the photo-j category go by unscathed when in fact they are no better versions of that genre than Ellie is in hers and required a whole lot less thought than Ellie put into her work&#8230;.just my opinion&#8230;</p>
<p>coming to Spain in April with a quick stop in London&#8230;any chance for a cold beer??</p>
<p>cheers, david</p>
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		<title>By: bob black</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John:

this is exactly right! :))))</description>
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<p>this is exactly right! :))))</p>
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