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	<title>Comments on: imants krumins &#8211; etrouko the book I</title>
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	<description>burn is an online feature for emerging photographers worldwide. burn is curated by magnum photographer david alan harvey.</description>
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		<title>By: Imants</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2010/01/imants-krumins-etrouko-the-book-i/comment-page-1/#comment-63533</link>
		<dc:creator>Imants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The book is still awaiting to be published.......... still thinking how</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The book is still awaiting to be published&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. still thinking how</p>
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		<title>By: JoaoTerra</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2010/01/imants-krumins-etrouko-the-book-i/comment-page-1/#comment-63248</link>
		<dc:creator>JoaoTerra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great work, its raw at the same time sophisticated, introspective with a rich imaginary, authentic!. The collages are beautiful and the music besides being sublime was very well chosen, adding a lot to the images.
When and where can i buy your book?
Congratulations........i see a lot, there are many people producing a lot but very few stuff really inspires me.

Joao</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great work, its raw at the same time sophisticated, introspective with a rich imaginary, authentic!. The collages are beautiful and the music besides being sublime was very well chosen, adding a lot to the images.<br />
When and where can i buy your book?<br />
Congratulations&#8230;&#8230;..i see a lot, there are many people producing a lot but very few stuff really inspires me.</p>
<p>Joao</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Peterson</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2010/01/imants-krumins-etrouko-the-book-i/comment-page-1/#comment-62268</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the 3-D sculputural quality of the box. Would be yet another level IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the 3-D sculputural quality of the box. Would be yet another level IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: wendy</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2010/01/imants-krumins-etrouko-the-book-i/comment-page-1/#comment-62259</link>
		<dc:creator>wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brings
out
poetry
in
all....
xox</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brings<br />
out<br />
poetry<br />
in<br />
all&#8230;.<br />
xox</p>
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		<title>By: Imants</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2010/01/imants-krumins-etrouko-the-book-i/comment-page-1/#comment-62218</link>
		<dc:creator>Imants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There lies a dilemma, the book binds the images into a sequence that created a thread. A boxed version allows images to be added and frees the “book” from a static beginning and end but destroys the works original intent.
The boxed version would allow one to add their own input and that includes images of one’s choice or their own</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There lies a dilemma, the book binds the images into a sequence that created a thread. A boxed version allows images to be added and frees the “book” from a static beginning and end but destroys the works original intent.<br />
The boxed version would allow one to add their own input and that includes images of one’s choice or their own</p>
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		<title>By: Imants</title>
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		<dc:creator>Imants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ross they work better at 220mm x150 mm in a 560mm x 570mm frame .........I tried larger in a show and they lost their intimacy and personal scale</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ross they work better at 220mm x150 mm in a 560mm x 570mm frame &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;I tried larger in a show and they lost their intimacy and personal scale</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Nolly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Nolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles/Imants; I&#039;d like to see them quite large on a gallery wall too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles/Imants; I&#8217;d like to see them quite large on a gallery wall too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Peterson</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2010/01/imants-krumins-etrouko-the-book-i/comment-page-1/#comment-62195</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imants,

Interesting and thought provoking. IMO the pieces that work best are the juxtapositions of your own photography vs your own and found imagery. Those pages that are just the disparate imagery you saw in the world with your camera are very strong. The textual elements are sometimes too art school for me, but I can also see how they string the work together. A box set sounds like a good way to publish these pieces.

Best of luck,

CP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imants,</p>
<p>Interesting and thought provoking. IMO the pieces that work best are the juxtapositions of your own photography vs your own and found imagery. Those pages that are just the disparate imagery you saw in the world with your camera are very strong. The textual elements are sometimes too art school for me, but I can also see how they string the work together. A box set sounds like a good way to publish these pieces.</p>
<p>Best of luck,</p>
<p>CP</p>
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		<title>By: victor ben tzvi</title>
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		<dc:creator>victor ben tzvi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>distant and intimate, thought provoking and exiting... 
enigmatic even when obvious at times... 
because it is imants work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>distant and intimate, thought provoking and exiting&#8230;<br />
enigmatic even when obvious at times&#8230;<br />
because it is imants work</p>
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		<title>By: peter grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 13:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so no one gets outta here alive.. thanks for reminding me Imants.. bugger!

I like the look of it though, even if I don&#039;t like being reminded that i&#039;m aging. I&#039;ve got the feeling you&#039;d make good sculptures..

Well done Imants.. Looks great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so no one gets outta here alive.. thanks for reminding me Imants.. bugger!</p>
<p>I like the look of it though, even if I don&#8217;t like being reminded that i&#8217;m aging. I&#8217;ve got the feeling you&#8217;d make good sculptures..</p>
<p>Well done Imants.. Looks great.</p>
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		<title>By: kathleen fonseca</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathleen fonseca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 08:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>asses to ashes, lust to dust, 
heaven or hell or just plain rust
first we walk, then we ride
stooped and wise but all tore up inside
constructs or destructs 
on the rocks it all sucks
up through the straw down the drain
ancients newborns all the same
don&#039;t cry don&#039;t bat an eye
you&#039;re the oppressor or the oppressee
you got the gun you have the fun
but the evil eye putcha on the run
cuz what goes around goes around 
donchaknow

so that&#039;s it
i think
watched 7 or 8 or 3 times
it&#039;s all ancient
nothing disappears, 
it just changes into something else
and it goes on
we go on
and on
on
and
on
there is no end

the dud...heh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>asses to ashes, lust to dust,<br />
heaven or hell or just plain rust<br />
first we walk, then we ride<br />
stooped and wise but all tore up inside<br />
constructs or destructs<br />
on the rocks it all sucks<br />
up through the straw down the drain<br />
ancients newborns all the same<br />
don&#8217;t cry don&#8217;t bat an eye<br />
you&#8217;re the oppressor or the oppressee<br />
you got the gun you have the fun<br />
but the evil eye putcha on the run<br />
cuz what goes around goes around<br />
donchaknow</p>
<p>so that&#8217;s it<br />
i think<br />
watched 7 or 8 or 3 times<br />
it&#8217;s all ancient<br />
nothing disappears,<br />
it just changes into something else<br />
and it goes on<br />
we go on<br />
and on<br />
on<br />
and<br />
on<br />
there is no end</p>
<p>the dud&#8230;heh</p>
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		<title>By: Akaky</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2010/01/imants-krumins-etrouko-the-book-i/comment-page-1/#comment-62132</link>
		<dc:creator>Akaky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 15:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cats pissing on art...isnt that what cats are for, when you think about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cats pissing on art&#8230;isnt that what cats are for, when you think about it?</p>
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		<title>By: eva</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2010/01/imants-krumins-etrouko-the-book-i/comment-page-1/#comment-62116</link>
		<dc:creator>eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I hated most in school was when a teacher told us what exactly a poet wanted to say with her/his poem..</description>
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		<title>By: AndreaC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndreaC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 08:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, even if Ross is onto something and it is a visual poem (and I do not disagree) this does not necessarily discount alternative interpretations.There can be parallel meanings. Still, even poems have their intended meanings. Good poems and good art often have a variety of interpretations - you know &quot;layers of meaning&quot;, although priority is usually given to the artist&#039;s intentions. Still sometimes the work goes beyond the intentions of the artist. If Imants isn&#039;t interested in sharing the meaning it has for him with his audience, that is fine. It is obviously not important if that is the case.  If he wants us to find our own meanings, that is fine. But this also does not rule out the possibility that the meanings some viewers devine in the work are not going to be uninteresting to others and important. This  is, after all what goes on in art criticism all the time. 

Imants&#039;s work may be unusual in this context , ie on Burn, and with most of the viewers of this site but it&#039;s not at all unique in contemporary art galleries. (That is not meant as a backhander). I&#039;m just saying poetical arrangements of images, even appropriated images as these seem to be, has been done quite often before. The selection of images and their chosen organisation is obviously important. If the selection and organisation is not important; if it were random, then it would just be surrealism again, wouldn&#039;t it. Anyway... that&#039;s just a few further thoughts by way of discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, even if Ross is onto something and it is a visual poem (and I do not disagree) this does not necessarily discount alternative interpretations.There can be parallel meanings. Still, even poems have their intended meanings. Good poems and good art often have a variety of interpretations &#8211; you know &#8220;layers of meaning&#8221;, although priority is usually given to the artist&#8217;s intentions. Still sometimes the work goes beyond the intentions of the artist. If Imants isn&#8217;t interested in sharing the meaning it has for him with his audience, that is fine. It is obviously not important if that is the case.  If he wants us to find our own meanings, that is fine. But this also does not rule out the possibility that the meanings some viewers devine in the work are not going to be uninteresting to others and important. This  is, after all what goes on in art criticism all the time. </p>
<p>Imants&#8217;s work may be unusual in this context , ie on Burn, and with most of the viewers of this site but it&#8217;s not at all unique in contemporary art galleries. (That is not meant as a backhander). I&#8217;m just saying poetical arrangements of images, even appropriated images as these seem to be, has been done quite often before. The selection of images and their chosen organisation is obviously important. If the selection and organisation is not important; if it were random, then it would just be surrealism again, wouldn&#8217;t it. Anyway&#8230; that&#8217;s just a few further thoughts by way of discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Imants</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2010/01/imants-krumins-etrouko-the-book-i/comment-page-1/#comment-62110</link>
		<dc:creator>Imants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 03:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the proposed book number two just getting on its way ……. site will be up for a couple of days 30/01/10. 54 pages each image is up 2 seconds no music

http://www.artouko.com/iman.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the proposed book number two just getting on its way ……. site will be up for a couple of days 30/01/10. 54 pages each image is up 2 seconds no music</p>
<p><a href="http://www.artouko.com/iman.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.artouko.com/iman.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Imants</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2010/01/imants-krumins-etrouko-the-book-i/comment-page-1/#comment-62108</link>
		<dc:creator>Imants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 02:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what a slide show should be like  30 seconds and that&#039;s it


http://www.artouko.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what a slide show should be like  30 seconds and that&#8217;s it</p>
<p><a href="http://www.artouko.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.artouko.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Imants</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2010/01/imants-krumins-etrouko-the-book-i/comment-page-1/#comment-62107</link>
		<dc:creator>Imants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 02:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the proposed printed box set, slight changes ……. site will be up for a couple of days 30/01/10. 52 pages each image is up 2.5 seconds no music

http://www.artouko.com/imi.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the proposed printed box set, slight changes ……. site will be up for a couple of days 30/01/10. 52 pages each image is up 2.5 seconds no music</p>
<p><a href="http://www.artouko.com/imi.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.artouko.com/imi.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Imants</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2010/01/imants-krumins-etrouko-the-book-i/comment-page-1/#comment-62106</link>
		<dc:creator>Imants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 02:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks
 Here ar a few extras.....
 This is the proposed book ....... site will be up for a couple of days 30/01/10. 54 pages each image is up 3 seconds no music


http://www.artouko.com/im.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks<br />
 Here ar a few extras&#8230;..<br />
 This is the proposed book &#8230;&#8230;. site will be up for a couple of days 30/01/10. 54 pages each image is up 3 seconds no music</p>
<p><a href="http://www.artouko.com/im.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.artouko.com/im.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: sam harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks Imants, 

your bold attitude and unique, intriguing style is always good to see and an excellent lesson in being yourself!

“they are not photographs they are about photography.”... and the photographer??? 

intriguing work... the dada vibe you have, reminds me of (although your stuff is quite different) the 
great work of Vaughn Oliver circa late 80&#039;s/early 90&#039;s and the wonderful &#039;Journals of Jacob Mandeville&#039;

http://www.noorderlicht.com/eng/fest01/gallery/natuurmuseum2/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks Imants, </p>
<p>your bold attitude and unique, intriguing style is always good to see and an excellent lesson in being yourself!</p>
<p>“they are not photographs they are about photography.”&#8230; and the photographer??? </p>
<p>intriguing work&#8230; the dada vibe you have, reminds me of (although your stuff is quite different) the<br />
great work of Vaughn Oliver circa late 80&#8217;s/early 90&#8217;s and the wonderful &#8216;Journals of Jacob Mandeville&#8217;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.noorderlicht.com/eng/fest01/gallery/natuurmuseum2/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.noorderlicht.com/eng/fest01/gallery/natuurmuseum2/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: david bowen</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2010/01/imants-krumins-etrouko-the-book-i/comment-page-1/#comment-62098</link>
		<dc:creator>david bowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;the cat pissed on&#039; site actually made me laugh.. whatever the intent i enjoyed it.

with the puzzle above .. the cloak seems pretty thick on first glance yet with time to reference, or a bottle of gin.. who knows.. 
&quot;they are not photographs they are about photography.&quot;.. game is on..

in any case - i think it may be a good book to decipher over time.. soak in reflections and drift with it..

good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;the cat pissed on&#8217; site actually made me laugh.. whatever the intent i enjoyed it.</p>
<p>with the puzzle above .. the cloak seems pretty thick on first glance yet with time to reference, or a bottle of gin.. who knows..<br />
&#8220;they are not photographs they are about photography.&#8221;.. game is on..</p>
<p>in any case &#8211; i think it may be a good book to decipher over time.. soak in reflections and drift with it..</p>
<p>good luck.</p>
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