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		<title>By: Petteri</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/08/joni-karanka-last-orders/comment-page-1/#comment-49856</link>
		<dc:creator>Petteri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr Karanka,

I was going to write a long essay about differences between Finnish and British drinking habits. In the end I came to the conclusion that they are pretty similar.

FINtastic work by the way!!

All the best

Petteri</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Karanka,</p>
<p>I was going to write a long essay about differences between Finnish and British drinking habits. In the end I came to the conclusion that they are pretty similar.</p>
<p>FINtastic work by the way!!</p>
<p>All the best</p>
<p>Petteri</p>
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		<title>By: JKaranka</title>
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		<dc:creator>JKaranka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 08:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Patricia: I don&#039;t have anybody&#039;s trust when I photograph :o) And you&#039;d be surprised, in many places there are no &#039;outsiders&#039;

@Daniel: We rarely shoot the same places, excepting going for beers every now and then and the streets being the same. I wouldn&#039;t mind to have lived elsewhere, but I like it here. Doesn&#039;t make much of a difference, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Patricia: I don&#8217;t have anybody&#8217;s trust when I photograph :o) And you&#8217;d be surprised, in many places there are no &#8216;outsiders&#8217;</p>
<p>@Daniel: We rarely shoot the same places, excepting going for beers every now and then and the streets being the same. I wouldn&#8217;t mind to have lived elsewhere, but I like it here. Doesn&#8217;t make much of a difference, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joni,

Are you and Maciej Dakowicz working on the same street corner?
Have to admit, the whole series from both of you look the same. Cardiff at night, throwing out time, welsh kids going mad.

http://www.maciejdakowicz.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joni,</p>
<p>Are you and Maciej Dakowicz working on the same street corner?<br />
Have to admit, the whole series from both of you look the same. Cardiff at night, throwing out time, welsh kids going mad.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.maciejdakowicz.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.maciejdakowicz.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Martin Brink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Brink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really liked this one. Thanks for sharing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really liked this one. Thanks for sharing!</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia Lay-Dorsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia Lay-Dorsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tough stuff but real, oh so real. A side of life that is happening whether folks want to know it or not. Many many great captures but I too would love to see more varied POV and positioning by the photographer. Joni, you obviously have their trust--at least as much trust as they are capable of having--so get in there even tighter, or take shots from above and below. Just shoot the hell out of these scenes and show us the entire range of emotions. For instance, aren&#039;t there any kids who stand outside the action and look on wistfully? Not everyone is being groped or groping. Some kids are always outsiders. I want to see them too.

Good work, Joni.Really good work.

Patricia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tough stuff but real, oh so real. A side of life that is happening whether folks want to know it or not. Many many great captures but I too would love to see more varied POV and positioning by the photographer. Joni, you obviously have their trust&#8211;at least as much trust as they are capable of having&#8211;so get in there even tighter, or take shots from above and below. Just shoot the hell out of these scenes and show us the entire range of emotions. For instance, aren&#8217;t there any kids who stand outside the action and look on wistfully? Not everyone is being groped or groping. Some kids are always outsiders. I want to see them too.</p>
<p>Good work, Joni.Really good work.</p>
<p>Patricia</p>
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		<title>By: photohumourist</title>
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		<dc:creator>photohumourist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just come back from two weeks in Wales with my family. Had a wonderful time. Though it was an all together different environment than the one portrayed here. 

The level of mindless alcohol abuse here in Britain and the accompanying violence is alarming and severely threatening. It just seems to get worse and worse. And it&#039;s not just twenty somethings. 

Anyway, I&#039;m ranting and I appreciate that that&#039;s not all of what this project is about. 

Good project. Good shot making. A story well told. As they say here in London, &quot;nice one&quot;.

Paul Treacy
http://paultreacy.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just come back from two weeks in Wales with my family. Had a wonderful time. Though it was an all together different environment than the one portrayed here. </p>
<p>The level of mindless alcohol abuse here in Britain and the accompanying violence is alarming and severely threatening. It just seems to get worse and worse. And it&#8217;s not just twenty somethings. </p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m ranting and I appreciate that that&#8217;s not all of what this project is about. </p>
<p>Good project. Good shot making. A story well told. As they say here in London, &#8220;nice one&#8221;.</p>
<p>Paul Treacy<br />
<a href="http://paultreacy.com" rel="nofollow">http://paultreacy.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: JKaranka</title>
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		<dc:creator>JKaranka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tommy: it is a voyeuristic piece... voyeurism has strenght in its realism, and it sort of draws you in, I mean, it is voyeurism, I&#039;m not engaging with these people just observing and imitating them

@david_bacher: no violence worth worrying about, but the ones that get on your way when shooting are bouncers (a lot) and uninformed policemen, and that can happen quite a lot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tommy: it is a voyeuristic piece&#8230; voyeurism has strenght in its realism, and it sort of draws you in, I mean, it is voyeurism, I&#8217;m not engaging with these people just observing and imitating them</p>
<p>@david_bacher: no violence worth worrying about, but the ones that get on your way when shooting are bouncers (a lot) and uninformed policemen, and that can happen quite a lot</p>
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		<title>By: Manuel Garcia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manuel Garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like this work, it has impressed me so gratefully,, your photos take me to the memories of the &quot;deep&quot; england, I can almost smell the shabby atmosphere of those places   , I love the way you took s them , with the hard flash light... so straigth... very powerful congratulations and thanks for sharing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like this work, it has impressed me so gratefully,, your photos take me to the memories of the &#8220;deep&#8221; england, I can almost smell the shabby atmosphere of those places   , I love the way you took s them , with the hard flash light&#8230; so straigth&#8230; very powerful congratulations and thanks for sharing it.</p>
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		<title>By: david alan harvey</title>
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		<dc:creator>david alan harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RAFAL...

Burn did not exist when Joni was an EPF finalist in 2008...and yes yes it sometimes takes a very very long time for photographers to be ready and deliver...our biggest job here is to get photographers to go from thinking about it to actually doing it...i have been wanting to publish Joni&#039;s work from the very beginning...

cheers, david</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RAFAL&#8230;</p>
<p>Burn did not exist when Joni was an EPF finalist in 2008&#8230;and yes yes it sometimes takes a very very long time for photographers to be ready and deliver&#8230;our biggest job here is to get photographers to go from thinking about it to actually doing it&#8230;i have been wanting to publish Joni&#8217;s work from the very beginning&#8230;</p>
<p>cheers, david</p>
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		<title>By: david_bacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>david_bacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like these photos except for a few like #5 which seem a bit easy. It&#039;s nice how you explored with the camera in an environment where many different events/surprises can unfold very quickly. You really managed to capture some intimate moments of youth culture in Cardiff. 
....just a question...did anyone get on your case while taking these?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like these photos except for a few like #5 which seem a bit easy. It&#8217;s nice how you explored with the camera in an environment where many different events/surprises can unfold very quickly. You really managed to capture some intimate moments of youth culture in Cardiff.<br />
&#8230;.just a question&#8230;did anyone get on your case while taking these?</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dunno.

#3 is interesting, some others are ok and raises the minds curiosity enough to put them into a category of good.  Personally, i&#039;d tighten down the set somewhat.

does it tell a full picture of last orders? probably not and expanse into all sides of life would increase the interest in it and provide some balance.

the roughness and gritty-ness i like.

you&#039;ve gone for the inebriated, voyeuristic and paparazzi.  there is a whole other side which is a way more difficult subject - having access, the engagement of the subject in their intoxicated state, involvement with a deeper state of the individual subjects being.

but hey, as a voyeuristic piece, you&#039;ve done well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dunno.</p>
<p>#3 is interesting, some others are ok and raises the minds curiosity enough to put them into a category of good.  Personally, i&#8217;d tighten down the set somewhat.</p>
<p>does it tell a full picture of last orders? probably not and expanse into all sides of life would increase the interest in it and provide some balance.</p>
<p>the roughness and gritty-ness i like.</p>
<p>you&#8217;ve gone for the inebriated, voyeuristic and paparazzi.  there is a whole other side which is a way more difficult subject &#8211; having access, the engagement of the subject in their intoxicated state, involvement with a deeper state of the individual subjects being.</p>
<p>but hey, as a voyeuristic piece, you&#8217;ve done well.</p>
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		<title>By: gaetano belverde</title>
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		<dc:creator>gaetano belverde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 05:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this kind of story, nice shot. Someone of them seems to be arranged, but the others are nice! I know that it is difficult to shot. cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this kind of story, nice shot. Someone of them seems to be arranged, but the others are nice! I know that it is difficult to shot. cheers</p>
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		<title>By: bob black</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dr. joni! :))))

first, i dont have time to write anything long because of a deadline (crowd breathes a collective sigh of relief), so i&#039;ll keep it simple. I love the simplicity of the pictures and that within each one, upon a second viewing, something odd, sometimes beautiful, sometimes startling, sometimes confusing, comes to the surface....and i love all the space within the fames....that is, most of the details in the frame serve to point toward the moment that catches the eye (whether it is a look, or a knife + expression cutting a cake, a claw-like white hand, a glazedover eye, a flash over a shoulder, a turned eye, an upturned tongue, a scatter shoe, etc)....that it&#039;s clearn and clear and that it, if not telling a story about Cardiff then at least a story about we&#039;re still shutting ourselves against one another through an outerreach....i&#039;ve seen many of your edits (including the one at Arles) and many projects, but for this essay, i drank it up as it is....

and it reminds me of a poem, a poem that meant a great deal to me when i was battering my own body, lungs, belly and mind, in university...and yet, it spoke to me, in a sense, saved a part of me...not that we are lost but that in our losing ways are still a part of one another....so, i&#039;ll leave u with that poem...and just say, well done mate....well done....

sorry (i guess) for the short comment)

cheers
bob

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  	In the Shreve High football stadium,
I think of Polacks nursing long beers in Tiltonsville,
And gray faces of Negroes in the blast furnace at Benwood,
And the ruptured night watchman of Wheeling Steel,
Dreaming of heroes.

All the proud fathers are ashamed to go home.
Their women cluck like starved pullets,
Dying for love.

Therefore,
Their sons grow suicidally beautiful
At the beginning of October,
And gallop terribly against each other&#039;s bodies.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dr. joni! :))))</p>
<p>first, i dont have time to write anything long because of a deadline (crowd breathes a collective sigh of relief), so i&#8217;ll keep it simple. I love the simplicity of the pictures and that within each one, upon a second viewing, something odd, sometimes beautiful, sometimes startling, sometimes confusing, comes to the surface&#8230;.and i love all the space within the fames&#8230;.that is, most of the details in the frame serve to point toward the moment that catches the eye (whether it is a look, or a knife + expression cutting a cake, a claw-like white hand, a glazedover eye, a flash over a shoulder, a turned eye, an upturned tongue, a scatter shoe, etc)&#8230;.that it&#8217;s clearn and clear and that it, if not telling a story about Cardiff then at least a story about we&#8217;re still shutting ourselves against one another through an outerreach&#8230;.i&#8217;ve seen many of your edits (including the one at Arles) and many projects, but for this essay, i drank it up as it is&#8230;.</p>
<p>and it reminds me of a poem, a poem that meant a great deal to me when i was battering my own body, lungs, belly and mind, in university&#8230;and yet, it spoke to me, in a sense, saved a part of me&#8230;not that we are lost but that in our losing ways are still a part of one another&#8230;.so, i&#8217;ll leave u with that poem&#8230;and just say, well done mate&#8230;.well done&#8230;.</p>
<p>sorry (i guess) for the short comment)</p>
<p>cheers<br />
bob</p>
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<p>  	In the Shreve High football stadium,<br />
I think of Polacks nursing long beers in Tiltonsville,<br />
And gray faces of Negroes in the blast furnace at Benwood,<br />
And the ruptured night watchman of Wheeling Steel,<br />
Dreaming of heroes.</p>
<p>All the proud fathers are ashamed to go home.<br />
Their women cluck like starved pullets,<br />
Dying for love.</p>
<p>Therefore,<br />
Their sons grow suicidally beautiful<br />
At the beginning of October,<br />
And gallop terribly against each other&#8217;s bodies.</p>
<p>&#8211;James Wright</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Nolly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Nolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joni; Congratulations with this piece, I like it. I suppose a lot of this nightlife is endemic around the world. I&#039;m out shooting most weekend nights here in NZ and see a lot of the same stuff too.. Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joni; Congratulations with this piece, I like it. I suppose a lot of this nightlife is endemic around the world. I&#8217;m out shooting most weekend nights here in NZ and see a lot of the same stuff too.. Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joni, this looks like a wonderful essay and something I hope you grow with. Congrats and I look forward to seeing where this progresses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joni, this looks like a wonderful essay and something I hope you grow with. Congrats and I look forward to seeing where this progresses.</p>
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		<title>By: tom hyde</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom hyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joni, great essay. I have nothing of substance to say other than that, it just shows what is, and well. This did not make me cringe at all, mostly smile, and I&#039;m not sure what that says about me ;-)) It makes me wonder what I could have come up with in my younger days of debauchery when I was on the inside but then, much of that could just not be seen with the camera. I wonder, for myself too, what this could be like by following a select group of young 20-somethings over a long period of time through many aspects of their lives, not just the pub crawl ... it would be a different animal to be sure but it would seem you have everything in place to do that. Thinking out loud, facing that choice/opportunity now myself. 

Hmmmm, maybe you could do Venice for a month, and Panos could do Cardiff ;-))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joni, great essay. I have nothing of substance to say other than that, it just shows what is, and well. This did not make me cringe at all, mostly smile, and I&#8217;m not sure what that says about me ;-)) It makes me wonder what I could have come up with in my younger days of debauchery when I was on the inside but then, much of that could just not be seen with the camera. I wonder, for myself too, what this could be like by following a select group of young 20-somethings over a long period of time through many aspects of their lives, not just the pub crawl &#8230; it would be a different animal to be sure but it would seem you have everything in place to do that. Thinking out loud, facing that choice/opportunity now myself. </p>
<p>Hmmmm, maybe you could do Venice for a month, and Panos could do Cardiff ;-))</p>
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		<title>By: PJ Hoggers</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJ Hoggers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of tits, bums, dicks and very, very thick calves... Just as it should be coming from Wales!

Well done! I enjoyed the energy and had a moment reminiscing about the good old days of unintelligble language and drinking so much beer I could barely stand up myself.

Some things never change. Evocative work. 

Er, cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of tits, bums, dicks and very, very thick calves&#8230; Just as it should be coming from Wales!</p>
<p>Well done! I enjoyed the energy and had a moment reminiscing about the good old days of unintelligble language and drinking so much beer I could barely stand up myself.</p>
<p>Some things never change. Evocative work. </p>
<p>Er, cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: jasmine.lux.</title>
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		<dc:creator>jasmine.lux.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Made me think, cringe and enjoy all at the same time... you sure captured those moments, I have to give you that... what can alcohol and drugs put you through?!
Good job</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Made me think, cringe and enjoy all at the same time&#8230; you sure captured those moments, I have to give you that&#8230; what can alcohol and drugs put you through?!<br />
Good job</p>
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		<title>By: JKaranka</title>
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		<dc:creator>JKaranka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys, thanks for the comments of all sorts. I&#039;ll chip in. I&#039;m most of the day off after. 

@john gladdy: I think that there are many other halfs to this story, which one do you refer to?

@ben roberts, james chance, rafal pruszynski: of all the edits of the work I&#039;ve done so far this is the consciously fastest in beat. I should have maybe kept it shorter than it is to make it still faster. I have other sequences in which I aim at building some sense of wonder and build the pace, while this one opens straight in and changes gear one up one down a couple of times. It&#039;s a bit like a Pantera song. If I was showing a much larger part of the project I would probably do a different slideshow of it, but I&#039;d most probably try to stick to a different medium like a book.  

@herve: I&#039;m not interested in producing an editorial work in which Cardiff is identifiable. There&#039;s not a single shot in this slideshow that nails the place down, but when you see them as a sequence you might know where it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys, thanks for the comments of all sorts. I&#8217;ll chip in. I&#8217;m most of the day off after. </p>
<p>@john gladdy: I think that there are many other halfs to this story, which one do you refer to?</p>
<p>@ben roberts, james chance, rafal pruszynski: of all the edits of the work I&#8217;ve done so far this is the consciously fastest in beat. I should have maybe kept it shorter than it is to make it still faster. I have other sequences in which I aim at building some sense of wonder and build the pace, while this one opens straight in and changes gear one up one down a couple of times. It&#8217;s a bit like a Pantera song. If I was showing a much larger part of the project I would probably do a different slideshow of it, but I&#8217;d most probably try to stick to a different medium like a book.  </p>
<p>@herve: I&#8217;m not interested in producing an editorial work in which Cardiff is identifiable. There&#8217;s not a single shot in this slideshow that nails the place down, but when you see them as a sequence you might know where it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafal Pruszynski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rafal Pruszynski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 06:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good job Joni, very much your style. I like the work, though as Ben said, maybe one-speed and wold have been nice to slow it down a bit. I&#039;m surprised that you didn&#039;t submit Welsh surfaces, actually, which to me is probably your strongest body of work.

Would be interesting to have this contrasted with Maciej&#039;s work. Same city, same topic, but so much different. Maybe that&#039;s what&#039;s coming next? The two bodies of work really do compliment each other really well.

All in all I&#039;m surprised this took so long to land on Burn seeing as this was your submission for EPF in 2008.

Good stuff.

I see grandpa Imants chimed in. Good on him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good job Joni, very much your style. I like the work, though as Ben said, maybe one-speed and wold have been nice to slow it down a bit. I&#8217;m surprised that you didn&#8217;t submit Welsh surfaces, actually, which to me is probably your strongest body of work.</p>
<p>Would be interesting to have this contrasted with Maciej&#8217;s work. Same city, same topic, but so much different. Maybe that&#8217;s what&#8217;s coming next? The two bodies of work really do compliment each other really well.</p>
<p>All in all I&#8217;m surprised this took so long to land on Burn seeing as this was your submission for EPF in 2008.</p>
<p>Good stuff.</p>
<p>I see grandpa Imants chimed in. Good on him.</p>
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