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	<title>Comments on: jenn ackerman &#8211; trapped [EPF Finalist]</title>
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		<title>By: Asylum &#8230; Hospital &#8230; Prison &#171; Prison Photography</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asylum &#8230; Hospital &#8230; Prison &#171; Prison Photography</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 22:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Trapped: http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/05/jenn-ackerman-trapped-epf-finalist/ http://indepth.jennackerman.com/trapped/feature.html [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jenn Ackerman. Trapped: Mental Illness in America&#8217;s Prisons &#171; Prison Photography</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn Ackerman. Trapped: Mental Illness in America&#8217;s Prisons &#171; Prison Photography</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mental Illness Inside America&#8217;s Prisons has deservedly received acclaim from burn magazine, 100 Eyes, Verve Photo, the White House News Photographers Association (honorable mention) and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: James Dodd</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/05/jenn-ackerman-trapped-epf-finalist/comment-page-8/#comment-41641</link>
		<dc:creator>James Dodd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 09:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A while ago I was introduced to a media piece I was extremely impressed by, the use of video, audio and stills was impeccable and really set the standard to photojournalism media pieces. The piece was trapped.

It inspired me, I&#039;m studying photojournalism [sorry excuse this self indulgent stuff for a moment] and as part of my course we had to complete a video assignment. Initially my thoughts were that video had no place in photojournalism and it should be kept to people with different skill sets. After watching trapped I felt the opposite. I was infused with ideas and endless possibilities (and I don&#039;t mean being a copy cat and heading to my nearest mental hospital... shooting fish in a russian is the probable bandwagon I&#039;d be more likely to jump on!) 


But when viewing trapped on burn, I got nothing. context felt lost, the images didn&#039;t have the same power and knowing it&#039;s original medium, it felt short and completely unfinished. To put it simply, it had in no way the same impact as the original multimedia piece.


These criticisms however aren&#039;t as much directed towards jenn&#039;s work, but more the platform this grant is operating on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A while ago I was introduced to a media piece I was extremely impressed by, the use of video, audio and stills was impeccable and really set the standard to photojournalism media pieces. The piece was trapped.</p>
<p>It inspired me, I&#8217;m studying photojournalism [sorry excuse this self indulgent stuff for a moment] and as part of my course we had to complete a video assignment. Initially my thoughts were that video had no place in photojournalism and it should be kept to people with different skill sets. After watching trapped I felt the opposite. I was infused with ideas and endless possibilities (and I don&#8217;t mean being a copy cat and heading to my nearest mental hospital&#8230; shooting fish in a russian is the probable bandwagon I&#8217;d be more likely to jump on!) </p>
<p>But when viewing trapped on burn, I got nothing. context felt lost, the images didn&#8217;t have the same power and knowing it&#8217;s original medium, it felt short and completely unfinished. To put it simply, it had in no way the same impact as the original multimedia piece.</p>
<p>These criticisms however aren&#8217;t as much directed towards jenn&#8217;s work, but more the platform this grant is operating on.</p>
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		<title>By: blog of still-dancing.com &#187; Trapped - Mental Illness in America&#8217;s Prisons</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/05/jenn-ackerman-trapped-epf-finalist/comment-page-8/#comment-41290</link>
		<dc:creator>blog of still-dancing.com &#187; Trapped - Mental Illness in America&#8217;s Prisons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 20:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nir Alon</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/05/jenn-ackerman-trapped-epf-finalist/comment-page-8/#comment-40591</link>
		<dc:creator>Nir Alon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 06:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic work! Moving, nauseating, frightening and thought provoking!</description>
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		<title>By: Leslie Granda-Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/05/jenn-ackerman-trapped-epf-finalist/comment-page-8/#comment-40575</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie Granda-Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 01:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing work Jenn. Congratulations on being a finalist. Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing work Jenn. Congratulations on being a finalist. Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Powers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Powers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 12:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The unbearable life of being a human?</description>
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		<title>By: SAIBAL GUPTA</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/05/jenn-ackerman-trapped-epf-finalist/comment-page-8/#comment-40487</link>
		<dc:creator>SAIBAL GUPTA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 12:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jenn expose ourselves to a world of nothingness.Birth is  pain to them ,the pain their mothers felt during childbirth,they carry the pain throughout their whole life.Pictures also potray the pathos,the unbearable life of being a human.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jenn expose ourselves to a world of nothingness.Birth is  pain to them ,the pain their mothers felt during childbirth,they carry the pain throughout their whole life.Pictures also potray the pathos,the unbearable life of being a human.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 00:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DAH:

&quot;ok, how about this: from now on under the photographs presented, either single or essays, everyone gets one comment..one shot at it…to be directed ONLY at the work presented….all others deleted…that is moderating , but self moderating…

for those who want to chit chat, wrangle, tell us it is their birthday, they can do that in Dialogue…not moderated except for trolls with expletives etc. which is already a rule…..make sense?&quot;


Actually suggested this several weeks ago -- and not just to keep Jim from being beaten up  -- but to focus on the essay. 

At that time, you didn&#039;t believe that many of the comments were not germane to the essays and nixed the idea. Good to see that you understand what the current comments section has become -- one with more comments on the commentors than on the essay itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DAH:</p>
<p>&#8220;ok, how about this: from now on under the photographs presented, either single or essays, everyone gets one comment..one shot at it…to be directed ONLY at the work presented….all others deleted…that is moderating , but self moderating…</p>
<p>for those who want to chit chat, wrangle, tell us it is their birthday, they can do that in Dialogue…not moderated except for trolls with expletives etc. which is already a rule…..make sense?&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually suggested this several weeks ago &#8212; and not just to keep Jim from being beaten up  &#8212; but to focus on the essay. </p>
<p>At that time, you didn&#8217;t believe that many of the comments were not germane to the essays and nixed the idea. Good to see that you understand what the current comments section has become &#8212; one with more comments on the commentors than on the essay itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 21:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DAH - To be clear, I wasn&#039;t criticizing you for wanting to keep the comments directed towards the images at hand, the shame is that the dialogue keeps going off the deep end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DAH &#8211; To be clear, I wasn&#8217;t criticizing you for wanting to keep the comments directed towards the images at hand, the shame is that the dialogue keeps going off the deep end.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/05/jenn-ackerman-trapped-epf-finalist/comment-page-8/#comment-40315</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 10:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven&#039;t gone through the thread comments on this, but without the text it&#039;s not easy to figure out the story here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t gone through the thread comments on this, but without the text it&#8217;s not easy to figure out the story here.</p>
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		<title>By: peter grant</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/05/jenn-ackerman-trapped-epf-finalist/comment-page-8/#comment-40294</link>
		<dc:creator>peter grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 02:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jenn.
Yes. You&#039;d think there&#039;d have to be a better way. A much better way than allowing politicians to buy votes by being hard on crime to the detreatment of of society as a whole.
Really worthy story to uncover and show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jenn.<br />
Yes. You&#8217;d think there&#8217;d have to be a better way. A much better way than allowing politicians to buy votes by being hard on crime to the detreatment of of society as a whole.<br />
Really worthy story to uncover and show.</p>
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		<title>By: Partha Pal</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/05/jenn-ackerman-trapped-epf-finalist/comment-page-8/#comment-40292</link>
		<dc:creator>Partha Pal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 02:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jenn,
A different world you have exposed here. A completely different world in this fanciful world. The story bears a social appeal to keep abreast from drugs and the future life of the  addicted people are so sorrowful and harsh. The social rejection is stressful and the society must have supportive to accept after treatment.
Thanks Jenn for exposing such world in America.
Hope for your best luck in EPF.
Regards.
Partha Pal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jenn,<br />
A different world you have exposed here. A completely different world in this fanciful world. The story bears a social appeal to keep abreast from drugs and the future life of the  addicted people are so sorrowful and harsh. The social rejection is stressful and the society must have supportive to accept after treatment.<br />
Thanks Jenn for exposing such world in America.<br />
Hope for your best luck in EPF.<br />
Regards.<br />
Partha Pal</p>
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		<title>By: peter grant</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/05/jenn-ackerman-trapped-epf-finalist/comment-page-8/#comment-40291</link>
		<dc:creator>peter grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 02:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry. i think you&#039;ve already addressed this DaAVID. So please forgive me missing it. No need to repeat yourself again.
Cheers.
Peter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry. i think you&#8217;ve already addressed this DaAVID. So please forgive me missing it. No need to repeat yourself again.<br />
Cheers.<br />
Peter.</p>
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		<title>By: peter grant</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/05/jenn-ackerman-trapped-epf-finalist/comment-page-8/#comment-40290</link>
		<dc:creator>peter grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 02:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DAVID Harvey. I might be repeating whats already been said or suggested but, if there is a problem with this comments page being distracted off topic from reviewing that particular body of work, by say, copyright issues or wether something is art or documentary, then could there be one other forum that deal with issues that are of hot topic for many of the photographers and editors who love this site so much, which could be highlighted say like a link page so anyone whose interested in an issue thats been brought up can go to that different page and discuss it there, leaving the essay page purely for reviewing photographs.
you got your work cut out for yourself Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DAVID Harvey. I might be repeating whats already been said or suggested but, if there is a problem with this comments page being distracted off topic from reviewing that particular body of work, by say, copyright issues or wether something is art or documentary, then could there be one other forum that deal with issues that are of hot topic for many of the photographers and editors who love this site so much, which could be highlighted say like a link page so anyone whose interested in an issue thats been brought up can go to that different page and discuss it there, leaving the essay page purely for reviewing photographs.<br />
you got your work cut out for yourself Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Cassandra Adams</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/05/jenn-ackerman-trapped-epf-finalist/comment-page-8/#comment-40279</link>
		<dc:creator>Cassandra Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 21:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jenn,

Allow me to premise my comments by saying that I have no background in photography, so I won&#039;t attempt to address the technical characteristics of your piece. However, I am working on my PhD in clinical psychology and felt that you might welcome a different perspective. 

At the suggestion of a friend, I viewed the series of images before reading your introduction. I think the piece is aptly named and the feeling of being trapped is clearly felt in most of the images. I have to say that I picked up on the jail context much more quickly than I picked up your attention to mental health.  That said, I also recognize the difficulty of capturing poor mental health via visual media without coming across as unoriginal or insensitive. Kudos to you for avoiding both of those pitfalls. 

My strongest critique is that, as a photographic civilian, I was distracted from the impact of some of the images by trying to figure out what was going on in the picture. I realize that abstract visual media can sometimes have a greater emotional impact than a corresponding concrete image. Given the resonant themes of isolation and loss of control, I imagine those images were an attempt to put the viewer in the inmates&#039; shoes. However, in this piece, the unfocused, abstract images felt like a jarring transition from the crispness of your other images and pulled me out of the piece instead of pulling my farther in.

Thank you for your careful attention to this topic. Best of luck on your journey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jenn,</p>
<p>Allow me to premise my comments by saying that I have no background in photography, so I won&#8217;t attempt to address the technical characteristics of your piece. However, I am working on my PhD in clinical psychology and felt that you might welcome a different perspective. </p>
<p>At the suggestion of a friend, I viewed the series of images before reading your introduction. I think the piece is aptly named and the feeling of being trapped is clearly felt in most of the images. I have to say that I picked up on the jail context much more quickly than I picked up your attention to mental health.  That said, I also recognize the difficulty of capturing poor mental health via visual media without coming across as unoriginal or insensitive. Kudos to you for avoiding both of those pitfalls. </p>
<p>My strongest critique is that, as a photographic civilian, I was distracted from the impact of some of the images by trying to figure out what was going on in the picture. I realize that abstract visual media can sometimes have a greater emotional impact than a corresponding concrete image. Given the resonant themes of isolation and loss of control, I imagine those images were an attempt to put the viewer in the inmates&#8217; shoes. However, in this piece, the unfocused, abstract images felt like a jarring transition from the crispness of your other images and pulled me out of the piece instead of pulling my farther in.</p>
<p>Thank you for your careful attention to this topic. Best of luck on your journey.</p>
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		<title>By: Barrie Watts</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/05/jenn-ackerman-trapped-epf-finalist/comment-page-8/#comment-40256</link>
		<dc:creator>Barrie Watts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 17:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, so here’s my one post on this work. 

There are some moving images in this story, but for me they seem isolated amongst the rest . Jenn is a great photographer, of that there is no doubt, but if she set out to produce a  “riveting body of work that made the viewer feel what I felt when I was inside the prison.” Then I think she failed in my opinion.  

I’m full of admiration for her in getting access to this institution and getting images of any sort. 

What I’d like to know is will the publication of this essay change the mental health funding situation in any way? Will the essay help to bring about change?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so here’s my one post on this work. </p>
<p>There are some moving images in this story, but for me they seem isolated amongst the rest . Jenn is a great photographer, of that there is no doubt, but if she set out to produce a  “riveting body of work that made the viewer feel what I felt when I was inside the prison.” Then I think she failed in my opinion.  </p>
<p>I’m full of admiration for her in getting access to this institution and getting images of any sort. </p>
<p>What I’d like to know is will the publication of this essay change the mental health funding situation in any way? Will the essay help to bring about change?</p>
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		<title>By: Stupid Photographer</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/05/jenn-ackerman-trapped-epf-finalist/comment-page-7/#comment-40251</link>
		<dc:creator>Stupid Photographer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 16:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for clarifying, DUH, sometimes it takes me a stupidly long time to understand.  Now I get it and am on board for the new way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for clarifying, DUH, sometimes it takes me a stupidly long time to understand.  Now I get it and am on board for the new way.</p>
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		<title>By: Herve</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2009/05/jenn-ackerman-trapped-epf-finalist/comment-page-7/#comment-40243</link>
		<dc:creator>Herve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 15:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that you and others have no idea how many private e-mails i get when things here go “off”…
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Maybe it&#039;s where people should be given the one (e-mail) only rule? 

Seriously,  people should know better and not make constant demands on your time, unless instigated by you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that you and others have no idea how many private e-mails i get when things here go “off”…<br />
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<p>Maybe it&#8217;s where people should be given the one (e-mail) only rule? </p>
<p>Seriously,  people should know better and not make constant demands on your time, unless instigated by you.</p>
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		<title>By: bob black</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 15:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David ....

no, sorry...i havent been looking every day, so i didnt know how long Jenn&#039;s work has been up....seemed like a long time, i imagine an indication of the thread of words. i wont suggest again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David &#8230;.</p>
<p>no, sorry&#8230;i havent been looking every day, so i didnt know how long Jenn&#8217;s work has been up&#8230;.seemed like a long time, i imagine an indication of the thread of words. i wont suggest again.</p>
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