angelo guarracino – quizas

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Angelo Guarracino

Quizas Mañana

 

This is the first chapter of my long term project called “Maybe Tomorrow”.

The project aims to reflect upon the perception man has of his own future in relation to his life on Earth, but mostly in relation to the idea of a possible life after death.

In this manner, I’ve tried to find all the elements that create not only a visual continuity but mostly a conceptual continuity with very strong symbols and cultural references. I have, thus created a link with the theme of hope and the  theme of doubt and fear, for the  weight of life and death.

Walking through the streets of Oaxaca or its countryside, I felt a strange emotion in seeing the moments of daily life of “campesinos”, artisans, workers, old and young people. There was an incredible power, nearly like that of magic, to their faces. In spite of the heavy work, there was a serenity and a limpid hope in their eyes.

I immediately understood that that was what i really wanted to represent with my photography. I also understood that I did not want to give answers in a journalistic manner, but would alternatively try to create questions.

I simply wanted to catch that innate suffering every man has because of being human, one who lives with a conscience in his own existence on Earth. At the same time, by living this life with effort and sacrifice, he can hope for a new life, perhaps not today, “maybe tomorrow”, maybe after the death.

Angelo Guarracino

 

99 Responses to “angelo guarracino – quizas”


  • ANTON.
    That comment applies to you as well. :))

  • JOE,

    do you… perhaps Joe… think that Joe… you’re using people’s first names overly often Joe… huh Joe… do ya Joe…

    Let me know ………………..Joe……………..

  • hmmm… i’ve heard that tone before, sounds exactly like what Ramanan Sivaranjan AKA funkaoshi might say.

    i bet if cared to look i could find more evidence to suggest this, but logging on to hcsp is just not something i find appealing to do anymore for exactly this reason, last time i looked the inmates like this one were running the asylum.

  • Also, I guess this has been pointed out above, but I can’t take people seriously who are over the age of 14 and still … feel like … they need to use … ellipses… as their only … form of punctuation … dude. -Ramanan Sivaranjan

    from just a couple of hours ago…hmm… mere coincidence?, i don’t think so, nice smoking gun there Ramanan, i wonder how many identities you can account for? it really is a sad day for HCSP.
    ..

  • Great job JOE…
    you are really really helping us a lot over here..
    people should pay u for your in depth critique/analysis.
    it comes from your heart, you put effort, u dont just talk to talk..
    we need your input
    thank u again for the phonecall from england yesterday, and yes i hope
    i’m gonna meet in person my new brazilian friend soon..
    peace & hugs

  • Hey Joe,

    I understand your frustration with all the Flickrjustice and trolling and whatnot, but please try not to lump a group of 27,000 into ONE entity. It’s not HCSP doing this, no matter how tribal it feels, we all operate on different maturity levels, as is normal.

    I’m sure the transgressors have much more in common with each other than being members of that group.

  • Jared, you are absolutely correct, i communicate daily with many of the members outside of hcsp,… Panos was on the phone with one of the past administrators of hcsp yesterday,… and i recently linked hcsp to the Magnum blog as a place of invention; if you know anything about me you would not question my hope for hcsp.

    unfortunately it’s just so clear that all the troll design plans are raised over at hcsp now, the Ben/Jinju attack could only come from there and i wasn’t at all suprised to find evidence of this last incident over there.

    but i will just have to let it go, i know. cheers.
    ..

  • ANGELO

    The comment about “photographic ambiguity” by Joe resonates with me, and I think that indeed you have a stronghold on it…I very much look forward to the future chapters of this piece and I wish you well with it..congratulations on making the inner, the outer..

  • ANGELO

    You have shown us your vision within the vision, poetry within the poem, shadow within the light, silence within the song. Mature, insightful, subtle and touching…this body of work is a shining beacon. Your young age, the short amount of time in its creation leave me breathless. But obviously years and days don’t matter when one has art in one’s soul. And that you do, my friend. That you do. Looking forward to following your journey. Please keep submitting new chapters as they come into being.

    Patricia

  • Joe,

    I do know you from HCSP (and was sorry to see you go) and I know how much you invested in that group. I wouldn’t call myself an active participant, but an active lurker (if that’s possible :} ).

    Calling it an HCSP thing makes it uncomfortable for me as a member (and maybe others) of that group to feel welcome here, which is something that I imagine no one wants.

    After all, there were designs for the same sort of site springing from HCSP, we exchanged emails on the subject (where I offered to spend some time transcribing old threads to a new site).

    Anyway Joe, good to see you here.

    curdiogenes (flickr)

  • ha, it’s a small world!

    You have no idea how close that came to being real Jared, i spent no less than £200 on buying the domain, installing Sharepoint, and getting some other features configured, Some ‘other’ admin worked through the night to get the blog configured with the back-end database, and we even had the e-mail up and working within a couple of days… alas we hit some issues with images that made it seem too clumsy, and it all fizzled out before we could take it to interested parties like yourself to start doing all the slave labour ;-) if it’s any consolation, i’m still getting billed monthly for the sharepoint service ;-(

    anyway, you are correct again and it’s good to have you over here as well.

  • No, it’s no consolation, although maybe it wasn’t a solve-all after all, trolls are everywhere, no? :)

    I sent you an email after you left to info@realreportage, I’m sure it got sucked into spam.

    Ok, enough hijacking Angelos’ thread, he deserves the space. Nice piece of work here….

  • As to the copyright issue, this is from the Copyright Office:

    “One of the rights accorded to the owner of copyright is the right to reproduce or to authorize others to reproduce the work in copies or phonorecords. This right is subject to certain limitations found in sections 107 through 118 of the Copyright Act (title 17, U. S. Code). One of the more important limitations is the doctrine of “fair use.” Although fair use was not mentioned in the previous copyright law, the doctrine has developed through a substantial number of court decisions over the years. This doctrine has been codified in section 107 of the copyright law.

    Section 107 contains a list of the various purposes for which the reproduction of a particular work may be considered “fair,” such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Section 107 also sets out four factors to be considered in determining whether or not a particular use is fair:

    the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;

    the nature of the copyrighted work;

    amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and

    the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
    The distinction between “fair use” and infringement may be unclear and not easily defined. There is no specific number of words, lines, or notes that may safely be taken without permission. Acknowledging the source of the copyrighted material does not substitute for obtaining permission.

    The 1961 Report of the Register of Copyrights on the General Revision of the U.S. Copyright Law cites examples of activities that courts have regarded as fair use: “quotation of excerpts in a review or criticism for purposes of illustration or comment; quotation of short passages in a scholarly or technical work, for illustration or clarification of the author’s observations; use in a parody of some of the content of the work parodied; summary of an address or article, with brief quotations, in a news report; reproduction by a library of a portion of a work to replace part of a damaged copy; reproduction by a teacher or student of a small part of a work to illustrate a lesson; reproduction of a work in legislative or judicial proceedings or reports; incidental and fortuitous reproduction, in a newsreel or broadcast, of a work located in the scene of an event being reported.”

    Copyright protects the particular way an author has expressed himself; it does not extend to any ideas, systems, or factual information conveyed in the work.

    The safest course is always to get permission from the copyright owner before using copyrighted material. The Copyright Office cannot give this permission.

    When it is impracticable to obtain permission, use of copyrighted material should be avoided unless the doctrine of “fair use” would clearly apply to the situation. The Copyright Office can neither determine if a certain use may be considered “fair” nor advise on possible copyright violations. If there is any doubt, it is advisable to consult an attorney.

    FL-102, Revised July 2006″

    And the following is the relevant part of the US Code covering fair use, which I think would be the main argument we would be using to justify our using the music:

    Ҥ 107. Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use40
    Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include —

    (1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;

    (2) the nature of the copyrighted work;

    (3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and

    (4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

    The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.”

    Anyone interested in the nitty gritty of this can find the information at the following website:

    http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#107

  • Lovely work Angelo — beautiful images and mood. You have a big big talent. I look forward to the next chapter.

  • great job Angelo!

    some really outstanding shots, thank you!

    and thank you (and many thanks to our common friend Nicolò) for having disclosed to me this website

    I remember David as a great teacher and a very nice man, so happy to (virtually) meet him again

    ciao ciao

    Stefano
    Milan, Italy

  • TO TROLLS.

    please stop it.. people here do not enjoy it.. and it’s stupid on another level all together.

    if you’re posting, post as yourself or get a grip and don’t bother.. anonymous posts from respected anonymous people can be of benefit, but please
    STOP STEELING PEOPLES NAMES
    you will destroy what could be of benefit.. it’s just not funny outside flickr.

  • Joe,

    I have no idea what the hell you are on about.

    1. Ben didnt attack anyone, I saw no attack in his tone. But Ben can defend himself.

    2. Jinju, well I am jinju. I know that I have not attacked anyone here because I have not written anything under any of the essays so far. Therefore I think, no, I KNOW you owe me an apology.

  • You will notice, Joe, that I sign my full name to anything I post here or in the forums. Unlike YOU, my anonymous friend. I dont hide, there is no jinju here, jinju is on flickr, and even there I have no idea what you read from me that would be any sort of plan of attack. You can rail on about the trolls, but what you are did here was just as bad. You want to say somethine to me? Do it under your full or real name.

  • this is really dull..
    simple = use your own names, speak for yourselves.. bitch about photos.. shadows are dull without detail.

    flickr people.. please do not ‘bring it here’.

  • P.S. Joe, it seems you are the same Joe from HCSP. Which really makes me wonder at this seeing as we were on good terms and never had any sort of fight or anymosity between us. This is just really strange to me.

  • David,

    Im not bringing anything over here. You know me from Roadtrips not flickr so you should atleast know what I am about and what Im not about. Why am I suddenly a flickr person? Ive been on roadtrips as long, if not longer than almost everybody who later joined. As far as I know, I brought nothing here, having not commented yet on any of the essays and having only had a short exchange with DAH.

  • Hey Rafal,

    I think there is a misunderstanding here (I could be wrong) but I read Joe’s comment as a reference to the trolling on another page in which someone was imitating ben (saying “Jinju! I love your work sir!, or something to that effect) Ben cleared it up saying it was not his post.

    I believe Joe is saying you WERE attacked (by a troll) and not something else.

  • Jared,

    perhaps, that may be very very true. If so I would apologize to Joe for this.

    I think DAH was onto it. We need a first time registration so lots of name stealing and anonymous crap can be eliminated. Its the anonymity that makes it bad, its the height of cowardice to attack people and their work while hiding. Here Im talking about flickr justice, people calling Panos stupid, etc. Not Joe.

  • I agree, especially the way things have started. The first time registration should take care of it and not add too much work to “the staffs” workload.

  • David,

    I’m always open to dialogue :)

    I’ve sent you a mail with my female toreras work several months ago and never got an answer from you. I’m thinking of submiting that body of work to the emerge photograpger’s found but I’d love to have your opinion first. It still has many photos and needs a final edition.

    Please let me know what I should do. Should I resend the mail again?

    Thanks for your support

    Sofia Quintas

  • perhaps, that may be very very true -Rafal

    Not perhaps, Is True. Rafal.

    This troll non-sense is makeing people enemies that used to be much better friends.. It’s putting people on edge to such an extent that Rafal would actually think i would do something to him that i should apologise for? I hope you and i can go back to business as usual now Rafal.

  • to be very specific i was citing this nonsense when i refereneced Ben/Jinju Attack:

    Oh my god ! JINJU from Flickr is here.
    I respect your work JINJU. i have expanded my photographic horizons since i have seen your work mr.
    JINJU. I love your work sir.
    ben
    -Ben

  • OK Joe, sorry for misunderstanding. I think we are all on the same page here, there needs to be some mechanism to prevent these trolls from “contributing”. An intial registration should be step 1.

    Joe,

    I agree but I didnt know you were the same Joe I knew from HCSP. If I did, I wouldnt suspect you of anything. I realized it a while after my initial post to you. We are still friends, atleast I still consider you my friend. I hope there are no hard feelings.

  • Rafal, i’ll never forget (that’s ‘forget’ Rafal, nor ‘forgive’ ;-) forget you telling me off for being an idiot years ago, i’d hate to see the gradual conversion from idiot to friendship be lost, and before you get confused again, i’m the joe at magnum as well :-) and i do link my site to my posts and it does have all of my contact details there! phone number included ;-) ok time to move on. :-)

  • Very enjoyable, coherent essay.

  • As an outsider (yes, another one of those f’ing people), I have to admit to being put off commenting till now.
    I honestly didn’t feel my comments on the previous two essays would have been accepted as they wouldn’t have been the complete love in that was happening… not that they would have been a complete and utter message of hate or anything, but the environment didn’t seem conducive to constructive criticism from unknown outsiders… and I’m still not sure whether it is?

    I did enjoyed this essay and think its a great start, but this is where I have to question something? Is it now presented as a completed item or is it just a work in progress? if so what makes it different from the other work in progress section that is pending?

    JD

  • evocative.. ethereal… dream like….. wonderful effort..

    of course as with all viewers some images impact more than others…. but in the end i find the edit of a photographer his personal vision.. not mine.. i allow myself to go along on your ride…. thanks for the passage

    someone didnt like frame 12… i loved it.. reminded me of a hugo brehme… classic

    and 16 and 17 gems

  • JAMES DODD…

    this is a good question….my plan is to publish essays as either totally complete or as at least completed chapters or sections of what may become a larger body of work….the soon to be “work in progress” will quite literally be the very beginning of a project …some essays take years to complete, others only a few days…if we were to use music as an example, this essay might be one song that would later become part of a whole album of related songs…or as Angelo clearly states here, this is “part one”….all of the essays presented so far are book projects in progress….none of them are the whole book…

    for example, you will soon see Mike Young’s “Blues , Booze and BBQ”…this is a slide show representing his book which will be published by Powerhouse in the fall…to really see what Mike has done, you will need to see the finished book…so, the slide show is just that…a slide show….an essay in and of itself , yet with more to come between the hard covers…as i have said many times, a slide show is one thing, a gallery show another and a book another…all essays , but with different most immediate manifestations…

    also coming soon will be Patricia Lay Dorsey’s “Falling Into Place”…this is a classic example of an online mentoring experience…Patricia started right on my old blog “road trips” and for those who were paying attention, she evolved right here in front of everyone…our new “work in progress” will make this process easier for everyone to see…

    many thanks for your comment and question…

    cheers, david

  • RAFAL…

    i am a bit lost here…i have seen a couple of comments from DAH, which is not me…my initials but not how i sign pieces here…yes, you are one of the “originals” here, and i have nothing but respect…i am only waiting for your essay…

    peace, david

  • JOE…RAFAL…

    ok, everybody please calm calm….both of you have a lot to say….i want you both right here!!!

    unfortunately, i think we will come up with some sort of registration for comments…i would prefer to leave things open and uncensored…the way i had my blog…but, for whatever reason, the BURN door open has brought in a lot of random anonymous chat that seems to be not only unproductive, but misleading….i welcome dissent of course..but, it is nice to know from whence it comes….and i will never never understand all the anger and vitriol expressed by some about photographers and photographs….rockets in and out of Palestine i get as something to be angry about…out of focus pictures???? hmmmmmmmm…….

    cheers, david

  • Hey Angelo, I really enjoyed your work. The pictures that I most enjoyed are the dark ones with a tiny glimpse of what’s going on. Great.

    You should all check Gustavo Santaolalla’s music not only from Babel and other soundtracks, but also from his tango “Bajofondo Tango Club”.

    A tiny correction, “Quizas” should be written “Quizás”.

    Matías

  • Okay, just found out that this essay was done on a workshop and that Angelo is only 21! Not to harp on age, but damn if I could have done anything like this when I was 21. Overall, it’s not really my cup of tea (I’ve already seen way too many photos of semi-empty Mexican plazas in this lifetime) but there are some really great singular images lurking within (esp the holding page one). I was a bit disparaging in another thread in regards to this essay (really just to make a point) but now that I know how new this talent is and the short amount of time it was made in I’ve changed my mind considerably.

    One thing is that I think both this and Panos’s edits could have used a tweak from another set of eyes. Both would have been potentially much stronger with a deletion of a small number of images and small shuffle of sequence- which the photographers themselves might have been too close to the work, too new to editing, or even too tired/overwhelmed to see. How much influence does DAH or Anton or whomever have before posting these essays? Should BURN have a defacto “editor” or is it best to let the photographer’s “sink or swim” on their own? One of the things you do as you grow as a photographer is to learn how to reach out and seek help and opinions from others, even though sometimes that help means letting go of certain things (ie your “personal vision”) and can be painful. But whenever I’ve consulted others and made tough cutting decisions on their advice my projects have always gotten tighter and more successful and actually even more personal and fulfilled.

    Anyway, just some food for thought. Editing your work is the toughest aspect of the whole process I find, often even more so than taking the pictures in the first place. And I won’t even get into post-processing, another key aspect that will allow images/essays to stand or fall. My hope is that the rush to “publish” here doesn’t neglect these key aspects. Sometimes it’s good to put the work away for a while (a week, a month, a year?) and then come back to it with a fresh set of eyes.

  • Thanks for your kind words, David! We have never met in person. It is one of my dearest hopes that we will meet, someday soon, as I admire you and your work, both photographic and educational, greatly!! You may know my work, I have linked to it under my real name, on your old blog, in the past. And I hope you do publish what I have to offer, as I have submitted one stupid image thus far and will submit more in the future. All the best to you, your family and friends in the New Year!

  • SMART PHOTOGRAPHER (you are…sorry, it is hard for me to call anyone stupid…please forgive)..

    as i am sure you can imagine what we have going here will be a movable feast….many mistakes will be made, but i hope in the long run to at least be a part of a new photographic paradigm for the future….i have a feeling you would wish for the same..let’s break down some fences!!

    surely we will not always agree…fine…good…healthy…damn, i just want to be able to take some photographs i care about and maybe sensitize at least one other person and provide a platform for others to do the same…does not seem like it should be so difficult and if we are not going to have some fun doing it, then what the hell?? in any case, i welcome your input on all levels…

    all best wishes for you and yours in 2009….and it may be a REALLY STUPID IDEA, but let’s at least pretend that this will be the year each of us can have at least one little dream come true…

    cheers, david

  • I have VERY high hopes for this place! The riveting discussion that’s taking place around Katharina’s image is a perfect example of how fabulous this place can be, and what a beacon of hope it already is! Honest discussion – deep discussion – is so rare these days, on the web and off, yet here it is, going gangbusters! All credit to you, Sir! So yes, let’s hope some of our stupid dreams do come true in 2009. For me, one of those dreams is that you and this place prosper and thrive! Cheers to that!

  • Angelo, this is a seriously good piece of work. When I read that it was created during a short DAH workshop I was amazed at the quality of the photography. It feels mature: you must have really connected to the place and its inhabitants. If you photographed digitally, I would love to see some examples of your work in colour as well as a look at your workflow i.e. what you use to get your “look”.

    Similarly for the photographs of katharina hesse – not in order to copy a particular technique – but to expose different workflows to the audience here and to allow them to add to their own expertise; taking what is useful, adapting it as required, and making it their own.

    Best wishes,

    Mike R.

  • Angelo,

    This essay is beautiful and I look forward to seeing much more in the coming months and years. What amazes me most is that you humbly showed up to our workshop on day 1 with about half these pictures created during your first day or so in Oaxaca…no attitude, a defined style, cohesive vision, and a sense of inner truth. The questions we ask ourselves about our existence and our purpose must be explored visually…I am excited that you have chosen to take it on and explore this theme. I’m sure with devotion to this project, the right moments will be revealed to you as you learn more about hope and despair, life and death. Without ideas behind our pictures, what are they?

    Be well and keep it up. andy

  • Angelo, that was one of the most beautiful visual poems I have seen. And the stirring music couldn’t be a more perfect fit. hmmmm.. I’m trying to think of something negative to say so as not to ‘coddle’ Mr. Guarracino… just nothing is coming to mind!

    Brilliant and evocative, I will watch several times.. I am learning from this piece… learning and loving it. Bravo.

  • Angelo,

    very nice and very poetic essay, I wait impatiently for the chapter two!!

    Best regards, audrey

    ps: the husband of my sister is also called angelo! Italian family!

  • Some very nice shapes and feelings in amongst this. I see where it was intending to go, but for me the music is so hauntingly beautiful that it sort of ‘stole’ the essay. not sure where i am with the whole multimedia slideshow with prologue that seems more and more popular of late on the web, but i do appreciate that it is very much a contemporary thing that should be explored to its fullest. That said, we are after all photographers, or at least that is our main tool for the telling of tales and i guess we need to be careful to maintain balance in essays that are supported by other mediums so that they do not overpower sensitive imagery, or conversely, provide a crutch for work not quite strong enough to hang on its own.
    Note 1: I re-watched the slides without the soundtrack and enjoyed it. Didnt blow me away, but certainly coherent and sensitively rendered.
    Note 2: my screen name here is a direct reference to what i am called at the other place where apparently i am a troll and have been banned.It does however take you to my website where my name and contact details are there for all to see.
    john

  • john

    good points about the mmedia.

    and no worries. as long as you don’t act like a troll, you can look like a troll all you want :)

    (no pun intended :)

    cheers, glad you’re here too

  • JOHN GLADDY….

    i only had time for a quick peek at your work…very very interesting indeed…i will come back to it again…you are very welcomed here….thanks for your comment and i look forward to exploring your work futher…

    cheer, david

  • FYI: I didn’t post the comment Joe is complaining about up thread. I don’t need to make up accounts to mock peoples use of ellipses. I’m fine doing that all by myself.

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