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		<title>By: A conversation with Chris Johns, Editor-in-Chief of National Geographic Magazine &#124; Society Matters</title>
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		<dc:creator>A conversation with Chris Johns, Editor-in-Chief of National Geographic Magazine &#124; Society Matters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 14:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] now calls home — the Outer Banks of North Carolina. Chris Johns has scheduled this story — with photographs and text by David — for publication later this year in National [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: pAtrIcIO m.</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2012/01/final-edit-obx/comment-page-2/#comment-104633</link>
		<dc:creator>pAtrIcIO m.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 08:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ ALL: 

One more quote to start this week-end:
&lt;i&gt;
&quot;Despite being a citizen of the digital world, or maybe because he knew to well its isolating potential, Jobs was a strong believer in face-to-face meeting. There&#039;s a temptation in our networked age to think that ideas can be developed by iChat or e-mail. Creativity comes from spontaneous meetings, from random discussions. You run into someone, you ask what you&#039;re doing, you say wow!, and soon you&#039;re cooking up all sort of ideas&quot;
&lt;/i&gt;
and
&lt;i&gt;
&quot;People don&#039;t know what they want until you show it to them&quot;
&lt;/i&gt;

P.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ALL: </p>
<p>One more quote to start this week-end:<br />
<i><br />
&#8220;Despite being a citizen of the digital world, or maybe because he knew to well its isolating potential, Jobs was a strong believer in face-to-face meeting. There&#8217;s a temptation in our networked age to think that ideas can be developed by iChat or e-mail. Creativity comes from spontaneous meetings, from random discussions. You run into someone, you ask what you&#8217;re doing, you say wow!, and soon you&#8217;re cooking up all sort of ideas&#8221;<br />
</i><br />
and<br />
<i><br />
&#8220;People don&#8217;t know what they want until you show it to them&#8221;<br />
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<p>P.</p>
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		<title>By: eva</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2012/01/final-edit-obx/comment-page-2/#comment-104632</link>
		<dc:creator>eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 08:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WILLIAM EGGLESTON anyone?

http://wayneford.posterous.com/the-unseen-chromes-of-legendary-american-phot]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WILLIAM EGGLESTON anyone?</p>
<p><a href="http://wayneford.posterous.com/the-unseen-chromes-of-legendary-american-phot" rel="nofollow">http://wayneford.posterous.com/the-unseen-chromes-of-legendary-american-phot</a></p>
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		<title>By: bob black</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2012/01/final-edit-obx/comment-page-2/#comment-104622</link>
		<dc:creator>bob black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 21:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DAVID :)

no time to write, just saying: good luck with the edit and NG selection. Will be looking in June :))....I&#039;m no  NG editor for sure, but I would totally lead with the Photo Crew pic and you with that golden surfer hair (where have the years/follicles gone? ;)))&gt;....love that old pic...an a great intro....

sure the essay will sing :))

cheers
b]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DAVID :)</p>
<p>no time to write, just saying: good luck with the edit and NG selection. Will be looking in June :))&#8230;.I&#8217;m no  NG editor for sure, but I would totally lead with the Photo Crew pic and you with that golden surfer hair (where have the years/follicles gone? ;)))&gt;&#8230;.love that old pic&#8230;an a great intro&#8230;.</p>
<p>sure the essay will sing :))</p>
<p>cheers<br />
b</p>
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		<title>By: david alan harvey</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2012/01/final-edit-obx/comment-page-2/#comment-104615</link>
		<dc:creator>david alan harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PATRICIO...

the photographer is always at the heart of the stories at NG...after all it is a picture driven magazine and only the photographer has actually &quot;been there&quot; and is often working off her/his own idea in the first place...so photographer involvement has always been a part of the NG experience...still, the editor, in this case Chris Johns makes the final decisions....yet he is not a tyrant , nor have i ever seen a tyrant at NG...the decision are not made in a vacuum, and really depend mostly on space limitations or on type of content appropriate for their demographic....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PATRICIO&#8230;</p>
<p>the photographer is always at the heart of the stories at NG&#8230;after all it is a picture driven magazine and only the photographer has actually &#8220;been there&#8221; and is often working off her/his own idea in the first place&#8230;so photographer involvement has always been a part of the NG experience&#8230;still, the editor, in this case Chris Johns makes the final decisions&#8230;.yet he is not a tyrant , nor have i ever seen a tyrant at NG&#8230;the decision are not made in a vacuum, and really depend mostly on space limitations or on type of content appropriate for their demographic&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: panos skoulidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>panos skoulidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 19:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2012/jan/05/eve-arnold]]></description>
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		<title>By: panos skoulidas</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2012/01/final-edit-obx/comment-page-2/#comment-104606</link>
		<dc:creator>panos skoulidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 17:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eva</title>
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		<dc:creator>eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 17:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So this is a different magazine, not NatGeo, but it&#039;s about getting educated, study study study.. and fits in right here I think.. and I gotta kill the time while ironing.. one hour video, stumbled over the link on twitter.. and I can see why it had such an influence on some to become photographers tehmselves, like DAH, if I remember well:

http://vimeo.com/couchmode/user9518463/videos/sort:date/33132931]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this is a different magazine, not NatGeo, but it&#8217;s about getting educated, study study study.. and fits in right here I think.. and I gotta kill the time while ironing.. one hour video, stumbled over the link on twitter.. and I can see why it had such an influence on some to become photographers tehmselves, like DAH, if I remember well:</p>
<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/couchmode/user9518463/videos/sort:date/33132931" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/couchmode/user9518463/videos/sort:date/33132931</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2012/01/final-edit-obx/comment-page-2/#comment-104600</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 16:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;“I used to point out, at art school you can teach the craft; it’s the poetry you can’t teach. But now they try to teach the poetry and not the craft.”&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;b&gt;David Hockney&lt;/b&gt;
I think David Hockney should join us Burn :))]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><i>“I used to point out, at art school you can teach the craft; it’s the poetry you can’t teach. But now they try to teach the poetry and not the craft.”</i></b><br />
<b>David Hockney</b><br />
I think David Hockney should join us Burn :))</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 15:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bravo!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo!!</p>
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		<title>By: eva</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2012/01/final-edit-obx/comment-page-2/#comment-104598</link>
		<dc:creator>eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 15:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David..

Thank YOU.. for caring about us, this audience here.. would be so much easier just doing your own stuff, instead you take the time and energy to give what to me seems the logical, yet unexpected continuation to theriobook workshop. Between you and Frostfrog there&#039;s enough input to last for a while!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David..</p>
<p>Thank YOU.. for caring about us, this audience here.. would be so much easier just doing your own stuff, instead you take the time and energy to give what to me seems the logical, yet unexpected continuation to theriobook workshop. Between you and Frostfrog there&#8217;s enough input to last for a while!</p>
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		<title>By: Carlo</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2012/01/final-edit-obx/comment-page-2/#comment-104597</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 14:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[excellent news! great it all worked out. What is more nerve recking.....the meeting or knowing what&#039;s ahead after the approval?
I&#039;m looking forward to that interview. THANKS YOU!

As civi says: &quot;what not to love&quot;?!?!?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent news! great it all worked out. What is more nerve recking&#8230;..the meeting or knowing what&#8217;s ahead after the approval?<br />
I&#8217;m looking forward to that interview. THANKS YOU!</p>
<p>As civi says: &#8220;what not to love&#8221;?!?!?!</p>
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		<title>By: david alan harvey</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2012/01/final-edit-obx/comment-page-2/#comment-104596</link>
		<dc:creator>david alan harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 14:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PATRICIO

great quotes from Jobs...yes, this is what makes people do great things....must be 100% PERSONALLY involved...i mean you gotta CARE...


EVA

speaking of, thanks for CARING...much appreciated..only sorry i did not jump in here sooner...i literally did not and do not have much spare time..thanks for your patience....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PATRICIO</p>
<p>great quotes from Jobs&#8230;yes, this is what makes people do great things&#8230;.must be 100% PERSONALLY involved&#8230;i mean you gotta CARE&#8230;</p>
<p>EVA</p>
<p>speaking of, thanks for CARING&#8230;much appreciated..only sorry i did not jump in here sooner&#8230;i literally did not and do not have much spare time..thanks for your patience&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: eva</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2012/01/final-edit-obx/comment-page-2/#comment-104595</link>
		<dc:creator>eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 14:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok.. PHEW.. was turning blue, now breathing again.. just kidding, well, sort of.. looking forward to see how this evolves.. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok.. PHEW.. was turning blue, now breathing again.. just kidding, well, sort of.. looking forward to see how this evolves.. :)</p>
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		<title>By: david alan harvey</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2012/01/final-edit-obx/comment-page-2/#comment-104594</link>
		<dc:creator>david alan harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 14:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it was just a truly warm meeting yesterday at NatGeo with the Editor (who i am going to interview right now for Burn)....there is still process to come.....i must write the text....a layout must be done in the next week...to get this story into the June 2012 issue, will take lots of work, fast....i think it just perfect if i keep all of you right in this loop....just so you know how THIS is...not to say there are not other ways, other ways to think about pictures,  but this is a good time to explain THIS way...

for sure very few realize the process to magazine publication....things always look easier or less complex than they actually are....

anyway, stay tuned...this interview exclusive to Burn with Chris Johns, Editor NatGeo...i cannot promise he will have the time nor the inclination to answer your questions...i will gently ask...if he does, it would be a first....students always ask me how editors think, how they choose, how and why they decide this or decide that....you who are here will at least know way more after this interview than you did before....right from the number one source....

cheers, david]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it was just a truly warm meeting yesterday at NatGeo with the Editor (who i am going to interview right now for Burn)&#8230;.there is still process to come&#8230;..i must write the text&#8230;.a layout must be done in the next week&#8230;to get this story into the June 2012 issue, will take lots of work, fast&#8230;.i think it just perfect if i keep all of you right in this loop&#8230;.just so you know how THIS is&#8230;not to say there are not other ways, other ways to think about pictures,  but this is a good time to explain THIS way&#8230;</p>
<p>for sure very few realize the process to magazine publication&#8230;.things always look easier or less complex than they actually are&#8230;.</p>
<p>anyway, stay tuned&#8230;this interview exclusive to Burn with Chris Johns, Editor NatGeo&#8230;i cannot promise he will have the time nor the inclination to answer your questions&#8230;i will gently ask&#8230;if he does, it would be a first&#8230;.students always ask me how editors think, how they choose, how and why they decide this or decide that&#8230;.you who are here will at least know way more after this interview than you did before&#8230;.right from the number one source&#8230;.</p>
<p>cheers, david</p>
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		<title>By: pAtrIcIO m.</title>
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		<dc:creator>pAtrIcIO m.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 11:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good mornig everyone!
Still posting some stuff about the Steve Jobs Biography:

&lt;i&gt;...engineers are taught to make a decision analitically, but there are times when relying on gut intuition is most indispensable. &lt;/i&gt;

Below a whole paragraph about Apple engagement, focus, aim and commitement, months after the released of the iPod:
&lt;i&gt;
“The older I get, the more I see how motivations matter... We won, because we personally love music. We made the iPod for ourselves, and when you&#039;re doing something for yourself, or your best friend or family, you&#039;re not going to cheese it out. 
If you don’t love something, you’re not going to go the extra mile, work the extra weekend, challenge the status quo.”
&lt;/i&gt;

Wish you a good week-end! 
P.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good mornig everyone!<br />
Still posting some stuff about the Steve Jobs Biography:</p>
<p><i>&#8230;engineers are taught to make a decision analitically, but there are times when relying on gut intuition is most indispensable. </i></p>
<p>Below a whole paragraph about Apple engagement, focus, aim and commitement, months after the released of the iPod:<br />
<i><br />
“The older I get, the more I see how motivations matter&#8230; We won, because we personally love music. We made the iPod for ourselves, and when you&#8217;re doing something for yourself, or your best friend or family, you&#8217;re not going to cheese it out.<br />
If you don’t love something, you’re not going to go the extra mile, work the extra weekend, challenge the status quo.”<br />
</i></p>
<p>Wish you a good week-end!<br />
P.</p>
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		<title>By: eva</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2012/01/final-edit-obx/comment-page-2/#comment-104592</link>
		<dc:creator>eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 11:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill..

you&#039;ve opened a can of worms.. on a very personal level..

But that&#039;s not the purpose of my comment.. just bumped into this:

http://www.emphas.is/web/guest/discoverprojects?projectID=462#17

Not Alaska, but COLD! You might perhaps even know the photographer.. or just enjoy the video and pictures..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill..</p>
<p>you&#8217;ve opened a can of worms.. on a very personal level..</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s not the purpose of my comment.. just bumped into this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.emphas.is/web/guest/discoverprojects?projectID=462#17" rel="nofollow">http://www.emphas.is/web/guest/discoverprojects?projectID=462#17</a></p>
<p>Not Alaska, but COLD! You might perhaps even know the photographer.. or just enjoy the video and pictures..</p>
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		<title>By: Frostfrog</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2012/01/final-edit-obx/comment-page-2/#comment-104591</link>
		<dc:creator>Frostfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 10:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This seems to have now become the default dialogue page, so I will note that I just put up part four in my David Alan Harvey Loft workshop series. In a weird way I do go back into family albums, so it is not totally off-topic.  I fear that it is of a nature that will drive away 30 readers for everyone that it holds. But I have gotten into this vein and must ride it out. When this done, I will revert back to something closer, but maybe not quite, to the past and see if I can start winning some readers back.

This is the master link to the series, to include all posts as I make them:

http://www.logbookwasilla.com/logbookwasilla/tag/david-alan-harvey-loft-workshop]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems to have now become the default dialogue page, so I will note that I just put up part four in my David Alan Harvey Loft workshop series. In a weird way I do go back into family albums, so it is not totally off-topic.  I fear that it is of a nature that will drive away 30 readers for everyone that it holds. But I have gotten into this vein and must ride it out. When this done, I will revert back to something closer, but maybe not quite, to the past and see if I can start winning some readers back.</p>
<p>This is the master link to the series, to include all posts as I make them:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.logbookwasilla.com/logbookwasilla/tag/david-alan-harvey-loft-workshop" rel="nofollow">http://www.logbookwasilla.com/logbookwasilla/tag/david-alan-harvey-loft-workshop</a></p>
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		<title>By: eva</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2012/01/final-edit-obx/comment-page-2/#comment-104590</link>
		<dc:creator>eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 08:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John..

You&#039;re right, memories are there.. and even memories that are not our own, but that we have heard of.. going backwards in familyalbums I know more than I could ever remember.. reconnecting with people I&#039;ve never known, but have shaped who I am.. weird stuff..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John..</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, memories are there.. and even memories that are not our own, but that we have heard of.. going backwards in familyalbums I know more than I could ever remember.. reconnecting with people I&#8217;ve never known, but have shaped who I am.. weird stuff..</p>
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		<title>By: a civilian-mass audience</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2012/01/final-edit-obx/comment-page-1/#comment-104588</link>
		<dc:creator>a civilian-mass audience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 06:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[EVE ARNOLD is going Upstairs...

Safe Journey ,our friend...safe journey...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EVE ARNOLD is going Upstairs&#8230;</p>
<p>Safe Journey ,our friend&#8230;safe journey&#8230;</p>
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