Comments on: clear eyes… https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2009/02/clear-eyes/ burn is an online feature for emerging photographers worldwide. burn is curated by magnum photographer david alan harvey. Sat, 18 Jun 2016 08:47:32 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2.4 By: Photojournalism « moonshinemedia https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2009/02/clear-eyes/#comment-51421 Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:36:13 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1496#comment-51421 […] Yeah, I know it’s not easy. But still. Check out the discussions section on BURN magazine. Some interesting things there… Some new directions? Here’s a great list of where to […]

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By: Photojournalism | 12th Press https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2009/02/clear-eyes/#comment-51371 Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:14:37 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1496#comment-51371 […] I know it’s not easy. But still. Check out the discussions section on BURN magazine. Some interesting things there… Some new directions? Here’s a great list of where to […]

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By: marcin luczkowski https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2009/02/clear-eyes/#comment-32109 Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:03:37 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1496#comment-32109 http://www.reuterspix.com/congo/

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By: david bowen https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2009/02/clear-eyes/#comment-30861 Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:42:43 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1496#comment-30861 i had to miss this today so i showed his M in M piece ´bruce has a ball´ during the lunchbreak.. really enjoying these live chats.

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By: Joni Karanka https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2009/02/clear-eyes/#comment-30842 Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:36:48 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1496#comment-30842 Bruce Gilden is answering questions over at the Magnum twitter, here:
http://twitter.com/magnumphotos

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By: Joe https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2009/02/clear-eyes/#comment-30798 Tue, 03 Mar 2009 07:13:45 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1496#comment-30798 DAH thanks :-)

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By: david bowen https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2009/02/clear-eyes/#comment-30782 Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:39:31 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1496#comment-30782 oh… right… just 2 clicks and there they are..
http://www.michaelitkoff.com/streetportraits.php

must sleep.. 6 hours of student appraisals in morning..

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By: david bowen https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2009/02/clear-eyes/#comment-30780 Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:37:49 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1496#comment-30780 for ERICA..

http://2point8.whileseated.org/2009/02/27/michael-itkoffs-street-portraits-exhibition-and-book/

:ø)

not sure i am a fan of these.. unable to find larger copies online at this time of night.
yawn.
witty, though – and i like that ..

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By: Preston Merchant https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2009/02/clear-eyes/#comment-30767 Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:51:02 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1496#comment-30767 Hi, David. Well, I was in the UK in January and will be back there at some point soon — I have much more work to do. Perhaps late June would be a good time to go. As for the crumbling world economy, your beer may be cheap, David, but I’m sure it will be plentiful!

With thanks,

Preston

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By: david alan harvey https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2009/02/clear-eyes/#comment-30759 Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:14:27 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1496#comment-30759 PRESTON….

i totally forgot that you are in the UK…at least i think so…??? yes yes, you must come to the Magnum meeting/party as well..usually the last Thursday in June, but i will send you specifics …we move the meeting each year between our three offices and this year the host is the London office….with the economy in a down slide, we may not have quite the extravagant bash as has been sometimes the case, but we will make you feel quite at home nevertheless…

cheers, david

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By: david alan harvey https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2009/02/clear-eyes/#comment-30758 Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:03:00 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1496#comment-30758 JOE…

you are not wrong about my intent for BURN….and i do not want to “end the comments”…i just want to have them in one place….it is not a philosophical reasoning, but rather a technical or aesthetic one…and i could very well be wrong about the flow…if so, i will come back to this format…

again, there is no “pressure” on me from anyone other than well meaning friends who just want BURN to be the best it can be…i hold your opinion in just as high regard as i do theirs…so, let’s just see how it goes for awhile with the comments all coming under Dialogue….

in any case, i would not want to stop in any way your stream of thoughts…you are among the most thought provoking writers we have here….by the way, i totally missed your post the first time around your post offering potential support for Lisa…it is in this altruistic spirit that BURN exists at all..good on you Joe…

please consider yourself invited to our annual Magnum fiesta which will be in London at the end of June….i have already invited Ben and David B…details will be forwarded to you soonest….

cheers, david

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By: david bowen https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2009/02/clear-eyes/#comment-30756 Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:57:56 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1496#comment-30756 superb !
Live Q&A with Bruce Gilden on Twitter
Mark you calendars: Live Q&A with Magnum Photographer Bruce Gilden on Twitter, Tuesday March 3rd 10am EST

just got that through the magnum facebook thing.

just been watching an excellent front line club live chat with reza through BJP blog..
interesting stuff.

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By: david bowen https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2009/02/clear-eyes/#comment-30747 Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:00:07 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1496#comment-30747 joe – just enjoyed your warehouse series.. some strong photos in there mate, and a nicely worked story – seems you caught most of the peripherals :ø)

will have to visit edin and revisit some excess with you.

cheers
david

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By: Joe https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2009/02/clear-eyes/#comment-30737 Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:21:25 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1496#comment-30737 i don’t disagree with what you said Jim, it’s just that as many photographic intentions that there are out there, there is an almost equal amount of audiences for those intentions.

for me Burn is all about the multitude of intentions the force me to think about what kind of audience could appreciate this; heck, half the time i wonder what the intention was at all, but most of the time when i figure it out i’m glad i made the effort.

i used to think this was David’s sole intention for Burn, to unhinge all the dogma and force us to rethink things purely by his promotion of the work and thus his endorsement of something we should spend time thinking about. So i’m likely wrong about this place as well ;-)

but to the point, intention is not perfection; i look for perfection of intentions in other places. For me it’s the diamonds in the rough that fascinate me about this place and more so the effort of so many jewellers to explore how the stone should be cut, could be cut, should not be cut at all, these are things that can not be done with a finished gem.

it’s in this spirit that we all become co-collaborators, people that take the time to understand first the intention and then unleash all the ideas and possibilities to make that intention happen better than it already has or celebrate it for perfection, but perfection is pretty ambitious, but nothing is really possible without knowing the intention.

unfortunately i think there is pressure on David to pitch the stones on Burn as cut and end the comments, or for me the mad discussion amongst jewellers. If this means that more stones will appear then more stones is better than no stones i suppose, but i do think much of the energy of Burn is really the magic of a bunch of jewellers receiving a new stone and either making an effort to understand all of its facets and exploring the possibilities, or being one of the hundreds of others enjoying the conversation that’s taking place.

so maybe we’re both wrong Jim ;-)

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By: Preston Merchant https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2009/02/clear-eyes/#comment-30735 Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:18:57 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1496#comment-30735 Jim, the point of Burn is to teach people how to be professionals — which means submitting your work for consideration by people with different viewpoints, to learn from editors and peers, and to showcase the work to people who might be in a position to take your career to the next level. I don’t know why this is so hard for you to fathom.

There is much to be gained — by everyone, regardless of skill level or aspiration — by participating in Burn, whether as a contributor of photos or commentary or as a lurker. Learning how to talk about and to critique photography is a skill worthy of developing, whether you are shooter, editor, or aficionado. Photography occupies such a marginal place in the national discourse. Learning how to examine, evaluate, and respond to photography is important if photography is going to matter at all to anyone.

I find it odd that you, Jim, after a 40-year career are so troubled by Burn and the images here. The world is different now. No one will have the career trajectory you did. Photographers who are starting out now will reach levels of professionalism, in terms of skill and financial viability, in ways fundamentally different from what was available to you years ago. I’m glad you have been able to shoot almost every day of your adult life and get paid for it. But there are a thousand different ways now to make one’s way in the world as a photographer. That has been the whole point of Burn.

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By: Jim Powers https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2009/02/clear-eyes/#comment-30729 Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:51:19 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1496#comment-30729 Joe, everyone has their own reasons to photograph. I’m probably making bad assumptions, but I wonder why people would be submitting their work to a project like Burn magazine if they are only talented amateurs who have no interest in being professionals? I thought that was everyone’s goal in this specific venue. The goal to produce books or essays or single photos that might bring more than an atta boy.

If this is simply another workshop for folks with time on their hands, then tell me now.

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By: tom hyde https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2009/02/clear-eyes/#comment-30727 Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:24:22 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1496#comment-30727 I can’t keep up here. As soon as a good discussion starts on which I might have something to say, and I chew on it a little while, it’s long past. But, regarding newspapers, trends, and what it all means, I dumped my post about the industry and google and freelance potential in favor of just this video. NOW is the most exciting of times, of accelerating exponential growth and change, it is the time of innovators. Gone are the days of centralized information generation and control. Gone are the days of corporate media gods. The gods are dead. Traditional employment in the industry is dead. We are all publishers now and the cream will rise to the top much faster because of it. I would argue that the true financial incentive in journalism, perhaps the ONLY incentive for the future, IS in independent multimedia creation, in convergence, in innovation. Technology has slipped the chains. So, to quote the ending of a recent blockbuster movie, “What the fuck have you done today?” (and I say this as much to myself as anyone else in an encouraging, get up off the floor, get back in the game kind of way because this is the breaking dawn of the golden age of independent content.)

This is one of the most popular videos on youtube, and its been played in boardrooms from Sony to Ford. Think about it.

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By: david bowen https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2009/02/clear-eyes/#comment-30726 Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:17:40 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1496#comment-30726 wot e sayed.

a truly html effort from joe there…

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By: david bowen https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2009/02/clear-eyes/#comment-30725 Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:16:59 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1496#comment-30725 wot e sayed

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By: Joe https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2009/02/clear-eyes/#comment-30721 Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:06:37 +0000 http://www.burnmagazine.org/?p=1496#comment-30721 i know this guy, a clever guy, too clever for his own good sometimes, for ages he used to broadcast this single question like a broken record. i don’t know if he thought it up, but he sure thought it was important, here it is:

Why do you photograph?

it seems like such an innocent question, but if it looks innocent to you and you can’t answer it easily without sarcasm and without submitting a novel, well you likely don’t know that answer yet and it’s probably the most important question for you to explore if you want to truly reconcile doing something you love doing with the fruits of your effort.

it took me ages to understand that question well enough to begin the process of answering it, and later, with that answer, start aligning my photographic actions with that answer. i can surely say that photography is now my bliss now that i understand better why i photograph.

Jim Powers sometimes when i read what you write i wonder if you think everyone’s answer to this question is the same as yours and if it’s not the same as yours then it should be everyone’s aspiration. So my question to you is a different:

Why do you think everyone has the same reason to photograph as yourself?

i don’t think your questions or comments are ever wrong Jim, just not right for everything and everyone you paste them to; and possibly explains why the question are not always welcomed with the same degree of wisdom and entitlement with which you deliver them.

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