Any chance of running workshops in South Africa, David?

Now, as a photo student I am rediscovering what I felt from seeing that photograph many years ago. No matter how perfect the lighting is or the other technicalities… if I don’t see or feel what that photo sparked in me a long time ago… then it isn’t satisfying for me, and thus, a disappointment. I don’t necessarily mean this in a depressing way, but more so in a motivational way.

About a year ago, I was at a library book sale and I found a copy of the National Geographic that had the follow up story to the Afgan girl’s photo. Immediately I snatched it up. I loved that Steve McCurry did a follow-up and found the girl. My heart broke for her and her struggle, however I held McCurry’s work in a greater esteem for going back to find her.

After seeing the comments Panos made here yesterday, especially those knocking photographers who go off to India to copy Steve McCurry, I opened my copy of South Southeast, the book that first introduced me to Steve.

That book was published in 2000, AFTER my fifth annual trip to India. I discovered Steve thru my visits to India, not vice versa. I also rediscovered my love for photography thru spending time in India, not vice versa.

I am writing this not to argue with Panos but to show how easy it is for all of us to jump to conclusions and make judgements, usually incorrect ones about each other, photography, life. What is more difficult to do is to quietly listen and keep an open mind.

We have come together here from different backgrounds, from different parts of the world, with different interests and ways of expressing ourselves. I know in my heart that the intention for burn is that all of us add our small spark to this flame and make it burn brighter, not to try to extinguish each other!

Let peace prevail on burn.
Best wishes to all.

looks of contempt and shrugs.

As for the workshops, I still don’t know your prices, but if I could afford it, I’d vote for a whole week. And I’d pray for a supprise visit by Mr. McCurry and/or Mr. Allard. But that might be pressing my luck… I look forward to hearing from you!

i hear what you are saying about being finished.. and gathering respected opinions..
making love – does it ever finish? hmm..

okay.. onward .. trying to not feel overwhelmed with neg files.. i think it relates to the length of the project.. smaller projects and weekend commissions i have no trouble with.. i think it´s maby a case of the longer the project, the more it has to be a corker..

tusen takk.
david

actually i’m not a big fan of steve mccurry’s work. i know one picture of his (the obvious one), and well, now i guess i know a couple more thanks to this article.

i am however interested in reading about other photographers working practise, their lives, and methodology.

might i suggest that you try to take on some of these lessons yourself?

if you want to see my insights and contributions to photographic dialogue then i have a blog, although i’m not sure its worth my time pointing it out to you.

again, i think you would do well to lay of the smack before writing posts in the future. its embarassing.

idiot.

Je ne peux pas attendre de vous rencontrer aussi…
:-)

Thank you very much for your words of encouragement, yes, I would like very much having your opinion on my photos, my text and my title. I have 2 dandruff to developed, that I am going to begin today, I send you all this week…

All,

My father is going to be again operated for a prosthesis of hip, but we are in no way worried… I think of working a long time on my parents….

Panos,

je vais enfin vous rencontrer!!!

all the best, audrey

i must have mangled my words as bad as W or something!!! funny, i had been watching these absolutely hilarious videos of Bush speeches….did it rub off on me??

of course, you are a finisher…..and Bones was done long ago…it will be one of the next two or three published….

Patricia and Panos were in some kind of special category in my mind because i totally mentored them online…..they both went from zero to their final essay based on their own energies and coaching from right here…..your explanation of what i was trying to say is way better than my own……

many thanks…..

cheers, david

By the way, I am SO looking forward to seeing your “Lord of the Rings” essay! It’s one of my favorites…

Patricia

We all want the best for BURN and should protect this little jewel that is being developed with passion by David. I certainly wish for all us to stay kind and constructive in our comments but I also wish for us to remain spontaneous and have fun… I tell you, I love BURN as it is a lot more about the work now, showing photographs and dicussing essays but I do somtimes miss a bit the “family” feel that we had on Road Trips, the informal tchat just discussing life, what we are up to… I do hope that we can develop this more here on BURN as well over time while still producing and showing great work… The more “formal” look of the magazine should not force us to stay formal in our discussions. A bit of “controlled” craziness is refreshing sometimes without having the family becoming toally disfunctional…. I have to say that there are many voices from the “past” that I no longer read as often and that I miss personally. I was wondering where Panos had been lately (certainly came back and was noticed :)(:):):):) I do miss reading Erica and few others who I hope are not intimidated by the new format… So I vote for a world class irreverent family magazine!!!!!

Take care,

Eric

No need to apologize really…. I was smiling when writing this :):):) and again, there is absolutely no rush at all… With all the trouble Anton and I had on transfering the multimedia piece, I was not sure if you ended up getting anything at all…. I am glad you have the essay even if I am unsure if the MM got to you or not… I have done a last try with Anton and I have transfered a new flash file couple of days ago….If it did work, you may want to check it out as I have added some additional photographs that I have taken last week-end and that I quite like…anyway, this thing is not over…. I am enjoying my little journey here for as long as I can, unsure as to where this will lead me. Just this week-end, I was fortunate to spend an afternoon together with Tim Austin, a former world champion (defended his title 10 times), also medalist in Barcelona about to turn fourty… Really nice person, very humble…talked at length about his life, his broken dreams, the difficulty of dealing with the “Ups” when you are at the top and when you were only ever used to deal with the “downs”…. next week-end, I am actually going to follow Riccardo Williams Jr (silver medalist Sydney) who I have also followed and who is having a big fight on Saturday… I should be able to follow him behind the scenes, preparing this week for the fight and in the locker before THE bout…. You see, I am still busy with this topic. As they say, it ain’t over until it is over…. I certainly do not want to regret afterwards not having made the most of the time I have got left…..

Cheers,

Eric

i just read all the comments from last night…and i dont know, to me, they were very funny….maybe because I know Panos personally, but I didnt find them offensive, just the normal Panos late-night rant :))…i mean, BURN IS GREAT and because of the WORK and the WRITING…and i think a magazine that creates incendiary shit is also good…i mean, none of us are saints….except Herve ;))))))))))

and when David talked about Panos and Patricia being the only finishers, I did not take that about me either, cause I finished, and I think David was simply illustrating/calling attention to the fact that A LOT of photographers promised work from the ‘Assignment’ this summer and most didnt finish, or start, or got stuck…nothing personal in that, but part of the game is to know when to complete, for now, something…people count on people…so, i think David used Panos and Patricia as being 2 examples that worked with David on-line to finish projects (thought finish isnt the right word) for burn….Bones was done long before, and i’ve grown sick of it, really ;)), but i dont care if it gets shown in 1 week or 3 months, whatever…the point is that the magazine is alive because of the work and the commitment to complete stuff…we’re building a spot that, i believe, in 6 months, will kill folk…and i think David was just gently reminding folk that a magazine is only as good as the content and voices provided :)))

so, get the killer shit out there to be seen :)))

hugs
running to bed
b

so, eric, i dont think david is at all referring to you, but on the nature of this business for people to speak more than they act. I didnt take anything personally what david wrote;)))

otherwise, i’d had been outta here long ago ;)))….

we’re all in this together to build a better mansion :))

hugs
bob