some of you might be interested in what is going on right now in my loft…the assembled below are gathered at my space to help make some decisions on the future of our forum…we are buzzing buzzing on the potential of an online magazine..so many good ideas (and a few bad ideas) are zipping around the room…
we are interested right now in any input you may have….very soon we will be working on all the titles you so kindly suggested….and i think we have a nice clean design that will set up selected essays in the most special way and will also include a “behind the scenes” or “the making of” element that so many will find invaluable…
you will now have about four or five hours to make comments…to me, or to anyone you see below….we should be able to have at least a pretty decent preliminary site within a week or two..or maybe sooner..
i cannot believe that Anton Kusters flew here from Belgium, Tom Hyde from Seattle, Eric Espinosa from Cincinnati …i also cannot believe we stayed up ’til 4am for a pre-meeting meeting….and this was air mattress/sleeping bag central around here last night…
please ask us some questions..give us your thoughts….we will respond immediately…..
Erica McDonald, Andrew Sullivan, Chris Bickford, Tom Hyde, Anton Kusters, Eric Espinosa and on screen via webcam, David McGowan
the “burn” double meaning kind of went over my head – anyone want to fill me in?
Have some cold beers ;-)
I’m off to a poetry reading that has been condemned by Christians. Last time there was even mounted police to try to deter them.
dmcg: you’re not serious about that question are you?
Ciao!!!!!
Now working on my new site that means editing the last 6 years of work… in the last 15 days.
But… I’m with you. Have a wonderful (or wonderfun) and fruitful day… and night
Also if you have questions for all of us…. ;)
well now that you mention it I was probably to stoned to figure it out…. heh heh, heh heh
would burn also imply high contrast darkened imagery….would you settle on the title of burn, finally? but seriously i don’t know how inclined i am towards the title of burn…its too directorial a name…its filmy…thing is, any word you use would be loaded…hopefully it shall still leave some room for thoughts to develop, be it any kind…like Life was….photographs of the kind most of you are into …involves just that, Life…burn is a good edgy word, but kind of competitive…anyways, by saying all this i do not mean to downplay enthusiasm that this word built up…. its just my point of view and how i feel it creates a particular way of thought..
…Again…
*** ZONE ***
3 meanings/references…
Zone System
In The “Zone”
End Zone~Reaching goals
anyway…thought i would post it here as well…
** Z O N E **
M a g a z i n e
~ Zonemagazine.net is available
oh and btw BICKFORD…i was going to call you to meet me at chilli’s tonite but i guess you’re out of town! lets get up when you’re back…
DAH – i’m so excited about all of this…and will have the space to think on it come january…talk when you’re here…scooter says soon?
how about ‘iris’? has it been suggested before or is it too directorial again..?
Oh boy! What the hell did I miss?
Hi all… that photo makes me feel like I’m back in Charlottesville! Hi Eric, Anton, David McG! Tom Hyde, come to DC and I’ll buy you a beer or two. In fact, bring the others with you!
Cheers.
David,
Did you get my email question about someone to code the blog to your design?
AKAKY: But…
AKAKY IRL: No.
AKAKY: But Anton flew all the way in from Brussells, dammit!
AKAKY IRL: It’s not like he swam, dude. He sat in a plane for eight hours inhaling enough rhinoviruses to start his own pandemic and wondering why the airlines can’t afford stale peanuts anymore. It’s not like he ran the Boston Marathon in high heels. That would have been impressive. It’d be hard on his calves, though.
AKAKY: My life sucks.
AKAKY IRL: Tell me about it.
AKAKY:
Joni, were the mounted cops there to deter the poets or the Christians? From what little of it I read, I’d say using mounted cops to suppress modern poetry is altogether a good thing. There’s nothing like a good whiff of tear gas and having your skull cracked with a truncheon to make your average modern poet appreciate iambic pentameter and the judicious use of heroic couplets, which always sounded like the title of a porno flick to me, but then I dont get around much.
LES…
we sent you a signed archival print as per promised by way of Fed Ex…when we sent out all the prizes we checked and according to Fed Ex records everything we sent was received at the other end..someone at your address signed for this package…
this is the second time i have tried to communicate with you…
i think the problem is that you have never contacted us directly and are for some reason trying to communicate with me through another blogger… ????????
if you contact me directly, or simply leave your address here, we will send you another print..but, as i have said at least twice here, i sure would like to know what happened to the original print….you can really help us to track this by calling me personally 202 413-1137…
this is a valuable signed print…it is in both of our best interests for you to please please write to me here…i really love your self portrait photograph and i really want you to have the print….
please help us…
many thanks, david
in the spirit of this exercise: ‘in real time’.
David, Bob, Joni, Anton, Patricia, Panos and rest my dear friends.
I agree with Eugene Richards that photographers should buy each others books (or prints). I am sure if not now many of you will have own books and for sure I will try buy all of this special treasures. You know I am always very proud if any of you have small or big success. I am also a big fan of works so many of you. I am proud of you David, because you are one big succes and I am sure your magazine will be big stuff in our photography world.
Now, firstly I will try get Kyunghee Lee’s book, and I will wait for Anton’s.
I have to buy “cuba” and “living proof” soon. I like books and I want a hundreds!!! Big masters and many of people I admire (including Eugene :).
ehhhh
I must run.
hugs for all
ps. Anton, I just get your email, No problem, I understand and agree, famili first! :)
How’s about, “project”?
We spend most of our time working on projects.
And then projecting our projects.
Am I projecting?
xjp.
Title: Kibbutz
Just a thought. Good luck. Keep it simple.
hey michelle, we’re overdue for a hang…be back midweek next week. How’s the weather down there?
Yes, “Behind the scenes” and “The making of” details will help many. Good photo; thanks for your efforts. Enjoy!
if you have some time, have a look at this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/07/magazine/07wwln-medium-t.html?_r=2&ref=magazine
an inspiring quote from the article: “The third argument says we have to change. We have to develop content that metamorphoses in sync with new ways of experiencing it, disseminating it and monetizing it. This argument concedes that it’s not possible to translate or extend traditional analog content like news reports and soap operas into pixels without fundamentally changing them. So we have to invent new forms.”
enjoy your meeting, keep it simple and… be bold! ;)
How ’bout SNOWBALL, cause that’s what these things tend to do!
Kidding.
My only “tech” suggestion is to NOT choose any domain with a .net extension. People will always type in a .com over anything else. Looks more legit too.
Names… I’m sure you guys already know what your gonna call it but here’s a few more to mull over.
PRIME -It has obvious tie-ins. Plus http://www.primemag.com is available.. just checked.
BE THERE -I mentioned this one in an earlier post… didn’t stick so here it is again!!
Good Luck Guys
I’d love to help, if you need. (10 years graphic design exp.) But it looks like their are more than a few cooks in that kitchen.
Keep me in though, it would be my pleasure
Cheers
You can set up your domain to forward the inaccurate address to the correct one. For example, if you type .com or .org instead of .net you would be directed accordingly. I know there can be difficulties with this but it can be done. There may be costs involved though.
Good luck. Looking forward to reading minutes.
GIST perhaps?
This might be daft, it is daft, but FOUR CORNERS?
SUBJECT – person or thing that is being discussed, described, or dealt with
STILLS
Ahhh bollox. Bed time.
PDN says it’s going to be ‘Live’… ( http://www.PDNPulse.com/2008/12/david-allen-harvey-and-friends-build-a-magazine-live.html )
Thought that’s a weird name, too close to ‘Life Magazine’…
Cheers
wish I was there…still voting for Burn as #1 and Emerge as #2…actually Stills is sort of interesting as well but have the feeling that imagery wont be still, exclusively, for long…but maybe…
great photo…looking forward to the update
~ chris h
Get rid of Bickford, he’s bad news
** B U R N … Is hot and a great name…Several good names to choose from and whichever it is, the whole project will be a success!!!
I thought of a twist on zone and a better reference to photography & The Zone System…It is also what all photographers have in common…Our camera meters are calibrated to:
** Z O N E * F I V E ** ~ / ~ ** Z O N E 5 **
ZoneFive.com & ZoneFiveMagazine.com are available at the moment…
Hey, you folks have been sending off some kind of crazy vibes! Last night I couldn’t sleep worth diddley-squat. I swear it was like I was there with you in David’s loft, right in the middle of it all! I think I finally dropped off around 4 a.m., just when you guys were hitting the air mattresses. And, of course, it was a full moon night!!!
I just got home from an entire afternoon spent at the van repair shop. Fun. So I’m probably too late to add anything in live time. My guess is the magazine is already named by now, and I’m sure whatever you came up with will SING.
Just sending love & good creative, pragmatic, idealistic energy your way. Sure hope you go to bed before 4 a.m. tonight! That would give DAH one full hour’s sleep before he heads upstate for tomorrow’s ad shoot.
HUGE THANKS to you all for making the trip and bringing your best to the table. You are representing 1000s of us across the globe, and I couldn’t think of a better group to do it. Let us know when we can do our part…
hugs
Patricia
watching ‘waking life’… again…
“The trick is to combine your waking rational abilities with the infinite possibilities of your dreams. Because, if you can do that, you can do anything”
waking life is a good name..
hi all.. hope the meeting is / was good..
..and erica.. and patricia..
much love.. thanks for your mention on last topic..
tor is born out of love.. i wish we all were :o)
hugs
x
WOW – this is really happening. SO exciting! Thank you to those who are there and speaking for all of us.
I like Burn and Emerge!
Anybody there still?
HEY TOM HYDE!
Nice to see a pic of you, you may not be the original ‘Quiet American’ but you are the best!
I am definitely going to try and be ‘Over There’ in the nearish kind of future, maybe Look3 so plan on a few beers OK!
LIL BRO ANTON
Well it seems you have got to ‘Big Bro’ Status! Congrats on ‘Sugar’
Always knew you had it going on!
ALL
I am still going for EVOLVER, reasons already stated and I just like the sound of it…
Though RAW is my second favorite…
Yo Cary, why don’t you come over here and say that to my face…
:)
ok, just got off the phone with Captain Harvey there……
FULL STEAM AHEAD!!!!…..:)))))
YO, SISTER LISA, i resent that ;)))))))))))))))))))))…..lots of good americans around here ;)))))
running
B
Sounds like a great and productive gathering, possibly even historical. Has someone already said,”burn baby burn?” Well…
DAH-Just sent you an email. I suggest you open it while everyone is there.
ALL: I’m going to start discussing my veteran’s project in my blog, as the project progresses-kind of a step by step. Should be boring but will let everyone know that the tediousness of getting something going is not a singular event.
Ciao,
Michael
Based on today’s meeting (8 hour teleconference for me!) with 99% certainty I’d say it’s BURN MAGAZINE.
Not sure if David saw my email or post earlier… does he have a person to code the blog to whatever design he wants?
Hey Pete,
I’m pretty sure Anton is handling that.
David et al.
I just got in and it’s somewhat premature but from what I can understand from sporadic messages(leaks?) from Bob and DavidM – seems you guys had done the hardest part???
Is it time to congratulate on the monumental step?
give us a line. please. :-)
cheers,
haik
MARCIN,
Buy my books!
ALL,
My vote is still for Burn. Please don’t take it so literally.
Speaking of titles, met today with a friend of mine who is going to help me edit my next book. It is going to be a book of portraits (loosely), essentially a culling of the files from the the last 30 years. Will be interesting to see if it flies. My working title for it was originally Negative Creep, but we both axed that (at least for now). Too much grunge connotation.
Anyway, trying to pull another book together from the archives will be a way to get some work done during the first year or so of the new baby. My designer friend is excited about it. He wasn’t so excited when I told him about the realities of money in regard to fine art photo book publishing. He just got spoiled designing a book of photos about a big name band (REM) where he actually got paid a real sum. Uh uh brother, this is for the portfolio (though I will slip him some dosh when I can). Anyway, something to think about….
TOM,
Not sure if I ever told you how good your car wash pics were. Stop by next time you’re in Seattle.
Best,
Charles
Cool, I knew he was designing it, wasn’t sure if he was programming it.
ALL, sorry to be a pain, but I just wrote a new post and discovered how strongly I feel about this new project I’m starting on Vietnam Vets. Old Subject, but still relevant. Please look. This is at the very beginning stages.
DAVID: In addition to another project I’ve been working on (Skylight of Man), I would like you to consider using this brand new project as a serial, from inception to completion.
OK All, back to the Burn celebration.
For me, back to work.
Ciao
Michael
sorry, my links didnt work…
so ok, some tunes…
It would be cool if the new site had a system where unknown musicians could submit mp3s of their own music to the site. Photographers could then go through the music selection and choose a song/songs to accompany their slide shows if they would like. Again, just trying to think about combining my two passions of photography and music. Best regards, Dan
PETE…
that person would be Anton….
JOHN VINK…
hmmmm, pretty sloppy reporting particularly since “Live” was never even discussed by anyone ever…..we have no name officially yet, but most likely will be “BURN”..
cheers, david
David,
A voice from the past. I check your site once in a while and this project seems very interesting. I get much of my news and pictures online.
We don’t see your mom very often… maybe in passing at City Market.
Good luck with this project!
Dean
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=pfWIKf0IfgA