a quick reading of comments under our previous post and you will note that our boys Marcin (with his wife Alex) and Herve are now in Pattaya, Thailand…a quick review of Herve's picture diary tells us they are having a good time ….i have re-posted Herve's photo links here for easier review….
several years ago i photographed a short essay on child abuse in Thailand, and most specifically shot in Pattaya…one of Herve's pictures appears to have been shot in EXACTLY the same location as one of mine above…small clues will reveal….
match the shot of Herve's with the shot of mine…..yes, of course, one of my old camera bags is the prize for the CORRECT ANSWER ….
nope, that is not the end of my little contest….a signed copy of "Living Proof" goes to the reader who now asks the CORRECT QUESTION…
I’m really pissed of right now…
I just got out of jail!!!
I’m not gonna say more at this point…
My court date 12/21/08
Reason of arrest..
“Interfering with the Fire Department”
I shot one photo although I had
No permission…
They kept me in jail about 5 hours…
They kept my sdcard ..
Wendy was there (witness)
Tony photographed my arrest on his iPhone…!
also…. DAH was there…
Noone could help…
BAIL:???
$10.000…
Anyways I’m OUT… IM FREE
( but. , again … Court date… ??? In a month !!
Damn, I’m exhausted
Hey David,
just some new work for you to maybe have a look.
I changed the name of HSH to “Little Pieces of Us”
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3283/3042900247_4806fb9be7_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3193/3042900245_41ed1696fc_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3196/3038056366_ed98550eb0_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3242/3029024319_bdee50cb5a_o.jpg
RAFAL,
For what it’s worth, I very much like your first one and your last… The second one may look a bit too much “constructed” for me… You want to make sure you keep the spontaneous feel of your photographs that captures “unplanned moments” of your life….
I like the title…
Cheers,
Eric
PANOS,
How strange!!! Seems incredible really! Glad you are out but imagine that this must have been frustrating…. Wonder what they must have been thinking in this fire department… Hope you and DAH do not get into too much trouble…
Cheers,
Eric
Panos
I see the trouble it is your second name.
You definitely have not boring life :)
Take care my friend.
anon (anton?)
thanks for the heads-up!
i sent them an email.
it potentially could be a good
springboard toward publishing a
book of my street family.
thanks.. :)
…
panos -
oh nooo!
but you know what?
it’s all an adventure, right?
you’ll never run out of stories
to tell your kids/grandkids.
you live life FULL-ON, dear.
you’ll never regret that.
big MWAH! to you and DAH.
k.
no, not anton — just anon, a lonnnnng time blog reader, full time professional photographer who prefers to fly under the radar in blog-land.
keep us posted if anything happens.
don’t know if eric e noted that post or ignored it as spam since there is no name attached.
in any case, good luck.
anon–
thanks again for ‘having our backs’.
what kind of work do you do?
and where?
if i can ask..
k.
Hey Marcin, good stuff, you got the feel of the place. But it’s weird, your post is missing from the page now, and the previous page does not have “next” at the bottom….
Place keeps buzzing here, just today long boat competitions and buffalo races (which I missed, damned!)… ‘wonder if that was right to go to Cambodia now…
PS: Panos, I hope this is a joke from one your Venice friends snatching your iphone. I have a feeling, if not, that there is a bit more to it than just taking one shot without permission. And where would you find the 10 000? David?
Man, you need to come here and fast. Thailand means land of the free. Free, like not in jail… At least!
Oh yes, I forgot to add a shot, no post during my asian journey without photo(s). Not a great one, but the kids were having a lot of fun…:
http://www.pbase.com/uc/image/106215968/original
Marcin,
Oh man I’ve always wanted to shoot Muay Thai. My wife and I almost went to one match but it was really expensive ($50 a ticket!) so we passed. All very shady and we couldn’t tell if we we’re getting ripped off or not. next time I’ll go with someone in the know. Looking forward to seeing your films. I love Thailand and always have a good time there though Vietnam is my true love.
Take care,
C
PANOS,
My god man! You don’t waste anytime do you!?
When you wake up and remove the shackles (from your wrists, ankles, and your brain – I hope you had a drink or smoke or two after the ordeal) be sure to return my email.
Take care,
Charles
http://www.charlespeterson.net/istanbul_08
KATIA,
if you ever want some help editing your wonderful photos let me know. The invite to come by the studio still stands. Would love to lend you an extra set of eyes for an hour or two. I’m just starting to edit another book of my own work so I’m in the groove at the moment.
Take care,
Charles
Hey Panos! Sorry to hear about the incident! Today, it was you! It can be anybody else of us photographers on the next day! I quite understand it! Hope everything settles out well in the end!
My best wishes….
HERVE/ ALL..
I know what U saying..
That I must have done something
little “extra” wrong .. Right?
Like crossing a yellow taped something,
or something , right???
Well..
I will let DAH explain later..
He is super busy right now..
But trust me.. This time…
This particular time I didn’t DO ANYTHING WRONG..
I DID NOT CROSS A LINE…
All, again
I might be crazy… But
Thank god I have a witness ..
DAVID ALAN HARVEY..
Ask him…
( thank god David was there ..
He defended me, heavily..
THANK U DAVID FOR THAT..
They almost arrested him too…
I will never forget the back seat
of that cop car.. The smell.. Suffocation
.. The heat.. The sweat.. The agony..
The lies.. The harrasment..
Even laughter and mockery..
Me begging for my leica with real
Tears in my eyes..
I’m not tough.. I realized this last night..
I’m fragile..
Our ART IS SO FRAGILE..
Nobody cares about us
I can say more.. I have a court date..
SUBHRAJIT,
Thank U..
This is the story.. In brief..
Me , David, Wendy ( filmaker) and
many more friends…
Sitting in the cafe.. The usual
photo talk , blah blah..
All of a sudden , sirens..
No police, only fire trucks and an
ambulance…
Immediately I grab the leica and
run towards the lights.. As always..
THIS IS MY JOB… Ok???
… A pit bull bit a woman..
Not that I knew.. I was just trying to
see what’s up.. I wasn’t even shooting..
Eventually I see the woman …
strapped in the ambulance bed..
Nothing unusual and nothing to
photograph really…
You see my leica is not autofocus..
All I did ( like always ).. I brought
the camera to my eye level to prefocus…
1.4 voichtlander , not easy to focus in the dark..
I didn’t shoot coz there was nothing really
to shoot.. Honestly..
NEXT THING I KNOW…
I GOT GRABBED BY THE LEICA STRAP
FROM THEIR COMMANDER..
I couldn’t breath.. He was choking me..
in front of 1000 people…
My friend B, was with me.. She runs
to David..
DAH was there…
He took it personal.. He did
EVERYTHING HE COULD DO..
EVERYTHING TO DEFEND ME…
He explained, begged…
That was it… He was ready to join me..
Not wise…
They gave my iPhone and wallet to B..
When they let me go… 6 hours later..
I couldn’t even make a collect call,
I couldn’t remember ANYONES NUMBER..
So…
I had to walk for two hours non stop
from the centinela jail all the way to
the beach..ALL THE WAY TO VENICE…
With my leica ( NO SD CARD )…
All I had in my pocket is my arrest papers
and a court date…
Welcome to my photohellVeniceworld…
(ps: CHARLES, I got your email..
Thank U.. I will respond soonest…)
PANOS, DAH…
All things considered I won’t be driving up to see you tonight. Three hours (round trip) from San Diego is no problem but it sounds like you guys already have a LOT going on there. Have fun!
Panos that really is a bummer about the arrest. You’ve got to get this dismissed.
charles–
you’re in town? for some reason i thought
you were elsewhere now. moved abroad even.
i have most of december free after the first week.
let’s talk more then, ok?
and thank you, :)
DAH–
you’re such a good guy..
and what a True friend.
panos is really lucky. ;)
love ya,
k.
Collection 11 is posted:
http://www.humanfiles.com/photofriday/photofriday_11.htm
Jesus Christ. I’m really sorry to hear that Panos. They have no right to do that. Not sure what’s going on in this country sometimes…. (isn’t that an understatement!)
KATIA,
I’m around. Baby coming in Feb so dec is best.
Take care,
Charles
PANOS. Man that is some serious bullshit! I´m shocked! It has already been said, but they have NO right. From my little time at newspapers I know if you are in a public space, you did not cross the tape and were not getting in their way you have done nothing wrong. It is not illegal to take photographs of firemen or ambulances!!?? Not sure about the card, but i´m pretty sure they can´t take it from you either!
Obviously you will have to go to court, but I don´t know what they can hang on you!!?
If you want to take it to them get in touch with the NPPA they know all the in´s and out´s of this stuff. This kind of thing happens far too often. How many of the other folks there had their cell phones out snapping away I wonder!?
Good luck!! James
PANOS:
http://www.krages.com/ThePhotographersRight.pdf
“law enforcement officers
may object to photography but
most understand that people have the
right to take photographs and do not
interfere with photographers. They do
have the right to keep you away from
areas where you may impede their
activities or endanger safety. However,
they do not have the legal right
to prohibit you from taking photographs
from other locations.”
J
ERIC,
That dog bit more than 6 people..
The last 4 months only..
The CITY is about to get sued..
They had numerous complaints but
never removed that dangerous dog
from the Venice area..
THE CITY IS ABOUT TO GET SUED..
I have ( had ) the evidence..
I got caught in the mix..
That’s all..
Someone has to get punished..
It just happened to be me..
End of story…
( literally I might need some help here..;-). )
Hey Panos
That’s why I said trouble it is you second name. You have to do nothing wrong and you have trouble anyway. Karma? :)
We are with you. Have a bright thoughts.
peace and freedom for Panos
Panos! Really incredible situation and inexplicable behaviour! It has no doubt been a nightmarish experience for you! All we can do right now is to give you our support here, whatever it is worth. I sincerely hope this will settled amicably very soon.
However, this really opens up a new topic (and what an important topic!) of ‘what to do’ and ‘what not to do’ for photographers. In your case, it was some official guys. I am also really pissed of by some busybodies who come and ask why I am shooting, as if the world belongs to him. I shoot in India and here generally a smiling face or a joke or something generally does the trick. But there are situations where one cannot keep his cool, even with the greatest effort on his part, like where somebody persistently disturbing you while you are shooting, just because this busybody doesn’t have anything better to do or he is trying to get over his frustration over the photographer. I have seen so many of these losers who try to get officious whenever they see somebody shooting. There are many trying situations that photographers have to face, for no fault of their own. One cannot discuss the so-called “photographer’s rights” with these guys because they are simply not ready to listen to anything. So one has to invent things to get rid of these guys. Sometimes I succeed, sometimes I fail. But photographers must not lose their cool, whatever be the provocation, that’s for certain. Because the moment the photographer loses his cool, the busybody gets the fuel to interfere further. I know this has not been the case with you. But we need to discuss this here. We need to know the views of different photographers about how they cope with these adverse conditions.
Anyway, best of luck mate…I am sure you shall conquer at the end
ALL
we are in the class…
Right now. Editing students..
As always intense and rewarding…
Soonest…
Student SLIDESHOW,
ready to start…
In a few moments..
VENICE EDIT… In Public next…
In the lobby of the Cadillac hotel..
On the pool table..
Jim Morrison
Performs 18 feet away..
Couldn’t get any better than that…
or maybe..
ps: I met a cool photog today..
His name: HAIK…
He gave his sandwich…
Couldn’t get any better than that..
Meeting a great photog and
a generous soul too…
to be continued…
Panos,
Here in The Netherlands photographers are member of a union for freelance photographers and journalists. They are the ones to assist in cases like police brutality. Isn’t there something like that in the US? Good luck!
Friso
Panos:
Someday you will write a book and Hunter S Thompson will rise from the grave to edit & promote it for you.
Good luck getting your card back, he must’ve been a heckuva detective to FIND the SD card in an M8!!
You have card ressurection software right? You never know what you might find.
Neil
hmmmm… I feel like survived the global catastrophe. There was some armageddon I have not noticed?
ok. I will post some pictires from my trip during processing on my news site if someone is curious.
http://marcinluczkowski.com/news/
peace (for survivors)
Siem Reap (Cambodia)
Arrived yesterday, been attending the Angkor festival of photography, and well, David, Antoine d’ Agata is here, though I have yet to meet him. I understand best chance is to err around the red llights district before dawn.
I met also 2 photographers whom I respect a lot, Munem Wasif and Sohrab, which rafal will remember from the trekearth days. Munem did some wonderful work with myanmar refugees in bangladesh (refugee in Bangladesh!?!? That has to say a lot about the dismal state of affairs in mafia-junta ruled Burma). Both are on lightstalkers I think.
There is a party related to the festival at this minute. So, there I go. Siem Reap is the city from where one visits the Angkor temples. It had changed ona grand scale since I came here the first time when there was hardly any tarmac on the roads. Now, it has become a high point of international tourism, so the food is great, and there are as many waterring holes as temples. More, actually.
So here, we are, this shot was taken on “pub” street, this morning:
http://www.pbase.com/image/106315368
PS: best wishes to Panos. Marcin, a few of you too, you wish you were here!
HERVE.
Munem won a big award at Perpignan. He’s very “hot” right now.
Please tell him I love his work :))
HERVE.
Gary Knight is usually around for the Angkor festival… as are some of the others from VII. It should be a great time for you.
CATHY…
what happened to you??? i was expecting you all weekend and had permission for you to sit in on our programs…anyway, maybe you left comment that i did not see and something may have come up for you….
anyway, sorry we missed…..
ALL..
what Panos neglected to mention was that when i walked up to the police officers in L.A. who had Panos handcuffed, was that they told me i would too be under arrest too if i even said one more word…and all i did was to politely ask “what is the problem??” i just wanted to find out why Panos was under arrest…i actually would have “pushed it” further if i had not needed to be in class…i would have been willing to be arrested just to see what in hell they would charge me with…i know some of you may think Panos is a bit of a wild man , but in this case in particular, he was quiet , polite, and not interfering with anything…i suppose the police are particularly sensitive in the Venice Beach area where there is a lot of crime..every night i have been here , there has been some kind of violent incident..
i will try to get a post out this afternoon…you all know by now that when i am with students, i am not with you…but now, i am all yours!!!..i was intensely busy all morning editing from Panos’ 850 small prints!!! in the next few weeks i will be doing serious edits for Eric, Patricia, Rafal, Audrey, Erica, Bob, James, Cristina,Marcin, David M., and some others i probably forgot just now…whoever you are , please forgive me and , yes remind me!!
cheers, david
ALL,
The VENICE EDIT
EXPERIENCE.. Was UNBELIEVABLE…
I don’t know where to start…
We filled up the whole hotel
Lounge with almost 850 prints..
Three hours later we were down to
100….
Two hours later we were down to 70…
An hour later 60…
And I still haven’t edited all that last
crazy week stuff…
Next is TEXT EDITING.. I need the right
Text..
Then is layout.. I don’t even know..
We will see.. What’s next is next..
Either way.. We did good…
Looking good!!!!!!!!
Love ya all..
Peace
ps: oh… DAH is typing as we speak on his
laptop right next to me…
New post… With two amazing photos..
Hi everyone – I am Haik-the-sandwich-sharing-guy. Was just a sandwich, Panos, just a sandwich – get over it. but thanks for the other kind words.
Everyone – I think Panos can use our support. We could possibly get a letter of some sort to the court. Of course DAH and friends that were present are the most valuable as witnesses. What happened is just ridiculous, I am sure the fireman was having a bad hair day under the helmet. What he did is a citizen’s arrest which is applicable for cases of felony. Here is what I have found for CA:
“A private person may arrest another: 1. For a public offense committed or attempted in his presence. 2. When the person arrested has committed a felony, although not in his presence. 3. When a felony has been in fact committed, and he has reasonable cause for believing the person arrested to have committed it. (C.P.C. 837).”
Panos, man – you might have something in here. Follow up on it. I am sure you have nothing to worry about mainly because your initial arrest have not been lawful for as much as my non-lawyer mind and a little research show. Basically, no felony – no arrest. Check on that one.
HAIK..
I’m so glad that I met U..
You are a great person..
and your photographs were one of
the best at the students slideshow..
Thank U for the support …
I will send U a personal email..
but as you know before the court
date, I don’t wanna get any unnecessary
Attention… regarding this case..
All I wanna be is “out” of this …
and I don’t wanna threaten anyone either..
ALL,
keep shooting ..
… And go check… New DAH
POST… Fresh, fresh, fresh…
In a few minutes …
Haik..:-)
Thanks again…
Panos -
thank you for the kind words and encouragement – I really appreciate it.
Herve
Enjoy the time in Cambodia. I am in my cold grey sad country with depression huge as mount everest, so I wish be there with you as well.
:)
David, regarding the misrepresentation of oneself as a Magnum photographer, I’ve come across 2 cases in Switzerland where the photographers seem to be Magnum members although they may only have been correspondents or similar.
“1965 First assignment from Magnum Photos in Paris, for Paris Match, The Observer about President Sukarno of Indonesia. After this assignment, he was with Magnum for over 40 years as well as continuing press work for most important magazines and producing his own projects at the same time.”
http://www.fred-mayer.eu/html/copyright.cfm
“Venzago spent years with the Magnum Agency”
http://www.venzago.com/en/02_biography.php