Comments on: one of a kind…. https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/04/one-of-a-kind/ burn is an online feature for emerging photographers worldwide. burn is curated by magnum photographer david alan harvey. Sat, 18 Jun 2016 08:34:16 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2.4 By: Eloisa Nisimura https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/04/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12478 Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:08:13 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/04/28/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12478 Happy Birthday David!!!!! Love ya’ Have a great day!

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By: wrobertangell https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/04/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12479 Wed, 07 May 2008 10:16:13 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/04/28/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12479 Herve,
that was an interesting point that got over looked, “the icy trails of a comet”
sorry about that. nicely put though.

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By: JChance https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/04/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12480 Fri, 02 May 2008 20:44:27 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/04/28/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12480 HERVE, PAUL B:

Sorry, I missed you comments earlier… just wanted to say thanks!!

James

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By: JChance https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/04/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12481 Fri, 02 May 2008 00:43:06 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/04/28/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12481 BOB!

Thanks man! appreciate your kind comments! Have always enjoyed your posts here and on Lightstalkers too! Look forward to introducing the latest project to the community.

All the best brother!

James

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By: Pete Marovich https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/04/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12482 Thu, 01 May 2008 16:57:22 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/04/28/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12482 David:

I will see you at the Look3 workshop. Looking forward to your edit and comments as well as the workshop itself. Thanks for looking and taking the time to comment.

Best, Pete

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By: david alan harvey https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/04/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12483 Thu, 01 May 2008 16:46:09 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/04/28/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12483 PETE…

ok, now i understand you….it takes awhile to have a conversation here sometimes….easy to misinterpret…..in that context of meaning, i agree with you 100%..

i do hope we can meet in person at some point,because would love to edit your work with you…and i think that with just a little “tweak” your work will become more personal and stylistic without losing one iota of good journalism…

thanks for writing back…

cheers, david

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By: Herve https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/04/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12484 Thu, 01 May 2008 11:01:41 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/04/28/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12484 Well, Rafal, for Warhol, the concept was not about creation, but repetition, and a voluntary lackadaisical approach to what constitutes Art. Basically, supply answering demand, but with affect.

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By: wrobertangell https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/04/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12485 Thu, 01 May 2008 09:34:55 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/04/28/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12485 woah! fellas, Davids “good idea”, its up for all to see.

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By: Rafal Pruszynski https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/04/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12486 Thu, 01 May 2008 09:31:28 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/04/28/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12486 Does it matter? Well, does it matter that many of the great paintings may have been painted mostly by assistants rather than the “master”? Are we sure how much of the Sistine Chapen Michaelangelo painted by himself? Does it matter? I dont know. For example Warhol as I said would simply sign off on prints made by others and those would be Warhol works anyway. Still they are one of a kind because its not the craft that matters but the concept. Anyone could print but only Warhol could come up with the idea. Same for photography. In photography anyone can click the shutter but as we all know its not the shooting but the process of getting that IDEA that is difficult.

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By: wrobertangell https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/04/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12487 Thu, 01 May 2008 09:20:22 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/04/28/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12487 nice one Herve, I pick #4

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By: wrobertangell https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/04/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12488 Thu, 01 May 2008 09:17:09 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/04/28/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12488 one of a “certain” kind (of photographer), or a certain kind of image. but “one of a kind”, well I think that must be some kind of heavenly being. something not from this planet, possibly God? (whatever that is).

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By: Herve https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/04/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12489 Thu, 01 May 2008 09:14:32 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/04/28/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12489 Quite true, Rafal. Also, I forgot what was the context of Mem’s shoot, but if it’s commercial work, or a command, she may set it up differently than other more very personal work.

Perhaps we can also ask ourselves, must she absolutely be there for the “click” David speaks of, and if MEM does not show up, and an assistant makes the decisive moment call to take the picture:

1) is it a Mem picture anyway?
2) can it be as good a shot as if she was there? or
3) could you tell the difference?

last: 4) does it matter?

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By: David McGowan https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/04/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12490 Thu, 01 May 2008 09:13:17 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/04/28/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12490 Here’s a look back at the Festival of the Photograph 2007. I’m really disappointed I missed getting sound bites from Sally Mann and DAH, but overall this is what the festival feels like. Enjoy.

http://www.humanfiles.com/slideshows/look3_07/publish_to_web/look3_07.htm

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By: Rafal Pruszynski https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/04/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12491 Thu, 01 May 2008 09:10:46 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/04/28/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12491 Also I dont see how you can say Crewdson isnt one of a kind. I mean who else is doing what he is doing? It seems to me that perhaps he is more one-of-a-kind than most guys who work alone without a crew. Why? Part of it may be that its more difficult to do what Crewdson does, even if its just the logistics of it that makes it more difficult.

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By: wrobertangell https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/04/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12492 Thu, 01 May 2008 09:09:22 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/04/28/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12492 Right, thats what I was thinking about, movies, but they have ownership, rights, trademarks, shit all over them, credits etc.
But for the banquet size Prom Polaroids I bet the only one who collects accolade, $, awards, is MEMs. not sure though.
all I am trying say though is, is it possible to be one of a kind, (assuming that everyone else is the same, which is tough to swallow), when there are so many factors outside of oneself that must be given consideration in order to produce something.

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By: Rafal Pruszynski https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/04/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12493 Thu, 01 May 2008 08:48:30 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/04/28/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12493 But isnt the concept the thing? Ofcourse they couldnt do it without the crew but does that mean there is less authorship? I dont thing the crew is at all an important consideration here. Take Crewdson, who needs the crew because to shoot a photo is such a big operation with him. While not a Crewdson fan, I apprecite the fact that he is more about the concept than anything else. Only if his concepts were coming from the crew would I agree with you, but as far as I know his concepts are his concepts. This logic to me naturally extends to cinema. Would you say that a director has less authorship because he needs a crew to put his movie onto film and then onto screens?

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By: wrobertangell https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/04/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12494 Thu, 01 May 2008 08:38:08 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/04/28/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12494 Yeah Rafal,
brings up another thread, which was touched on in a roundabout sort of way, authorship. David asked if we aspire to be a one of a kind photog, but say in MEMs case, could she produce the images with out the crew. it seems like her crew is a vital component. She makes the calls etc, but with out them she is busted. Crewdson, Lachapelle, all the big production photogs rely on their crew in order to accomplish the end result.
people get paid, name goes on the product. etc etc etc

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By: Herve https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/04/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12495 Thu, 01 May 2008 08:31:12 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/04/28/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12495 Yep, rafal, that sure puts the craft back in the art, doesn’t it? And I guess MEM’s (she is far from the only one) validate my constant coupling of these 2 words when talking about photography.

Also, it has been suggested before (guess who?) but never taken up as a discussion that many great photographers may have had a golden Age period, with subsequent work leaving something to desire, or dare I say, akin to what the icy tail is to the comet it is following.

Can we find that most photographers rarely sustain interest beyond some fine choice works of theirs, and inversely how many are a glorious works in progress from beginning to last?

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By: Rafal Pruszynski https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/04/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12496 Thu, 01 May 2008 07:55:49 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/04/28/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12496 Wrobertangel,

Is it about the act of photographing (being right in the action) or about the concept?

For example how do you compare Picasso who put all of himself into his work, or van Gogh and then a guy like Warhol who wouldnt even make much of what we consider his? Often Warhol would have his assistants make his work and simply sign off on it. its a Warhol not because its made by him but because its his concept. or what about old reneisaance masters who would have armies of assistants actually doing much of the painting for them?

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By: asher https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/04/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12497 Thu, 01 May 2008 07:41:47 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/04/28/one-of-a-kind/#comment-12497 Pierre- that is indeed the full, complete version on MEM’s book online!

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