i have added a "Movies" section on my home page…i will try to have a little library of short films on photographers and by photographers soonest….i only had one in hand to start this off… it is a short produced by Natgeo…this is a 6 minute version of a one hour production on yours truly working in Brazil…
if you have not seen it, go get some popcorn and beer.. the 50mb file will be about a 5 minute download for most…if this puts you to sleep , then maybe i have done my job for the day!!
of perhaps more interest, there is new work being posted later this evening of some of your colleagues as yet unseen here under the Emerging Photographers section…both as essays and a few more singles…i think you will appreciate this new work and there is even more to come…it has taken us awhile to get all the space we need for this section..
please do not forget that some of your work, now featured here, will be exhibited in June at the Virginia Festival of the Photograph (Look 3…see link), and hopefully at Visa Pour L’Image (Perpignan) this fall…stay tuned….
im trying , trying trying trying.
.. im in the second beer… stop teasing
IT WORKS!!!!!!! YES, THE MOVIE WORKS,… YEAHHHHHHHH!!!
David,
what can i say…!???
great movie…
Your childhood, the diagnosis, the fear of not walking….
speechless!
Remember this from JAckson. Loved it then, too. However only whets the appetite! Must have full hour!!! I’ve got cable, I can handle it!
Great stuff.
(And to those in an earlier (days ago!) discussion about flash technique and gels and the like…look closely at David’s flash in this film.)
… Michael, send me a web link, so i can watch the whole thing…
6 minutes , not enough…
Sorry P… I was hoping David had it! I’d love to see it. I fear we have to move to Australia where it originally aired. (At least, i think that’s where it was.)
gotcha Michael,..
David where can i buy that video….?
I cant drink a six pack in just 6 minutes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
david:
trying to watch the flick….
but, not working (or uploading slooooooowly, ’cause probably the entire dah blog world is chomping down on it ;))) )…
so, ok, until then:
here is the link to the VF article on FRANK that Akaky mentioned:
http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2008/04/frank200804?currentPage=1
and here is a film, from the article, with FRANK:
hopefully, i’ll get to see the movie before i sign off…
b
Thanks for that movie David. It reminded me of why I wanted to learn from you. It’s a very special film and worth viewing a few times, at least for me.
Janet
D: :))
just watched it 2x’s with Mrs. Black! :))))))….
M says that you and your mom look almost like brother and sister (hats off to ur mom! ) :)))))))….
look in the mirror indeed :))))…
thank u david alan harvey….thank you to ur mom as well :)))…
running to sleep with a hum in my belly :)))…
;more more films when u can :))
hugs
b
people, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT DO NOT “WORK” HERE!!!!
please, my girlfriend left me for 9 days … She is in Miami…
I feel so alone…
Please , especially to ones just peep through the gloryhole,
or just LURK, please write something…
I’m all alone and its monday night, and i’m tired reading my comments over and over…
please, please, please, i crave to hear new voices, opinions,
ideas….
please, please people get involved… and i promise everyone…
i will not bite…
I know there are thousands out there lurking, all over the world…
Drop something…
Dont worry , it wont break…!
DAVID and all,
I will run off to watch the movie and catch up on David’s galleries but first I would like to invite everyone to play a game with me. Panos has been encouraging me to “get naked”… I am sure he does not mean that literally, oh no Panos would never be so bold (HAHA) but he meant that I should “come out” and show my work and expose myself, right???
Well the timing is great because David was kind enough to post three of my images today under Singles part III. Thank you David for taking the time to do this. I am thrilled he posted these three images because it shows me how absolutely little I know about what is good and what is not good. One of the three he posted I had removed from my Lightstalkers page long ago because I thought so little of it (#23 on his site, third one on mine) and I didn’t even bother showing it to Alex Webb when he reviewed my work.
So here’s the game I would love for you to join me in…
PLEASE anyone who is interested go to my link (below on my name) and look at the first six images on the slideshow at Lightstalkers. YOU ONLY HAVE TO LOOK AT SIX IMAGES.
#1, #2 and #3 are the images David has posted. #4, #5 and #6 are the images Alex Webb selected…not even one image was chosen by both.
It’s certainly not a matter of right/wrong or even which you prefer although I welcome any comments. I am just happy that there are six “likeable” shots rather than only three!
Does anyone see why David selected the three he did and Alex the three he did and why they were not the same? I’m thinking perhaps each sees as a different “direction” for me… (Alex’s direction was that complex relationships was where I should head) It’s an opportunity to get you involved with my work which is always a good thing so thanks for looking….after you’re done with all the great stuff David has posted of his. Thanks!
Damn , exactly what i needed…
PERFECT, THANK YOU CATHY…
I’M coming right back,… i’m going to your site right now…
give me some time, dont rush me…
this is INTERESTING…
TWO MAGNUM PHOTOGS , ONE CATHY…
ALL SIX PHOTOS CHOSEN… UNBELIAVABLE…
NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT CATHY…
2 magnum photogs, and you, next thing i know, 3 magnum photographers….! bravo,
but,
let me go and see those nice “all chosen” photos of yours, and i will tell you my retarded opinion too…
As always do, want it, or not…
I work here , remember!
peace
MICHAEL are you there ?
I have my answers for CATHY…
but noone cares to listen…
bottomline
1 ( sweet)
2 ( nat geo boring)
3 ( nat geo – shot with a motordrive or EVEN WORST, waited for this shot… You knew the time they opened the door… anticipated… not
unexpcected…. excellent.!)
4 ( simply awesome)
5 (MY SUPER FAVORITE BY FAR)
6 (terrible, don’t even let me go there , please)
SO,… 1,4,5 PERFECT
2,3 O.K.
6 ( local suburbia newspaper)
peace
ps: i hope that i looked at the right photos…???
Cathy you said the 6 first in the slideshow…. right ???
Damn i just got a phonecall that i voted twice for Alex and once for
David !!!?,
but anyways, Cathy, life is a mystery, at least to me, so i will stick with my original,1,4,5
thanks Cathy for being so cool…
Nice work….
You totally deserve to work for NatGeo… at least 100 times more than me…
I hope to see your name some day in that “yellow magazine”
peace
Very cool Panos. Yes, the first six. I think you saw the correct images.
I actually “get” your opinion…I mean it totally makes sense to me what you are saying. AM I ON DRUGS???
Thank you! Thanks for playing.
and NO #3 was not shot with a motor drive. I don’t own one.
Kathy I think your singles in III must have been there for some time because I don’t see anything new… could be wrong, just had a quick 3 beers…
Speaking of Look3, I would suggest you get your tickets if you’re planning on going. It’s going to sell out.
Oh and Harvey, I sent you an email. Look for that if you have the time.
I think I’m wrong – maybe those weren’t there before. Must be the beer.
Cathy
I get the impression that both DAH and Alex each chose three
different images that,perhaps,mirrored their respective
shooting styles.
My take is that David leans a little more towards the ‘quiet’
moment while Alex very often seems to gravitate towards a
moment but with a specific graphic.
If you look through Alex’s archive at Magnum you can see a very
difinite pattern whereby a high percentage of his images contain
a strong vertical element that,more often than not,bisects the
image near the center.Your pics,especially #’s 5 and 6 fit that
pattern
Mark
David M,
David H. just mentioned posting new work on the site. Mine included.
mtomalty,
I also use a lot of “dividers” in my shots. Alex has been doing it way longer than I have but I am happy to know that I started doing it without even meaning to or knowing I was, long before I ever saw his work.
Thanks for your comments.
MARK SAID
“…more often than not,bisects the
image near the center.Your pics,especially #’s 5 and 6 fit that
pattern
Mark
Posted by: mtomalty | March 18, 2008 at 12:38 AM…”
WELL SAID MARK, EXCELLENT…
… AND ALSO LOOK AT THE “PERFECT TRIANGLE “,CATHY created at the photo no:4
good job Cathy
Cathy,
let me ask you:
When you visit those places and photograph, do you try
to be “invisible” or do you order people around … ask what you want ?
In other words , do you interact with the subject-people, or observe and photograph????
Panos,
I’ll answer your question in a sec…
First of all….
DAVID, DAVID, DAVID,
OMG!!!!! The MOVIE rocks. I LOVED it. In fact I think we should seriously find someone to document your upcoming road trip who can post movies to the site as you go. Any film makers available? No, not you Panos!
Okay Panos, well my nickname was always “the Observer” so that should tell you something. I definitely don’t “order” or “direct” but I do try to connect and interact by talking and watching.
BTW guys…I saw a lot of strong verticals in Davids work in the film too.
cathy ,
would you call Alex Webb an “observer” too? or no ???
Okay, wait…I take that back. Panos can’t be documenting the trip because he’s going to be the DRIVER!!! :))) Of course….and while he’s driving he can be posting to the blog about the trip. How’s that? :)
HA HA HA HA!!!!!!
David I’ve seen you dancing twice… Ha Ha… what can I say???… I love this Big Sentimental Selfconfident Guy With His Small Magicked Camera!!!!
Ha Ha I will have good day today after this film…
and David When you will publish new book with rest of your fenomenal unseen pictures???
please publish new book… Could you do it for me?…
Ha ha
Must running to work…
Panos, you may have a new job.
From pitbull to David’s driver in one day. That’s a promotion!
Panos,
man, I read tht article about Frank….really sad and tragic because in the end I think all that fame and acclaim is meaningless and what counts most is your family, kids….
I can also clean his shoes… or make a coffee…
Rafal, hey, what’s up…
Rafal,
in the previous episode, you were joking about a “problem”,
around Frank…?
really, im a little ignorant around that subject…?
Also what do you mean by “SAD AND TRAGIC”…?
What am i missing here..?
Sorry but im an ignorant…
Fill me in
please
peace
hi all,
david
do you have any plan for workshop in thailand again? i hope someday i can get that chance.
“keep going effy and all”
takecare
effy
Finally was able to see the movie. Too short!
Hi Cathy,
OK, IMO: 1 and 4 for me. 4 is very good, there is a superb silent kind of drama between the 3 pictures, a case of 1+1=3, which photography is all about. 3 seems flawed, if something should be in focus, it should be the kid whose invisible stare leads us to the action, not the crowd in the background.
I find the others have too many weaknesses, and are not strong or potent images at all, the timing seems off, even though the material is there.
I’d say don’t think too much about why and which one David and Alex like. I mean, it’s nice but I’d be more interested in what they say about the ones that did not make the cut in their eyes.
Again, IMO.
I meant between the 3 figures (not pictures)..
David,
thanks for positing the NatGeo movie. Must agree with the rest, and it was too short…and would be great to watch the entire film.
great idea, that you wanna post movies of and by photographers.
Bob,
thanks for posting the Frank article in Vanity Fair, and also the movie “pull my donkey”.
this all made my morning!
cheers,
jarle
dear david
for me that movie did not give me the good technic for take a pic but it give me more confidence and feel closely, closely to my dream. i think many people feel like me. many thank, “keep going david, keep going effy and all”
i heart Courtney Rule !!!!
Interesting video though I would have liked to see longer sequences of David shooting or interacting with people.
David, thanks a lot lot for the review… so much appreciated. I will have to pin it down somewhere !
I sent you 2 emails (at blog questions and at aol).
Did you get them ?
Cheers
Hi David
Speaking of movies, did you get the movie i sent you, via email to your AOL account? Maybe it was too big, about 7MB! I’ll try resending later…
Paul
Jarle :))…my pleasure :))…thanks to Akaky for bemoaning the St. P’s parade and turning us on to the article in print :))..
Cathy:
Generally, it isnt my bag to “second guess” another photographer and i think the reason why David and Alex choose 3 different pictures is quiet obvious: each photographer see the world entirely differently; hence the need for each photographer to (as David spoke of in the flick he posted “look in the mirror”) dig into themselves and if not understand (maybe an imposibility) at attempt to embrace and taste what it is that you are measured by and hunger for in your own photography. What is it that you see and how is it you see (that How goes out to Herve ;)) )…Just because David and Alex are post brilliant photographers and members of magnum doesn’t mean a dime when it comes to their aesthetic or personality or visual philosophy or…dancing style! :))
I see David’s choices as very much a David photograph: lots of empty space within the frame: a almost painterly understanding of space and “drama” within the silence: lots of silence and loneliness (is this the loneliness of polio his mom spoke about?). David’s drama is more subtle, less obvious, but it is there in equal measures to Alex (notice the drama of the 2 boys on horse and how this compares with the drama of the boy that Alex choose (3 figures, #4). alex’s “great” choices (#4 & #5) contain very clear an interesting drama: almost the Bressonian “moment”: the boy holding the batman and the cook in the background, the child watching his parents (?) with interest/sadness/grief/surprise and the way he holds his lasso, the tiny child with the ball against the collusus…Alex’s pictures usually have something very intense, and so, im not surprised he gravitated toward those 3…
as for my own take on your pics, i wont comment, ’cause i think it’s important each photographer wrestle with that themselves…i personally usually find something interesting in almost all photographs and that’s what i hold onto and lick upon…
I should say this. As a photographer, while my own work is often criticized as being “excessively dramatic” (style why, though I have no idea what that means), I prefer David’s choices and david’s aesthetic…and i dont mean ’cause it’s his frickin’ blog..but because, i think accumulative silence, in the end, becomes more mysterious, more biting…i prefer photographs that make me think:
“why the hell did the photographer shoot that, or make the pic like that” instead of “ooo, yes, that’s a great shot, cause look at that moment..” etc…then again, i’ve always preferred Giacomelli to Bresson, Frank to Evans, Boltanski to 90% of the war photographers, Kuwayama to the lot ;))…
the way people are caught by space and moment, for me, often reveals more about them that the surface detail of what they’re doing..:))…
cheers
b
CATHY…
i tried to play your game myself…curious to see the differing edits…then, i realized i had never seen pics 5 and 6 before….were Alex and i both picking from the same batch of pics??? i had chosen 6 or 7 pictures of yours from the essay you shot and then picked 3 of those…Alex could not possibly have been picking from the same 6 or 7 because even you do not know which 6 or 7 i chose….or do you??? when i go to your site , both 5 and 6 are pictures from another story , are they not??? i do not recall seeing them before…no doubt Alex and i would often choose differently, me for emotion, alex for complexity, but , in this case, i do not think we were choosing from the same second edit…
by the way, there were a few others i did like way down in your selection…if you do a tight edit of your work, like down to 20, you will have a nice portfolio…but, i still want to see your lowrider work…
mostly Cathy, and i think Alex would agree, you tend to photograph “exotic” subjects…clothing seems to make a lot of difference to you…and that is ok…so ok, that maybe you should really “go for it”…just take the “fashion look” way out there…no no not shoot fashion…but make your work really STYLED… OR, if that is not really your thing, then shoot something “not exotic”…do not make cowboy hats and scarves a “crutch”….in other words, either really “put it out there” or take it out…
cheers, david
CATHY…
looked again…for sure, i have never seen the basketball photograph before..what is that from??? very nice picture!!!
the only way to “play the game” is to make sure we are all seeing the same pictures, same second edit…
david
RAFAL…
i think you have heard me say many times that all that really matters is family….
but, you still continue to confuse “fame” with good or great work….i do not think Frank or any great photographer thinks about or gives a damn about “fame” …go back and read my post with that title several months ago…
serious photographers are compelled to do what they do…no choice…
but, Frank himself may have neglected his children in the process…i think this created a great sadness in him…but, i do not think Frank was putting “fame” ahead of his children…surely, he never thought about that…but, he may have let his WORK get in the way of his personal life…
PAUL..
i just have not had time to view your link…but, i will today…
david
Cathy,
Of the six photographs I like 1 (very much) and 4.
Of the rest of your portfolio – too many to mention all individually but 7,8,15,Sadhu(22) and At the Beach (36) stand out. You are very good at photographing children.
David, tried to load film but no joy as-yet: will try later.
Mike.
well… the day here is just beginning and has been already so inspiring, that I have this sensation in my stomach and my feet to run out and go photograph anything…
this cocktail of CATHY photo #5 + ROBERT FRANK “Americans” + DAH movie is too much for a Tuesday before 9 o’clock
DAVID,
haven’t had a chance to read the comments…just jumping in quickly but YES I submitted all the same photos to you that you are saying you have never seen. I will look at my folder and let you know what the numbers were in my “assignment” folder.
be back soon
I dont think he was doing it for fame either, but fame came his way. Im sure he was doing it for his art and his vision but in the end its sad to read him talk about his regrets vis a vis his family and just to read what became of his family. So theres a sadness to it. Im just saying that in the end, whether you achieve fame or fortune, accolades or respect as THE Robert Frank it pales in comparison to the regrets you feel. And I think everyone has regrets.
CATHY…
i can go back and look at your original submission…maybe i was confused by some pictures which did not seem to be part of your essay , which, in my memory was just the cowboy work….i mean, is the basketball picture part of your essay??? or is that a single?? if it was a single , then i would not have put it in the same edit…and therefore never seen it again…i was just editing for the essay that first time around..there is some kind of mixup here and i am not sure what it is..in any case, for sure and for whatever reason alex and i were not looking at the same pictures..but, i do like the game anyway!!!
cheers, david
DAVID,
In my folder submitted to you the basketball shot is #30 and the other one you say you have never seen is #31. I definitely submitted them to you and showed them to Alex as well. Did you not see them somehow??? Maybe you could take another look at my folder? They are there!
I only included six images in the “game” because you selected three and Alex selected three so I showed all six. I submitted all six of those to BOTH of you (except for the Rodeo shot with the gate opening I didn’t show to Alex because I didn’t like it much.)
There were others from the past that I showed Alex which were not part of the “assignment” some of which are on Lightstalkers.
No, I don’t know which images were in your “semifinals” but I did think you would be posting #18 from my submission to you (#4 in the set of six on Lightstalkers that we are looking at) because you said in your review to me (which I saved of course) that the two strongest images I submitted were “the guys with the rope, and the guys talking by the fence” but you did not post the people talking by the fence. That’s the first of the three Alex selected.
IN ANY CASE…I appreciate your posting ANY of my work but I do hope you had the chance to see my full submission and were able to choose from all of them.