Comments on: Che https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/02/che/ burn is an online feature for emerging photographers worldwide. burn is curated by magnum photographer david alan harvey. Sat, 18 Jun 2016 08:34:43 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2.4 By: Harry https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/02/che/#comment-15343 Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:57:55 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/02/10/che/#comment-15343 so, to all of you i ask…would you sacrifice your “art” and your talent for what you considered to be a “worthy cause” ?

Yes that’s pretty much what I try to do all the time. I’m not that interested in art or money. well OK I’m interested in both but I’m more interested in what I consider to be worthy causes.

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By: marcin https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/02/che/#comment-15344 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:48:44 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/02/10/che/#comment-15344 David

I do not stop. I just must from time to time do aggrrrrrrrrrrrr!
peace

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By: david alan harvey https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/02/che/#comment-15345 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:04:00 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/02/10/che/#comment-15345 MARCIN…

i am rushing BUT…

you are an artist….you make great sense every time you write…period.

do not stop. period.

peace, david

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By: Panos Skoulidas https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/02/che/#comment-15346 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:31:58 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/02/10/che/#comment-15346 CHE’S THOUGHTS ABOUT THE CORRUPTED SOVIET UNION:

…when Khrushchev agreed to withdraw the missiles from Cuban territory without consulting Castro, Guevara had grown increasingly skeptical of the Soviet Union. As revealed in his last speech in Algiers, he had come to view the Northern Hemisphere, led by the U.S. in the West and the Soviet Union in the East, as the exploiter of the Southern Hemisphere….

PANOS ADDS … FUCK THE SOVIET UNION…
FUCK STALIN, FUCK KHRUSHCHEV…. FUCK THE “IRON CURTAIN”

PANOS FEELS SORRY FOR ANYONE THAT HAD TO LIVE UNDER THE RULES OF THE SOVIET UNION’S DICTATORSHIP… even for one single day….
PANOS FEELS SORRY FOR EVERYONE THAT LIVES IN COMMUNIST CHINA TODAY…
FUCK COMMUNISM… FUCK COMMUNIST CHINA…
BUT PANOS FEELS PROUD FOR ANYONE THAT …WAS IN THE TIEN-AMEN SQUARE…
panos says “fuck you to “GOOGLE -CHINA”…that releases information to the government… of todays COMMUNIST CHINA…
of poor young people that envision “freedom”..
2008 and still in COMMUNIST- SOCIALIST -DICTATORSHIP – CHINA… people get arrested, imprisoned and executed because of what they post or read in the web…
FUCK COMMUNIST CHINA.. for not letting his HOLINESS THE DALAI LAMA to go back home in Tibet…
FUCK MYANMAR AND THE BIG BROTHER CHINA… for beating, abducting, killing, BUDDHIST MONKS…

MONKS????….
AND ALSO FUCK YOU TOO… FOR DOING NOTHING ABOUT IT…
o.k, back to your life…
lets start debating… if a mustang is better than a camaro…
or if a canon is better than a sigma camera…

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By: Panos Skoulidas https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/02/che/#comment-15347 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:59:28 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/02/10/che/#comment-15347 people talking shit about “CHE”…!
next thing i know… people will talk shit about FRIDA KAHLO…
… or TROTSKY….
I’ve had it…

“ADD”……(attention deficiency disorder)..
one of my mental malfunctions…
Having said that… i love the MULTIPLE POSTS IDEA…
It’s like living in a house with a lot of rooms instead of a studio apartment…

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By: Panos Skoulidas https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/02/che/#comment-15348 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:44:25 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/02/10/che/#comment-15348 THE TRUTH ABOUT
Che Guevara
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

For his part Jon Lee Anderson author of the 800 + page biography ‘Che Guevara: A Revolutionary Life’ [22] has stated that: “Those persons executed by Guevara or on his orders were condemned for the usual crimes punishable by death at times of war or in its aftermath: desertion, treason, rape, torture, or murder.” [23] Anderson’s biography has been criticized by Conservative Cuban exile and author Humberto Fontova…

…he was captured in a military operation supported by the CIA and the U.S. Army Special Forces.[26] Guevara was summarily executed by the Bolivian Army in the town of La Higuera near Vallegrande on October 9, 1967. [27][28]…

MARCIN , MICHAEL K AND ANYBODY ELSE NARROW MINDED OUT THERE………………. read the above…
Its not even my words…

peace

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By: panos skoulidas https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/02/che/#comment-15349 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:07:08 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/02/10/che/#comment-15349 VIVA ALL GIRLS…
(laughing)… Absolutely , RIGHT ON,
BOB..
question to all?
Can photographers have a ” normal” relationship?
I’m not only talking about fashion photographers,
( unless gay? They get more pussy than rock stars do )
I’m talking about photojournalists,
kinda like our “MAESTRO” here…
travelling all the time,.. Galleries, exhibitions, etc.
Now, if you leave the fiancée at home she gets mad..
the finest girls are not hanging in bars or football games…
the finest girls love, sexy, loose open minded artists like DAH…
they are not looking for machismo…

I’m not famous, but David?, how can you stay loyal
when there are at least 10 women in any of your shows,
throwing the pussy at you???

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By: panos skoulidas https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/02/che/#comment-15350 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:57:33 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/02/10/che/#comment-15350 and honestly , I DO love my girlfriend..
and actually… Marcin, you should hear her accent…
Absolutely in love with her accent…
Do I always understand her?
No, but that’s part of the fun you know…

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By: bobblack https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/02/che/#comment-15351 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:27:59 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/02/10/che/#comment-15351 Marcin: :))

ooooo, :))))…Marcin, you’re speaking Polish, fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck ;))))…see how stupid i am :))))…why did i think u were
Czech? ;)))….yea, my wife is “beautiful” (i aint, though) and really smart…and cool…and good photographer too :))

panos :))))

why do i think u smooth ting with all the ladies?…i dont buy it: i think u are da player VSOP, dog! :))))..VIVA ALL GIRLS ! :))…

hugs

running
b

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By: panos skoulidas https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/02/che/#comment-15352 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:19:12 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/02/10/che/#comment-15352 I agree with Bob and everybody above..
Bob , Marcin, you guys should hear me speaking Czech …
LOL . My girlfriend eventually gave up teaching me..
I was doing so bad..to the point she thought I was being sarcastic…
( damn reputation )…
I want also to disagree with everyone about the “who is more beautiful :
Russian or Czech girls…
VIVA CZECH Republic…
people what do you think?
I totally vote for the CZECH girls…
people , what do you expect ME to say?
After the “birthday fiasco”… I dont wanna sleep in the couch again …
(LOL )

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By: marcin https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/02/che/#comment-15353 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:47:56 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/02/10/che/#comment-15353 Thanks guys…

But i’m not frustrated, I’m… hmmm angry for myself… piss of? englishman said if i’m not wrong.
Bob we have something similar, I’m not speaking czech too.
Your wife is Russian? Now I know why you always writing about her. Russian women are very beautiful. Amazing nation.

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By: bobblack https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/02/che/#comment-15354 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:34:39 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/02/10/che/#comment-15354 Marcin:

u should hear my Czech ;))))))))…your English is stronger, more beautiful (less aggressive) and stronger than my russian (and my wife is russian) or my Czech (which is totally disappeared)….

believe me friend, u have NOTHING to feel frustrated about…language is only for communication and to be together…

words?…well, when u write, i always listen: and i dont say this cause of you being Marcin, but because what u write/say is always interesting…and, trust me,

it’s the stupid thing since the world uses english: i just have luck of being born speaking english, but doesnt mean what i write is better…

only fucking longer ;)))))))))

hugs
b

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By: Jason Hobbs https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/02/che/#comment-15355 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:17:35 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/02/10/che/#comment-15355 hey marcin,

don’t get too down on yourself. you’re doing fine, you make sense when you write. i doubt if anyone is judging you here. if they are who cares, write it anyway.

keep going, never give in.

jason.

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By: marcin https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/02/che/#comment-15356 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:34:07 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/02/10/che/#comment-15356 David

I mentioned many post ago that my english is too primitive to say what I want. Many times I wrote something and then I see it look so agressive. why? I’m not at all.
I wish to speak english as bob do.
words fly…
even if I must stop read his long comments after half…
You guys talking about art and life, and I? I can talk about nothing with words I have.
Yes I’m angry… only for my self. what I’m doing here? I have thousands thoughts per second and I’m writing few words by half hour, and even then this is not what i want to say straightly.
I have nothing to anybody. Why should I?

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By: Michael Kircher https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/02/che/#comment-15357 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:28:32 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/02/10/che/#comment-15357 Well, we might just get that chance in South Dakota!

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By: david alan harvey https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/02/che/#comment-15767 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:31:23 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/02/10/che/#comment-15767 PANOS…

you NAILED me with the Tupac video….i had never seen it….so so predictive…..hmmmmmm

MARCIN and MICHAEL K.

yes yes, i probably lean too too much in the direction of optimism, but that is just the way i am…if i went DOWN, i would probably not get back UP…so i just try to stay UP and focus on the good side of human nature, but being fully aware of the demons in all of us…

but, for sure, if Panos and you and i were in the same room at the same time and drinking a cold beer and listening to some good music and maybe looking at photographs or talking about photographs or about love or about the weather or whatever , i truly believe we would all walk out together with a “high five” and a big hug as a goodbye…i might even try to organize such a meeting!!!

peace, david

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By: marcin https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/02/che/#comment-15768 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:12:16 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/02/10/che/#comment-15768 Panos

You always suprising me.
but I must missing the point more than I was thought. mea culpa
“Killing is not always death… sometimes is just the BEGINNING….”
No Panos, killing is just killing. If you die nothing will beginning for you.
hmmmmmm… maybe you thinking about clouds and heaven… hmmmm death is still death.
and i have love for you too… you know that

ps. Bolek and lolek was not my favorite movie, and now many people thinking that they are gays. Bad movie for bad boys?

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By: Panos Skoulidas https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/02/che/#comment-15769 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:04:49 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/02/10/che/#comment-15769 11:00 pm… in L.A…
time for anotha joint… damm it…

what you CHOOSE???… the “sweetest joint”???? … or “pussy”???
or mabe “…the sweetest joint, next to getting pussy….

IF THERE WAS , EVER, ANY JESUS…, AT ALL,… REALLY AT ALL!!!!
…then 2PAC, was the ONE…
peace… but DAVID, i’m so astonished you personally know LOU REED… DAH…. you’re the “shit”… no kidding bro….

“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgjA5NLFjKM&feature=related

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By: Panos Skoulidas https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/02/che/#comment-15770 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:52:46 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/02/10/che/#comment-15770 Marcin and ALL…
please watch this, below:

I aint mad at you..

I love all my nephews… says UNCLE Panos…
Peace player- haters…

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By: Panos Skoulidas https://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2008/02/che/#comment-15771 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:43:33 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2008/02/10/che/#comment-15771 Marcin, marcin..
Long time ago , i said i admire your work… to begin with…

You see , as an immigrant in California… when i see “ALEX WEBB’S ”
photo, arresting an immigrant (LIKE ME)…
and i can see very well that he is “embedded” with the “white” police..
(o.k. we all know that police has no color)…
then i get mad… because of my “issues”… because of my problems…
and then… i start yelling… i scream… i cry…
i have a problem you know… since i was a kid , i was always identifying myself with the “bad”, the ones being “chased”…
If i see a movie, lets say , between COWBOYS and INDIANS…
i was always with the “INDIANS”… if i see a movie or a CNN reportage, between the “blacks” and the ” whites”… i was always with the “darker complexion, no matter how dark”…
as a kid i always wanted to be ZORO… not a superman or batman..
just Zoro… although i grew up with BOLEK & LOLEK , you know…
I didnt only grew up with “Mickey” only…

And yes Marcin,
there were euro trash countries that didnt really resist….
And Poland IS NOT one of them… if that makes any difference at all, to my comment…
There are still a lot of cowards out there… thats my fucking point…
You see i observe a “desperation” in you…. not fear of death…
There is a great Polish community in Athens.. and i totally respect how “relaxed-super hard working- non violent- law abiding- role model- citizens- polish people are…

As i said before, my girlfriend is from Prague, Czech Republic….
actually born in Carlovy Vary.. but anyways…
She has all these stories to tell me, she has the socialist upbringing… she is trying to convince me to move back to Prague… in the next year…
Although i think i would love to start travelling again…
Although i love my new horse…
People i want to announce how happy i got my second horse,
plus i ordered my second Leica… 20 minutes ago…

Marcin…. remember
Killing is not always death… sometimes is just the BEGINNING….
“There is nothing more exhilarating than getting rid of an old, stalled, infected relationship…
How nice is to be free again….(but, honestly… this doesnt apply to me at this moment.. just dreaming…

Hey Marcin, i aint mad at you, and i have love for you.. as 2pac said.
peace and love from L.A.

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