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		<title>By: david alan harvey</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/07/beach-bum/comment-page-2/#comment-21341</link>
		<dc:creator>david alan harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>colin...

sorry, i missed your comment first time around...yes, i think it is possible to &quot;have both&quot;...why not??

nick...

will you come to perpignan??  i have a feeling you are shooting something very interesting...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>colin&#8230;</p>
<p>sorry, i missed your comment first time around&#8230;yes, i think it is possible to &#8220;have both&#8221;&#8230;why not??</p>
<p>nick&#8230;</p>
<p>will you come to perpignan??  i have a feeling you are shooting something very interesting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Yoon</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/07/beach-bum/comment-page-2/#comment-21342</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Yoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, I use a browser with popup blocking so I didn&#039;t even know slate has popups, sorry.
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		<title>By: Arie</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/07/beach-bum/comment-page-2/#comment-21343</link>
		<dc:creator>Arie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks david for comments about sam abell...there is something good in each and every of us and that is what I want to discover...i went shooting very early this morning and took with me your idea about doing crazy things...i asked this guy (paul) to be my sbject for the morning...he accepted...we talked about our lives, what we like...we decided to go and see a boxing event on the island soon...that is what photography is for me: the meeting of people who would not meet otherwise, the sharing of a portion of our lives ....

all the words shared with another human being will not be captured in a still photograph....that is to me a major limitation...how to capture this moment in all its dimension? how to stay close from the experience? when I photograph, a im just saying, I have been there with X, and trust me we had a good experience together  for a moment in life?

Arie


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks david for comments about sam abell&#8230;there is something good in each and every of us and that is what I want to discover&#8230;i went shooting very early this morning and took with me your idea about doing crazy things&#8230;i asked this guy (paul) to be my sbject for the morning&#8230;he accepted&#8230;we talked about our lives, what we like&#8230;we decided to go and see a boxing event on the island soon&#8230;that is what photography is for me: the meeting of people who would not meet otherwise, the sharing of a portion of our lives &#8230;.</p>
<p>all the words shared with another human being will not be captured in a still photograph&#8230;.that is to me a major limitation&#8230;how to capture this moment in all its dimension? how to stay close from the experience? when I photograph, a im just saying, I have been there with X, and trust me we had a good experience together  for a moment in life?</p>
<p>Arie</p>
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		<title>By: bobblack</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/07/beach-bum/comment-page-2/#comment-21344</link>
		<dc:creator>bobblack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O, David.....

my grandmother used to say to me when i was young (and getting ready to leave her and my grandfather for the summer to return home): &quot;honey, its too early in the morning for tears...&quot;. ;))))...since, i&#039;ve always been an easy one for tears, hasnt seemed to stop; )))....thank you, genuinely, for your kind and thoughtful and remarkably generous words. They mean a great deal to me and I cherish them and shall reward you in the fall with both a bottle of fine icewine and an even finer hug(s)....

so let me, for your audience, return the favor....

DO WHAT DAVID ALAN HARVEY DOES!!!...

I dont mean just make beautiful and sad and heart-pulpy photographs. I mean live, bridge distances, create community, open your selves to the fact of this breathing life. We are nothing without one another, for even in our often isolated and lonely pockets of self, we realize that without the other, we are nothing but blood and bone and air, that too quickly evaporating. David Alan Havey has, without surcease, sung the song of life. He, continually, has created, unselfishly, community. I do not know what richer way to spend a life than to tell stories, to share them and to listen, above all listen and encourage others to do the same. There are few people in this swelling world that spend, often at their own expense and work and lives, ensuring that others are healthy and fed and encouraged and brought to life. David, in the most essential way, is a teacher and builder of things: lives and spirits and essences. I mark the measure of a person by the character of their lives, the navigation of their spirits, large or small. We all know David is an extraordinary photographer, but for me, this is less important than that he continually seeds those around him with encouragement and life and challenge. We are nothing without community. So raise high the roofbeams y&#039;all. That is the essence, for me of a character.

Do what DAH does because there is little meaning in the tending of  your life but that: to give back, to arch yourself into this life and drink upon it and share that and inspire others. As a photographer, the only thing that has ever matter to me is that my work (and its a constant failure) is only that: oxygen, a part of my bone and flesh and life. Not more important, but just as integral. I spend more time listening and watching and thinking than i do shooting, because I want my pictures to be simply that: the character of the living of things. I was once asked for advice (my advice now would be to shoot, listen and drink with David ;) ), and all i could say was this: shooting comes from a place that has little to do with photography: the rhyming of your life....

DO WHAT DAVID DOES....

and this for you David:

my grandmother use to tell me: &#039;bob, life is like a square dance: stay under the barnroof long enough and you&#039;ll arm your partner...&#039; I believe in that: that we are meant to be connected and will connect with those people who feed us and in whom we are nurture and can nurture: distance, truly, and time, an irrelevancy. I wrote yesterday the same to Tamara Voninsky, my friend from Sydney. The older i get, it just become more cloudy: that we, miraculously and in wonderment, join our lives with others with whom are lives bloom. I met my wife when i was 35, though she was urchined   on the other side of the globe...i met david through the backdoor of LS and this forum, without ever intending to meet him or thinking even about magnum photographers or frankly, photographers at all: we are bowed and bridged to people, a constellation of lives that make our lives rich and i always feel blessed and always amazed at the people who i can join my life with: i dont believe in fate, but i do believe in propinquity...like the greeks idea of soul mates: those people who we were attached at the ankle before being cloven will eventually find each other...my life, folks, has been a testament to that....my friendship (soon to bloom this fall in real life; )) ), with david is an example of that...

do not seek out others, but live as well and as honestly as you can and your life will join for those to whom it was meant...

i feel happy and blessed to know and talk with David because, like all the people who enter our lives, my life would have been poorer without....

thanks david...

bob

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O, David&#8230;..</p>
<p>my grandmother used to say to me when i was young (and getting ready to leave her and my grandfather for the summer to return home): &#8220;honey, its too early in the morning for tears&#8230;&#8221;. ;))))&#8230;since, i&#8217;ve always been an easy one for tears, hasnt seemed to stop; )))&#8230;.thank you, genuinely, for your kind and thoughtful and remarkably generous words. They mean a great deal to me and I cherish them and shall reward you in the fall with both a bottle of fine icewine and an even finer hug(s)&#8230;.</p>
<p>so let me, for your audience, return the favor&#8230;.</p>
<p>DO WHAT DAVID ALAN HARVEY DOES!!!&#8230;</p>
<p>I dont mean just make beautiful and sad and heart-pulpy photographs. I mean live, bridge distances, create community, open your selves to the fact of this breathing life. We are nothing without one another, for even in our often isolated and lonely pockets of self, we realize that without the other, we are nothing but blood and bone and air, that too quickly evaporating. David Alan Havey has, without surcease, sung the song of life. He, continually, has created, unselfishly, community. I do not know what richer way to spend a life than to tell stories, to share them and to listen, above all listen and encourage others to do the same. There are few people in this swelling world that spend, often at their own expense and work and lives, ensuring that others are healthy and fed and encouraged and brought to life. David, in the most essential way, is a teacher and builder of things: lives and spirits and essences. I mark the measure of a person by the character of their lives, the navigation of their spirits, large or small. We all know David is an extraordinary photographer, but for me, this is less important than that he continually seeds those around him with encouragement and life and challenge. We are nothing without community. So raise high the roofbeams y&#8217;all. That is the essence, for me of a character.</p>
<p>Do what DAH does because there is little meaning in the tending of  your life but that: to give back, to arch yourself into this life and drink upon it and share that and inspire others. As a photographer, the only thing that has ever matter to me is that my work (and its a constant failure) is only that: oxygen, a part of my bone and flesh and life. Not more important, but just as integral. I spend more time listening and watching and thinking than i do shooting, because I want my pictures to be simply that: the character of the living of things. I was once asked for advice (my advice now would be to shoot, listen and drink with David ;) ), and all i could say was this: shooting comes from a place that has little to do with photography: the rhyming of your life&#8230;.</p>
<p>DO WHAT DAVID DOES&#8230;.</p>
<p>and this for you David:</p>
<p>my grandmother use to tell me: &#8216;bob, life is like a square dance: stay under the barnroof long enough and you&#8217;ll arm your partner&#8230;&#8217; I believe in that: that we are meant to be connected and will connect with those people who feed us and in whom we are nurture and can nurture: distance, truly, and time, an irrelevancy. I wrote yesterday the same to Tamara Voninsky, my friend from Sydney. The older i get, it just become more cloudy: that we, miraculously and in wonderment, join our lives with others with whom are lives bloom. I met my wife when i was 35, though she was urchined   on the other side of the globe&#8230;i met david through the backdoor of LS and this forum, without ever intending to meet him or thinking even about magnum photographers or frankly, photographers at all: we are bowed and bridged to people, a constellation of lives that make our lives rich and i always feel blessed and always amazed at the people who i can join my life with: i dont believe in fate, but i do believe in propinquity&#8230;like the greeks idea of soul mates: those people who we were attached at the ankle before being cloven will eventually find each other&#8230;my life, folks, has been a testament to that&#8230;.my friendship (soon to bloom this fall in real life; )) ), with david is an example of that&#8230;</p>
<p>do not seek out others, but live as well and as honestly as you can and your life will join for those to whom it was meant&#8230;</p>
<p>i feel happy and blessed to know and talk with David because, like all the people who enter our lives, my life would have been poorer without&#8230;.</p>
<p>thanks david&#8230;</p>
<p>bob</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kircher</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/07/beach-bum/comment-page-1/#comment-21345</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kircher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Within tens seconds of being at Slate I had to deal with three...THREE freakin&#039; pop-up adds!  Ugh.  Hate that.

On general principle alone, I didn&#039;t stick around long enough to check all the images.  Just hopped over to Magnum itself.

Thanks for the heads-up, though, Nick.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Within tens seconds of being at Slate I had to deal with three&#8230;THREE freakin&#8217; pop-up adds!  Ugh.  Hate that.</p>
<p>On general principle alone, I didn&#8217;t stick around long enough to check all the images.  Just hopped over to Magnum itself.</p>
<p>Thanks for the heads-up, though, Nick.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Yoon</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/07/beach-bum/comment-page-1/#comment-21346</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Yoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 12:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, I wonder how closely the Magnum staff read your blog, because &quot;Today&#039;s Pictures&quot; on Slate.com for Aug.2 is &quot;Beach Towns&quot; and has one of your Salvador pictures as the opening image.

http://todayspictures.slate.com/20070802/


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, I wonder how closely the Magnum staff read your blog, because &#8220;Today&#8217;s Pictures&#8221; on Slate.com for Aug.2 is &#8220;Beach Towns&#8221; and has one of your Salvador pictures as the opening image.</p>
<p><a href="http://todayspictures.slate.com/20070802/" rel="nofollow">http://todayspictures.slate.com/20070802/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nick Yoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Yoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 12:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, I wonder how closely the Magnum staff read your blog, because &quot;Today&#039;s Pictures&quot; on Slate.com for Aug.2 is &quot;Beach Towns&quot; and has one of your Salvador pictures as the opening image.

http://todayspictures.slate.com/20070802/


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, I wonder how closely the Magnum staff read your blog, because &#8220;Today&#8217;s Pictures&#8221; on Slate.com for Aug.2 is &#8220;Beach Towns&#8221; and has one of your Salvador pictures as the opening image.</p>
<p><a href="http://todayspictures.slate.com/20070802/" rel="nofollow">http://todayspictures.slate.com/20070802/</a></p>
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		<title>By: david alan harvey</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/07/beach-bum/comment-page-1/#comment-21348</link>
		<dc:creator>david alan harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 11:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>arie....

honest answer....

sam abell is an old friend from National Geographic...both he and bill allard were &quot;in place&quot; years before me,  and both inspired me tremendously at the magazine....

sam has one of the best &quot;layered&quot; pictures ever taken by anyone  with his  cowboy &quot;castration picture&quot; he shot on the charlie russell story...

i certainly love much of sam&#039;s finest work, the bulk of which was shot  somewhere between 1970 and perhaps the late 80&#039;s.....his work during that era is to be admired, at least in the context of National Geographic during those years...

sam is also, by all accounts, a master teacher....he has set the highest standards for all of us for workshop teaching and is a booksmith with impeccable taste....clean,clear,linear....

you are right to admire the work of sam abell....

however, for a variety of complex compound reasons, sam seems to have stopped photographing seriously, or at least &quot;on the edge&quot;,  many  years ago...

i yearn to open a magazine or a new book photographed by sam and be inspired once again...but, his work now looks &quot;tired&quot; to me...maybe it is just because i have seen nothing inspirationally &quot;new&quot; for such a long long time....

allard, on the other hand, continues to surprise, influence,  and well, the man is just &quot;out there&quot; working...

to be fair, sam can only be held accountable for what he has done... not by what he has &quot;done lately&quot;...nobody &quot;quantifies&quot; an artist by &quot;how long&quot; they produced..only by &quot;what&quot; they produced....

henri cartier-bresson made most of his iconic images in about 7 years....picasso has 70 yrs. worth....

perhaps sam himself would declare himself more of a teacher than a current photographer...i do not know...

but, the reality in photographic peer groups like National Geographic and Magnum, is that photographers have their own &quot;inside judgments&quot; about each other...

these  may or may not coincide with the photographer&#039;s commercial or editorial  success or even their &quot;popularity&quot; with &quot;fans&quot; or students...i am sure this is so so true in any of the commercial creative arts like music, filmaking etc etc...

many have felt that sam &quot;dropped out&quot; too early...

having said all of this, and giving sam the full &quot;benefit of the doubt&quot;,  i do await anxiously for  his  upcoming book on the amazon...








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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>arie&#8230;.</p>
<p>honest answer&#8230;.</p>
<p>sam abell is an old friend from National Geographic&#8230;both he and bill allard were &#8220;in place&#8221; years before me,  and both inspired me tremendously at the magazine&#8230;.</p>
<p>sam has one of the best &#8220;layered&#8221; pictures ever taken by anyone  with his  cowboy &#8220;castration picture&#8221; he shot on the charlie russell story&#8230;</p>
<p>i certainly love much of sam&#8217;s finest work, the bulk of which was shot  somewhere between 1970 and perhaps the late 80&#8242;s&#8230;..his work during that era is to be admired, at least in the context of National Geographic during those years&#8230;</p>
<p>sam is also, by all accounts, a master teacher&#8230;.he has set the highest standards for all of us for workshop teaching and is a booksmith with impeccable taste&#8230;.clean,clear,linear&#8230;.</p>
<p>you are right to admire the work of sam abell&#8230;.</p>
<p>however, for a variety of complex compound reasons, sam seems to have stopped photographing seriously, or at least &#8220;on the edge&#8221;,  many  years ago&#8230;</p>
<p>i yearn to open a magazine or a new book photographed by sam and be inspired once again&#8230;but, his work now looks &#8220;tired&#8221; to me&#8230;maybe it is just because i have seen nothing inspirationally &#8220;new&#8221; for such a long long time&#8230;.</p>
<p>allard, on the other hand, continues to surprise, influence,  and well, the man is just &#8220;out there&#8221; working&#8230;</p>
<p>to be fair, sam can only be held accountable for what he has done&#8230; not by what he has &#8220;done lately&#8221;&#8230;nobody &#8220;quantifies&#8221; an artist by &#8220;how long&#8221; they produced..only by &#8220;what&#8221; they produced&#8230;.</p>
<p>henri cartier-bresson made most of his iconic images in about 7 years&#8230;.picasso has 70 yrs. worth&#8230;.</p>
<p>perhaps sam himself would declare himself more of a teacher than a current photographer&#8230;i do not know&#8230;</p>
<p>but, the reality in photographic peer groups like National Geographic and Magnum, is that photographers have their own &#8220;inside judgments&#8221; about each other&#8230;</p>
<p>these  may or may not coincide with the photographer&#8217;s commercial or editorial  success or even their &#8220;popularity&#8221; with &#8220;fans&#8221; or students&#8230;i am sure this is so so true in any of the commercial creative arts like music, filmaking etc etc&#8230;</p>
<p>many have felt that sam &#8220;dropped out&#8221; too early&#8230;</p>
<p>having said all of this, and giving sam the full &#8220;benefit of the doubt&#8221;,  i do await anxiously for  his  upcoming book on the amazon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Ryder</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/07/beach-bum/comment-page-1/#comment-21349</link>
		<dc:creator>David Ryder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 11:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah it&#039;s so true, but I can&#039;t fight the itch that I&#039;m starting to get to travel again...here it comes, just like it always does...
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		<title>By: david alan harvey</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/07/beach-bum/comment-page-1/#comment-21350</link>
		<dc:creator>david alan harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 11:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>david ryder...

nice quote....did not know it, but i do believe it...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>david ryder&#8230;</p>
<p>nice quote&#8230;.did not know it, but i do believe it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: david alan harvey</title>
		<link>http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/07/beach-bum/comment-page-1/#comment-21351</link>
		<dc:creator>david alan harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 07:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bob....

just absolutely terrific work....and the words to match...





hello all...


ok, everyone who is out there shooting right now for publication here... please listen.......

do what bob black does!!!

DO NOT COPY BOB BLACK, BUT DO WHAT BOB BLACK DOES....

the man goes out there with only two things:
heart and soul.....the pictures follow.....

i have never met bob black...previously  i was only vaguely aware of his work....i only know him through this forum...

but i do know bob black...but only from seeing some of his work....and the boy writes   some pretty damn cool words too....

but, now i have another PLEASE for you...
do not think that because i like this work of bob&#039;s, that you should go try to duplicate bob!!!...   quite the contrary...

i have very broad tastes in photography...you cannot get too broad for me....narrowness of vision is &quot;the enemy&quot; as far as i am concerned...so i love great sports photography, great natural history photography, great fashion photography, great landscape &quot;still life&quot;  photography, great conflict photography, greet street photography and great totally narcissistic introspective photography..

i can tell when someone has &quot;done it&quot;....and whenever any of us struggling insignificant souls can &quot;done it&quot;, then that person gets a &quot;high five&quot; from me....

so show me something....i am challenging you....be brave.....get rid of all of your inhibitions....go a bit crazy....

remember...i have a stake in your work..whatever my reputation, it is on the line....just like it is at every workshop i teach...that final student slide show i produce of student work seems like a very creative thing for me...but it is the work of other photographers, who i have &quot;coached&quot; and i step out of my shooting role and into the role of some kind of director or producer or some unknown title....but it feels good...

so, whatever i publish on this blog of your work is going to be a reflection on me as well as it is  obviously on you...

certainly, i am being very audacious in asking any of you to go out and shoot an essay for this blog...

now i can afford to pay you nothing....but i should, and i would if i could, and i will if i can....

so, we only have one thing going on here....trust....both ways....

those of you who have read this blog from the beginning have totally seen how this all evolved...it literally evolved on these pages....i never had any ideas like these before i started writing here....i suppose it is just some kind of logical extension of my workshop mentality and work...

this whole thing could end up being very very cool...something everyone in our business and outside really looked at...talked about...thought about...a new kind of forum...produced by the &quot;audience&quot; or the readers themselves...we create the &quot;experience&quot; and wait and  see who shows up..
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perhaps, however,  this whole thing could be a big bust...an embarrassment....a &quot;what the hell did harvey think he was doing?&quot; thing....there have been many of those...just ask my friends...

but, it is too late to stop now...i have &quot;stuck my foot in&quot;......so now my friends, please do the same....

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bob&#8230;.</p>
<p>just absolutely terrific work&#8230;.and the words to match&#8230;</p>
<p>hello all&#8230;</p>
<p>ok, everyone who is out there shooting right now for publication here&#8230; please listen&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>do what bob black does!!!</p>
<p>DO NOT COPY BOB BLACK, BUT DO WHAT BOB BLACK DOES&#8230;.</p>
<p>the man goes out there with only two things:<br />
heart and soul&#8230;..the pictures follow&#8230;..</p>
<p>i have never met bob black&#8230;previously  i was only vaguely aware of his work&#8230;.i only know him through this forum&#8230;</p>
<p>but i do know bob black&#8230;but only from seeing some of his work&#8230;.and the boy writes   some pretty damn cool words too&#8230;.</p>
<p>but, now i have another PLEASE for you&#8230;<br />
do not think that because i like this work of bob&#8217;s, that you should go try to duplicate bob!!!&#8230;   quite the contrary&#8230;</p>
<p>i have very broad tastes in photography&#8230;you cannot get too broad for me&#8230;.narrowness of vision is &#8220;the enemy&#8221; as far as i am concerned&#8230;so i love great sports photography, great natural history photography, great fashion photography, great landscape &#8220;still life&#8221;  photography, great conflict photography, greet street photography and great totally narcissistic introspective photography..</p>
<p>i can tell when someone has &#8220;done it&#8221;&#8230;.and whenever any of us struggling insignificant souls can &#8220;done it&#8221;, then that person gets a &#8220;high five&#8221; from me&#8230;.</p>
<p>so show me something&#8230;.i am challenging you&#8230;.be brave&#8230;..get rid of all of your inhibitions&#8230;.go a bit crazy&#8230;.</p>
<p>remember&#8230;i have a stake in your work..whatever my reputation, it is on the line&#8230;.just like it is at every workshop i teach&#8230;that final student slide show i produce of student work seems like a very creative thing for me&#8230;but it is the work of other photographers, who i have &#8220;coached&#8221; and i step out of my shooting role and into the role of some kind of director or producer or some unknown title&#8230;.but it feels good&#8230;</p>
<p>so, whatever i publish on this blog of your work is going to be a reflection on me as well as it is  obviously on you&#8230;</p>
<p>certainly, i am being very audacious in asking any of you to go out and shoot an essay for this blog&#8230;</p>
<p>now i can afford to pay you nothing&#8230;.but i should, and i would if i could, and i will if i can&#8230;.</p>
<p>so, we only have one thing going on here&#8230;.trust&#8230;.both ways&#8230;.</p>
<p>those of you who have read this blog from the beginning have totally seen how this all evolved&#8230;it literally evolved on these pages&#8230;.i never had any ideas like these before i started writing here&#8230;.i suppose it is just some kind of logical extension of my workshop mentality and work&#8230;</p>
<p>this whole thing could end up being very very cool&#8230;something everyone in our business and outside really looked at&#8230;talked about&#8230;thought about&#8230;a new kind of forum&#8230;produced by the &#8220;audience&#8221; or the readers themselves&#8230;we create the &#8220;experience&#8221; and wait and  see who shows up..<br />
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perhaps, however,  this whole thing could be a big bust&#8230;an embarrassment&#8230;.a &#8220;what the hell did harvey think he was doing?&#8221; thing&#8230;.there have been many of those&#8230;just ask my friends&#8230;</p>
<p>but, it is too late to stop now&#8230;i have &#8220;stuck my foot in&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;so now my friends, please do the same&#8230;.</p>
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		<description>rosemary...

i was thinking the exact same thing during my last days with the family...i suddenly realized that maybe one of the reasons i liked photography was because it seemed the only way to &quot;grab&quot; or hold on to those irreplaceable moments in life that are gone before we know it....even when we do know it!!
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<p>i was thinking the exact same thing during my last days with the family&#8230;i suddenly realized that maybe one of the reasons i liked photography was because it seemed the only way to &#8220;grab&#8221; or hold on to those irreplaceable moments in life that are gone before we know it&#8230;.even when we do know it!!</p>
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		<title>By: david alan harvey</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 06:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lee ..

yes, i am a bit the same....i tend to fall in love with the place where i am....i guess that is some sort of positive quality for the work i do...


lance....

i have never been to austin...just cannot seem to get invited!!




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<p>yes, i am a bit the same&#8230;.i tend to fall in love with the place where i am&#8230;.i guess that is some sort of positive quality for the work i do&#8230;</p>
<p>lance&#8230;.</p>
<p>i have never been to austin&#8230;just cannot seem to get invited!!</p>
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		<title>By: Arie</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 00:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>david, can you tell us more about Sam Abell, your colleage at the Geographic.  I like a lot his ideas about introducing layers to the picture, creating space...do you relate to his work?

Arie
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<p>Arie</p>
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		<title>By: Aga Luczakowska</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aga Luczakowska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 22:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob.. thank you... i found her (editor) on LS, and magazine, too :-)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob.. thank you&#8230; i found her (editor) on LS, and magazine, too :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Clive Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clive Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David
Just got the August NG,Mexico=lovely
To Ireland for August, see you in Perpignan.
Slainte
Clive
www.clive-evans.com
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Just got the August NG,Mexico=lovely<br />
To Ireland for August, see you in Perpignan.<br />
Slainte<br />
Clive<br />
<a href="http://www.clive-evans.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.clive-evans.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bobblack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobblack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aga! :))...thanks so much for the kind words: i&#039;ll pass them on to Marina too :))...the Turkey magazine is called FotoMat (i think), im not at my home computer, but when i get home, i&#039;ll look them up for you...i can send you the name of the editor who contacted me....send me a PM at LS :)))....the work i&#039;ll show in september will be more &quot;story-oriented&quot; that the Faces stuff: which i view more as a long series of poems about people ;)))

hugs,
bob

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aga! :))&#8230;thanks so much for the kind words: i&#8217;ll pass them on to Marina too :))&#8230;the Turkey magazine is called FotoMat (i think), im not at my home computer, but when i get home, i&#8217;ll look them up for you&#8230;i can send you the name of the editor who contacted me&#8230;.send me a PM at LS :)))&#8230;.the work i&#8217;ll show in september will be more &#8220;story-oriented&#8221; that the Faces stuff: which i view more as a long series of poems about people ;)))</p>
<p>hugs,<br />
bob</p>
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		<title>By: Arie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>david, have a safe trip back home. I am now very close to finalyzing my topic for our group experience.  i would appreciate your view on still versus video.  let me know if you want more details on bermuda (per my message above).


Arie
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<p>Arie</p>
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		<title>By: Aga Luczakowska</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aga Luczakowska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob ... you wrote about some Turkey Magazine? what is it? can u tell me plz? I will go to Turkey next month and have some (hihi.. 19)ideas for a storys.. i am looking for some place to publish that..
btw Bob.. i like a lot your and Marina&#039;s project :-)


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob &#8230; you wrote about some Turkey Magazine? what is it? can u tell me plz? I will go to Turkey next month and have some (hihi.. 19)ideas for a storys.. i am looking for some place to publish that..<br />
btw Bob.. i like a lot your and Marina&#8217;s project :-)</p>
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		<dc:creator>david alan harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 19:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello all....

i will be all day today in airports...back home in new york tonight and will try to answer as many of you as possible....

new postings also over the weekend giving all of you details about the Magnum free portfolio reviews in perpignan.....new workshops....and exactly how and where to upload photographs for this site.....

the beach seems far away at the moment!!!


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<p>i will be all day today in airports&#8230;back home in new york tonight and will try to answer as many of you as possible&#8230;.</p>
<p>new postings also over the weekend giving all of you details about the Magnum free portfolio reviews in perpignan&#8230;..new workshops&#8230;.and exactly how and where to upload photographs for this site&#8230;..</p>
<p>the beach seems far away at the moment!!!</p>
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