Comments on: re:your comments “art and commerce” http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/05/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/ burn is an online feature for emerging photographers worldwide. burn is curated by magnum photographer david alan harvey. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:17:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Andrew http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/05/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-23022 Andrew Mon, 14 May 2007 18:47:01 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2007/05/03/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/#comment-23022 david, Thanks for your advice. I am based in Slovakia so New York isn't too convenient at the moment. If I find myself there this year I will call. Best wishes with the show and book. I saw the multi-media on the NG website and enjoyed it from concept onwards, a very human story. Best Andrew david,

Thanks for your advice. I am based in Slovakia so New York isn’t too convenient at the moment. If I find myself there this year I will call.

Best wishes with the show and book. I saw the multi-media on the NG website and enjoyed it from concept onwards, a very human story.

Best Andrew

]]> By: davidalanharvey http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/05/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-23023 davidalanharvey Sun, 13 May 2007 21:37:03 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2007/05/03/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/#comment-23023 andrew.... publishing your long term project and connecting with editors is exactly the work i do in workshops....and i view emerging photogs work in my new york loft all the time too...it is just a matter of timing and my time.... if you are in the new york area, please stop by...you can call my studio manager, marie 718 388-5799 to make an appointment....i will say that now i am so so busy trying to get my show up and book published, but if you are persistent, i am sure you will get in the door... best, david andrew….

publishing your long term project and connecting with editors is exactly the work i do in workshops….and i view emerging photogs work in my new york loft all the time too…it is just a matter of timing and my time….

if you are in the new york area, please stop by…you can call my studio manager, marie 718 388-5799 to make an appointment….i will say that now i am so so busy trying to get my show up and book published, but if you are persistent, i am sure you will get in the door…

best, david

]]> By: davidalanharvey http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/05/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-23024 davidalanharvey Sun, 13 May 2007 21:31:43 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2007/05/03/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/#comment-23024 patricia... there is the most interesting story about my stolen camera in brazil....one year after the camera was stolen, as you saw in the documentary, i went back to that same neighborhood by total coincidence to follow a man who was doing good things in that favella....he saw me working with my camera which was just like the one that had been stolen...he said "do you always use a camera like that?"...i said yes, always... he said " well, we "found" a camera just like that last year" ... i was amazed....i did not say more...two days later the camera came back to me by way of a mutual friend...i did not ask any questions, but only thanked them for "finding" my camera...the film was still in it that i had shot!!!! it was a pretty beat up camera (which may be why it had no "market value"), but it was my favorite and it was so nice to have it returned one year later!!!! only too bad THAT story was not in the film.... david patricia…

there is the most interesting story about my stolen camera in brazil….one year after the camera was stolen, as you saw in the documentary, i went back to that same neighborhood by total coincidence to follow a man who was doing good things in that favella….he saw me working with my camera which was just like the one that had been stolen…he said “do you always use a camera like that?”…i said yes, always… he said ” well, we “found” a camera just like that last year” … i was amazed….i did not say more…two days later the camera came back to me by way of a mutual friend…i did not ask any questions, but only thanked them for “finding” my camera…the film was still in it that i had shot!!!! it was a pretty beat up camera (which may be why it had no “market value”), but it was my favorite and it was so nice to have it returned one year later!!!! only too bad THAT story was not in the film….

david

]]> By: davidalanharvey http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/05/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-23025 davidalanharvey Sun, 13 May 2007 21:23:08 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2007/05/03/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/#comment-23025 edgard... yes, i would love to see the images you made in madrid....just send by e-mail i suppose.... by the way, i do like efti very much...truly nice people who run that program...and most of them agree with me that it is a shame to have this artificial separation between the art and photojournalism crowd.... saludos, david edgard…

yes, i would love to see the images you made in madrid….just send by e-mail i suppose….

by the way, i do like efti very much…truly nice people who run that program…and most of them agree with me that it is a shame to have this artificial separation between the art and photojournalism crowd….

saludos, david

]]> By: davidalanharvey http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/05/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-23026 davidalanharvey Sun, 13 May 2007 21:20:14 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2007/05/03/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/#comment-23026 sean.... very nice work from china!!! several very strong images.... i am so pleased to see you moving forward sean....do you have a book in mind??? in any case, keep it up....i look forward to seeing more... cheers, david sean….

very nice work from china!!! several very strong images…. i am so pleased to see you moving forward sean….do you have a book in mind??? in any case, keep it up….i look forward to seeing more…

cheers, david

]]> By: davidalanharvey http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/05/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-23027 davidalanharvey Sun, 13 May 2007 21:17:33 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2007/05/03/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/#comment-23027 cathy...so pleased you met alex and rebecca...terrific photographers, terrific people AND and they have a terrific relationship!!! cathy…so pleased you met alex and rebecca…terrific photographers, terrific people AND and they have a terrific relationship!!!

]]> By: Andrew http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/05/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-23028 Andrew Mon, 07 May 2007 18:45:49 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2007/05/03/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/#comment-23028 Hi David, Just discovered your Blog and I would like to say thanks for the breath of fresh air. If you have a chance I would greatly appreciate your advice regarding publishing my longterm project and connecting positively with picture editors. Best wishes, Andrew Hi David,

Just discovered your Blog and I would like to say thanks for the breath of fresh air.

If you have a chance I would greatly appreciate your advice regarding publishing my longterm project and connecting positively with picture editors.

Best wishes,

Andrew

]]> By: patricia http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/05/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-23029 patricia Mon, 07 May 2007 03:35:11 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2007/05/03/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/#comment-23029 Hi David. I am from brazil and I watched a documentary (program) in national geografic and i loved. I'm sorry for your stolen camera. I intend to continue following your work, Forever, forever. congrats. bye Patricia ( now is 20:33 - sunday - in brazil) Hi David. I am from brazil and I watched a documentary (program) in national geografic and i loved. I’m sorry for your stolen camera. I intend to continue following your work, Forever, forever. congrats. bye Patricia ( now is 20:33 – sunday – in brazil)

]]> By: Edgard Marques http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/05/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-23030 Edgard Marques Sat, 05 May 2007 19:12:38 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2007/05/03/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/#comment-23030 Hi, Dave. First of it all: it's been such a very interesting week we've got here in Madrid. Just for you to know, i'm the big brazilian guy at EFTI's night class. Well, i'm here to say that i'm happy that our discussion about the artificial separation between "art" and "journalism" photographers that happens here have become subject of debate at your blog. And i'm also happy of seeing that many other photographers are struggling -- just like me -- to establish a strong connection between their work and whatever gives them inspiration. Between art and commerce. Cheers. I'm already a new fan of your road trips. P.S. I've got some shots of you "at work" the last day of classes, during and after the presentation. Can i send you? Hi, Dave. First of it all: it’s been such a very interesting week we’ve got here in Madrid. Just for you to know, i’m the big brazilian guy at EFTI’s night class. Well, i’m here to say that i’m happy that our discussion about the artificial separation between “art” and “journalism” photographers that happens here have become subject of debate at your blog.
And i’m also happy of seeing that many other photographers are struggling — just like me — to establish a strong connection between their work and whatever gives them inspiration. Between art and commerce. Cheers. I’m already a new fan of your road trips.
P.S. I’ve got some shots of you “at work” the last day of classes, during and after the presentation. Can i send you?

]]> By: Sean http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/05/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-23031 Sean Sat, 05 May 2007 17:05:10 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2007/05/03/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/#comment-23031 Hi David, PJG is one of the most interesting and inspiring people I have ever met. In the short time I have known him, his colourful and descriptive stories are indeed told in a way only he, as a Welshman can! Sorry to say I won't be in London when you're there. Have actually moved to live in Beijing. Moved here 9 months ago and don't make it back to the UK as often as I'd like. I doubt you remember, but I mentioned this to you as my dream over those beers in Lisbon. Well, I gave myself my dream posting and moved here. It's going well. I keep your advice, and that of PJG and others from my time at Magnum, with me. I'd appreciate your thoughts on a new story I recently did here in China. It's entitled 'Bethel-China's Blind Orphans'. You can see it at http://www.gallagher-photo.com Index>China>Bethel All the best David, Sean Hi David,

PJG is one of the most interesting and inspiring people I have ever met. In the short time I have known him, his colourful and descriptive stories are indeed told in a way only he, as a Welshman can!

Sorry to say I won’t be in London when you’re there. Have actually moved to live in Beijing. Moved here 9 months ago and don’t make it back to the UK as often as I’d like. I doubt you remember, but I mentioned this to you as my dream over those beers in Lisbon. Well, I gave myself my dream posting and moved here. It’s going well. I keep your advice, and that of PJG and others from my time at Magnum, with me.

I’d appreciate your thoughts on a new story I recently did here in China. It’s entitled ‘Bethel-China’s Blind Orphans’. You can see it at http://www.gallagher-photo.com Index>China>Bethel

All the best David,
Sean

]]> By: Rafal Pruszynski (jinju) http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/05/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-23032 Rafal Pruszynski (jinju) Sat, 05 May 2007 14:10:14 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2007/05/03/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/#comment-23032 David, Im in Seoul:) You are welcome to come, I actually think you were planning to come in summer....if you do, it will be the high of the season for me to meet you. David,

Im in Seoul:) You are welcome to come, I actually think you were planning to come in summer….if you do, it will be the high of the season for me to meet you.

]]> By: Gunnar Mjaugedal http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/05/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-23033 Gunnar Mjaugedal Sat, 05 May 2007 12:54:40 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2007/05/03/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/#comment-23033 Just read this in a book and try my best to translate. "The camera cant compete whit the paintings, so long as It cant be used in heaven or hell" Edvard Munch When I read that (maybe the translation is not good) I think that the best pictures are just there, heaven or hell? They got something, energy... nerve... Gunnar Mjaugedal Just read this in a book and try my best to translate.
“The camera cant compete whit the paintings, so long as It cant be used in heaven or hell” Edvard Munch

When I read that (maybe the translation is not good) I think that the best pictures are just there, heaven or hell? They got something, energy… nerve…

Gunnar Mjaugedal

]]> By: Martin http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/05/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-23034 Martin Sat, 05 May 2007 12:36:31 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2007/05/03/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/#comment-23034 David It is great when I can make you laugh! We should laugh! Life is serious, I’m serious, photography is serious, you are serious, to many serious thing in one sentence! If I stay serious I will be boring, someday… I can not find any word “something what is not selling very good”. How you call that? I should buy bigger dictionary… I keep learning English, or rather I keep fighting… No, We not know each other personally, but I think we understood each other. Specific communication. Good day… Martin David

It is great when I can make you laugh! We should laugh! Life is serious, I’m serious, photography is serious, you are serious, to many serious thing in one sentence!
If I stay serious I will be boring, someday…

I can not find any word “something what is not selling very good”. How you call that? I should buy bigger dictionary…
I keep learning English, or rather I keep fighting…

No, We not know each other personally, but I think we understood each other. Specific communication.

Good day…

Martin

]]> By: david alan harvey http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/05/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-23035 david alan harvey Sat, 05 May 2007 12:18:59 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2007/05/03/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/#comment-23035 cat woman....i hope you will like the show tonight....me gusta mucho tus fotos!! besos, david cat woman….i hope you will like the show tonight….me gusta mucho tus fotos!! besos, david

]]> By: david alan harvey http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/05/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-23036 david alan harvey Sat, 05 May 2007 12:14:09 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2007/05/03/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/#comment-23036 Aga, Rafal and Martin... well, obviously i have to come to Poland sometime soon to meet all of you...but, i think rafal is actually in tokyo..is that correct?? aga, you break my heart when you write...and when i write any article about anything, please understand that it is only from my personal perspective...i do realize that life for a photographer in Poland is more difficult perhaps than for some others....but, i also know that great photographers have emerged from societies where things were impossible or very difficult...i have not looked to see if you have a link for your work, but i will do so...maybe i will be able to help you think a bit better after i see what you do.... martin, you make me laugh out loud sometimes!! i like the word "unsells" even though i have never read it before!!! you make me laugh, but i know very well by now that you are a serious person and i do take you seriously....and you are a great thinker and sometimes totally creative by inventing new words!!! do all of you know each other personally?? anyway, a big hug to my Polish friends.... cheers, david Aga, Rafal and Martin…

well, obviously i have to come to Poland sometime soon to meet all of you…but, i think rafal is actually in tokyo..is that correct??

aga, you break my heart when you write…and when i write any article about anything, please understand that it is only from my personal perspective…i do realize that life for a photographer in Poland is more difficult perhaps than for some others….but, i also know that great photographers have emerged from societies where things were impossible or very difficult…i have not looked to see if you have a link for your work, but i will do so…maybe i will be able to help you think a bit better after i see what you do….

martin, you make me laugh out loud sometimes!! i like the word “unsells” even though i have never read it before!!! you make me laugh, but i know very well by now that you are a serious person and i do take you seriously….and you are a great thinker and sometimes totally creative by inventing new words!!!

do all of you know each other personally?? anyway, a big hug to my Polish friends….

cheers, david

]]> By: david alan harvey http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/05/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-23037 david alan harvey Sat, 05 May 2007 12:02:55 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2007/05/03/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/#comment-23037 kelly... yes, this is a whole discussion to have....and that is why i have put a "family/friends" separate blog here just to go into these issues....i have barely started because this is a key element for me...dig a bit into that archive, since there will be a few hints for you already...but i do plan articles on both ¨relationships" and family support soonest.... many thanks for your comment....david kelly…

yes, this is a whole discussion to have….and that is why i have put a “family/friends” separate blog here just to go into these issues….i have barely started because this is a key element for me…dig a bit into that archive, since there will be a few hints for you already…but i do plan articles on both ¨relationships” and family support soonest….

many thanks for your comment….david

]]> By: martin http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/05/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-23038 martin Sat, 05 May 2007 11:57:54 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2007/05/03/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/#comment-23038 David... Rafal... Aga... For me the best way is doing everything different than the others photographers. If I can not earn money with photography (sometimes I can, I pray for more, and always I give them beautiful and nice photos ) I will doing this for Satisfaction and Ambition . I will make my photography more and more unsells! (can I write that? Unsells?) Even if my photography will ugly and simply, dark and shaken. Even if I must using cheap film from hypermarket (it gives beautiful results sometimes, colorless in dark). In some way it is freedom. Am I right? I think I have to…. Freedom? Martin David… Rafal… Aga…

For me the best way is doing everything different than the others photographers. If I can not earn money with photography (sometimes I can, I pray for more, and always I give them beautiful and nice photos ) I will doing this for Satisfaction and Ambition . I will make my photography more and more unsells! (can I write that? Unsells?) Even if my photography will ugly and simply, dark and shaken. Even if I must using cheap film from hypermarket (it gives beautiful results sometimes, colorless in dark).
In some way it is freedom. Am I right? I think I have to….

Freedom?

Martin

]]> By: david alan harvey http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/05/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-23039 david alan harvey Sat, 05 May 2007 11:57:40 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2007/05/03/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/#comment-23039 carlos.. yes, jpeg magazine is a very cool new magazine....i have only seen two hard copy issues, and have looked on-line a few times, but my firsst impressions are good...i will look some more... david carlos..

yes, jpeg magazine is a very cool new magazine….i have only seen two hard copy issues, and have looked on-line a few times, but my firsst impressions are good…i will look some more…

david

]]> By: david alan harvey http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/05/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-23040 david alan harvey Sat, 05 May 2007 11:57:32 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2007/05/03/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/#comment-23040 carlos.. yes, jpeg magazine is a very cool new magazine....i have only seen two hard copy issues, and have looked on-line a few times, but my firsst impressions are good...i will look some more... david carlos..

yes, jpeg magazine is a very cool new magazine….i have only seen two hard copy issues, and have looked on-line a few times, but my firsst impressions are good…i will look some more…

david

]]> By: david alan harvey http://www.burnmagazine.org/dialogue/2007/05/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-23041 david alan harvey Sat, 05 May 2007 11:52:52 +0000 http://s57354.gridserver.com/2007/05/03/reyour-comments-art-and-commerce/#comment-23041 hi sean... philip jones griffiths has always been able to say things in a very special way...usually with wales wit.. by the way, are you in london?? i am coming on tuesday if you are around... cheers, david hi sean…

philip jones griffiths has always been able to say things in a very special way…usually with wales wit..

by the way, are you in london?? i am coming on tuesday if you are around…

cheers, david

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